The Four Horsemans' Voyage Back To Earth

Something hit me recently when looking at all the latest disasters. Seems like everyone is going nuts.
And then someone mentionned yesterday the four horsemans on this topic - www.abovetopsecret.com...
which talk about the four comets we had in the sky on Oct. 30 2013 and that made me think about.
Now I'm absolutely not saying this is related in any way with a doom porn theory, simply stating the fact it randomly made me question myself about the End-Time Prophecy. Then I started thinking about the Four Horseman's order of appearance and the consequences attached to it.

When you look at it, and look at what we have been going through since the last 20 years, it kind of feels very disturbing.

War, food contamination, famine, lies, deception.
Dangerous mix.

The four horsemen of the Apocalypse are described in Revelation chapter 6, verses 1-8. The four horsemen are symbolic descriptions of different events which will take place in the end times. The first horseman of the Apocalypse is mentioned in Revelation 6:2: “I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.” This first horseman likely refers to the Antichrist, who will be given authority and will conquer all who oppose him. The antichrist is the false imitator of the true Christ, who will also return on a white horse (Revelation 19:11-16).

The second horseman of the Apocalypse appears in Revelation 6:4, “Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a large sword.” The second horseman refers to terrible warfare that will break out in the end times. The third horseman is described in Revelation 6:5-6, “...and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, ‘A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!’” The third horseman of the Apocalypse refers to a great famine that will take place, likely as a result of the wars from the second horseman.

The fourth horseman is mentioned in Revelation 6:8, “I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.” The fourth horseman of the Apocalypse is symbolic of death and devastation. It seems to be a combination of the previous horsemen. The fourth horseman of the Apocalypse will bring further warfare and terrible famines along with awful plagues and diseases. What is most amazing, or perhaps terrifying, is that the four horsemen of the Apocalypse are just “precursors” of even worse judgments that come later in the tribulation (Revelation chapters 8–9 and 16).

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Now you think about the Fukushima disaster and the masive methane spewing out of the Artic as we speak, which are supposedly threatening our ecosystem and food supply, and you have a scary picture and hardful realization.
Have we already reached step #3?

I believe whole heartedly in Revelations. I do think we are living in the "end times" but I think we have been living in those times since the beginning. We may very well be here for thousands more years. Who knows? You do have an interesting take on the horsemen and I would not be surprised if some of them had not "ridden out" at this point.

I found these two videos interesting. Take them with a grain of salt as you would with any video from youtube.

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Thanks buddy, I'll look at these vids when able to.

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You seem to be a reasonable person by your reply.My suggestion is to not buy into this doom and gloom porn at all(not even a bit).It is all 100% false.The book of Revelation has zero to do with events in history called the end times .The book of Revelation is metaphorical and none of it is predictions or prophecies of past present or future historical events.Some people only see what they want to see, and they want to see doom and gloom drama.I am not judging them my suggestion is to stay away from them or their drama will rain hail stones on your life.Yes the world has gone a bit nuts....it's best not to contribute any more from the peanut gallery.

Rex282
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You seem to be a reasonable person by your reply.My suggestion is to not buy into this doom and gloom porn at all(not even a bit).It is all 100% false.The book of Revelation has zero to do with events in history called the end times .The book of Revelation is metaphorical and none of it is predictions or prophecies of past present or future historical events.Some people only see what they want to see, and they want to see doom and gloom drama.I am not judging them my suggestion is to stay away from them or their drama will rain hail stones on your life.Yes the world has gone a bit nuts....it's best not to contribute any more from the peanut gallery.

Well, it all depends on how you see it m8. Why wouldn't it be possible for mankind to have a glimpse at some of his possible futures?

I strongly believe you can see the future in some dreams and self-induced relaxation state. So if you believe it is possible, you can easily think about the possibility life itselfs could warn his own creation about potential threats, life-threatening one, or should I say, Mass-Extinction Threatening one.

What makes you think that if clairvoyance is possible, it wouldn't be used for the main goal of our existence:

S U R V I V A L

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I was under the impression that every so often humankind experiences some kind of anti-Christ phenomenon. There have been three so far - Napoleon, Hitler and I have no idea who the other was, I forget at the moment. I believe the fourth one is Obama, although he gets assassinated before the war begins.

Just because someone is an Anti-Christ doesn't mean that they are necessarily "evil." It just means that they start a movement that goes against the Church, and that the movement is followed as a religion with them as the figurehead instead of God. That's why I call it a phenomenon.

In Obama's case, he did have a lot of good ideas for bettering mankind, but he might not be able to follow through with them, and if he conveniently gets assassinated at some point, it could start a war.

Obama is definitely, in my opinion, an Anti-Christ figure. He matches up on the Charisma. He matches up on the Fanfare. He matches up on the devoted followers who are not always keen to listen to logic. He is highly trained in N.L.P. and his motives do not register on my normally over-sensitive body language meter.

That doesn't mean his agenda is bad, it just means it is different - although he could be working for someone else who is using him to do something that he has no idea about. Kind of like the Devil turning on you type of thing.

darkbake
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I was under the impression that every so often humankind experiences some kind of anti-Christ phenomenon. There have been three so far - Napoleon, Hitler and I have no idea who the other was, I forget at the moment. I believe the fourth one is Obama, although he gets assassinated before the war begins.

You're correct.It is a phenomenon...that is false.Antichrist is never mentioned in the book of Revelations yet many extrapolate the Antichrist to be the beast(another false interpretation).The apostle John used antichrist in his letters and is the only one to use the word antichrist in the scriptures.In Greek (the language it was written ) anti means in place of..christ is the Greek christos in Hebrew it's mashiach(messiah) which means anointed..empowered by God.

antichrist=in place of the anointed.

It is not "a" person such as the characters above.It is describing a "characteristic" of people.It is a term John used to describe those that by their traditions of men (religion) accounted them selves as the ambassadors of God but weren't.John understood this very well since he was an ambassador.He knew "the Christ" Yahoshua very very well and knew when others were not anointed and "sent by God" (the meaning of apostles).

Yahoshua described antichrist in slightly different terms also in this scriptures...

"For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.".

That is in all 3 of the synoptic Gospels.(Matthew,Luke and Mark).

There is a "group" of "many" that say they are "Christ"..it doesn't take much to figure out who they are., and as Yahoshua said are deceiving many.There is no "Antichrist" who is possessed by satan /lucifer(another devious religious extrapolation by antichrist) who will rule the world and cause it's end.

There are MANY that are in the world today acting in the spirit of antichrist deceiving many.

So are you saying Obama is the 3rd horseman man because he's Black?

St0rD

Rex282
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You seem to be a reasonable person by your reply.My suggestion is to not buy into this doom and gloom porn at all(not even a bit).It is all 100% false.The book of Revelation has zero to do with events in history called the end times .The book of Revelation is metaphorical and none of it is predictions or prophecies of past present or future historical events.Some people only see what they want to see, and they want to see doom and gloom drama.I am not judging them my suggestion is to stay away from them or their drama will rain hail stones on your life.Yes the world has gone a bit nuts....it's best not to contribute any more from the peanut gallery.

Well, it all depends on how you see it m8. Why wouldn't it be possible for mankind to have a glimpse at some of his possible futures?

I strongly believe you can see the future in some dreams and self-induced relaxation state. So if you believe it is possible, you can easily think about the possibility life itselfs could warn his own creation about potential threats, life-threatening one, or should I say, Mass-Extinction Threatening one.

What makes you think that if clairvoyance is possible, it wouldn't be used for the main goal of our existence:

S U R V I V A L

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The word TRUTH in Hebrew is Aleph (Strength) Mem (Water) Tav (Two Crossed Sticks). On either side of water (Baptism / Involution / Immersion of the Soul into Reality), you have Aleph (Alpha - First letter of Hebrew) and Tav (Omega - Last Letter). Mem is the middle letter, but because there are 22 letters, there must be two middle letters. Lamed is the pictograph of the Shepherd's Crook.

Revelation 1

Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits[a] before his throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.

To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.

7 “Look, he is coming with the clouds,”
and “every eye will see him,
even those who pierced him”;
and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.”[c]
So shall it be! Amen.
8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Let me break this down. Jesus IS, Was and Is to Come. He is the faithful witness, the firstborn (Adam) from the dead (Last Adam) and the ruler of the Kings of the Earth.

The word cloud is a covering of evil on the land. See this Tread: LINK. When it says he comes in the clouds, it is a reference to the evil that has fallen over this land, namely the Genesis 6 beings that are fallen Angels. When he comes in the clouds, he is coming in our confusion to bring enlightenment. Every eye will see him. How is this possible? Water baptism is being born again and resurrected from the dead. In other words, we are brought back from the grave to live again.

When it says that "Those who pierced Him" would see Him return, it is only possible for them to be here because of baptism. We are ALL here from that process. We are the first resurrection. All 7 billion souls are here to see it happen. 14 billion eyeballs.

He then Says AMEN. AMN is the word TRUE in Hebrew. For the Gentiles, AMN is Lamb. We get these words from AMN.

AMN - Lamb
AMNi - River of life (Jordan / Baptism)
AMNio - Bowl catching the sacrifice of the lamb
AMNion - Sac in the mother's womb holding the waters of life
AMNiotic Fluid - Waters of life
AMNesia - Forgetting why you are here
AMNesty - Forgiveness from Baptism / Rising to new life / Involution and Evolution
dAMNation - Those who have their Lamb taken

When he says He is the Alpha and Omega, he is telling us that on either side of the waters of life (MEM), He is the beginning and end of the process. Revelation is the end of the process. Genesis is the beginning.

Revelation 20

20 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years

Adam to Abraham is 2000 years, or 2 days. This is the age of the Father.

Issac to Jesus is 2 Days and the age of the Son.

Jesus to today is 2 Days and the age when the Spirit in man rises.

After six days, the end comes and 1000 years of peace happen.

Epistle of Barnabas

Barnabas 15:3
Of the Sabbath He speaketh in the beginning of the creation; And
God made the works of His hands in six days, and He ended on the
seventh day, and rested on it, and He hallowed it.

Barnabas 15:4
Give heed, children, what this meaneth; He ended in six days. He
meaneth this, that in six thousand years the Lord shall bring all
things to an end; for the day with Him signifyeth a thousand years;
and this He himself beareth me witness, saying; Behold, the day of
the Lord shall be as a thousand years. Therefore, children, in six
days, that is in six thousand years, everything shall come to an end.

Is it true? AMEN!

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There were four comets?
I missed that, I would have gone out to watch them if I had known.

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Those four horsemen do apply throughout the ages. Look at the famine in Ethiopia, that was long lasting and there were many civil wars in Africa.

As Revelation begins with this "this is the Revelation of Jesus Christ" meaning this is how Jesus was revealed as He is and not as He will be. Then it goes on to say "things that must shortly come to pass". The four horsemen have been travelling throughout the world since then. Look at the Black Plague, it took 1/3 of the population of Europe. Time is cyclical, meaning if an event happened previously, it will happen again.

If we look at it like this, it shows a natural progression of events. The Bible does speak in patterns, so this would apply also to Revelation.

1: White Horse of Conquest
2: Red Horse taking peace from the world
3: Black Horse scale of economics
4: Pale Horse of death

If you look at the natural progression, then you see that the desire for conquest that drives people to take peace from the earth by wars, then control the economic system, thereby destroying populations.

This pattern has been repeated over and over throughout history and will continue until the end. Once you have been conquered as a people, then those who have brought war to you to conquer you, dictate the natural resources and food supply, and through this, death comes.

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When you look at it, and look at what we have been going through since the last 20 years, it kind of feels very disturbing.

War, food contamination, famine, lies, deception.
Dangerous mix.

Crack open a history book, that's been going on longer than 20 years. It's been going on since a man first learned he could pick up a rock and break open another man's cocanut.

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It happened, but not on a scale this big.

War? Yes, there were wars, but not global wars like we have today.

Food contamination? I can't see how they could have their food as poisoned as we have today. Please enlight me on this if you have any kind of informations I don't have. GMOs and pestidicide have contaminated food on a planetary scale. A gold medal for this, mankind.

Famine? I agree that every civilizations had their load of famines, it's part of life.

Lies/deceptions? Of course they had lies and deception, but today with MSM and the technology, these lies are contaminating almost everyone on the planet.

Bottom line, yes everything I mentionned in the OP has already happened at least once in the history, but is has never reached a point where it was so big and problematic.

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The Black Death? More than half the population of Europe disappeared. Oh i'll grant you that things have been building up with the invention of modern weapons and chemical warfare, but for the last few thousand years there were some battles alone that have killed over 100,000 men, not wars just 1 battle back then could do that, especially when the Roman's got busy. When the Roman's destroyed Jerusalem they killed everyone in the city roughly 150,000, and across Judea and into Samaria they killed or enslaved another 600,000 jews in a matter of weeks. Yes the World Wars we've had were bad, but it's been bad all across history. Some of those ancient battles saw so many dead the corpses were left out in the open because there weren't enough people left alive to dig graves or gather the bodies to burn.