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rickymouse
This is a green comet, not blue. If the Hopi were color blind it might make sense.
There is a lot of good prophesy in the Hopi writings, but we often over evaluate the writings. The thunder and guns is probably a good correlation and so are the wheels. Being that some of these Indians came from Europe and parts of that continent long ago I think they knew of these things and passed them on through traditional songs and sayings. The wheel was invented long before the chariots. Our first recorded use of gunpowder was from areas of what is now china, remember that that is the first evidence of it's use, it could have had roots long before that. The lack of communication and sharing of technology and understanding could have cloaked the use of gunpowder for thousands of years by some cultures.
What I am trying to say is that the Hopi could have come here on ships with a dragon head shaped bow possibly five thousand years ago. We do not know. Something could have happened where this history was lost in the writings on the other continents, or maybe nothing was recorded purposely so that the greedy would not go to America and acquire their own goods. Either way, lack of evidence on something like how the Indians got here in the first place is not a good way of evaluating their existence here with knowledge of different cultural practices of the east.
Science needs proof before it can say something is real. Until they get that proof than it is unproven, that does not mean it is not real. Mankind has gone through a lot over the last two thousand or more years and a lot of the writings of past civilizations were destroyed to change the conquered people to a new way of life. This tactic of conditioning seems to have been commonplace throughout much of the world. Also plagues and sickness killed a lot of people and the intelligent alchemists were killed many times because their practices were making things worse...and them richer.
People have sought foods that dope themselves up so they could enjoy life for thousands of years. The people who controlled the psychotropic foods and spices became very powerful and set policies to control people. Beer and wine became very popular in the world many times in history.
If you compare the Hopi history to possible situations in the past you can find a possible origination for the knowledge and sayings. These will be hard to prove because evidence has been destroyed that would substantiate it. The people studying archeology a couple of hundred years ago would often destroy any evidence that did not comply with their learned knowledge. It is getting better nowadays but there is still some discounting of evidence going on because it does not fit consensus of the present beliefs.
This comet appears to be green, unless it turns blue and bright, it probably won't be kachina. The great Kachina is a white man with distinguishable features who takes off a mask to reveal his nature. It could even be a woman. I have read a lot of these Indian writings and they all have some base in my mind but interpretation is hard because people had different ways long ago, they thought a lot different than we do today. What most people prized a couple of thousand years ago we think of as junk today.
Xcalibur254
reply to post by LittleBlackEagle
going back in time you will find the only non native people who had written of us that were accurate, lived with us for many years, they became one of us in heart, they became like family.
Going back in time you will also find that the three people who originally reported on this "prophecy" were all white men who didn't spend an extended period of time with the Hopi. So according to your own words what has been written about this "prophecy" is not accurate. So then why do you believe it to be true?
DeadSeraph
reply to post by grindhouzer
How do you get a comet from "dwelling place"? Seems like a bit of a stretch to me.
FlyersFan
The 9th Stage of the Hopi Prophecy - Blue Star Kachina/Comet ISON
Nope. The 'prophecy' is that it is a dwelling place in the heavens that falls. The comet isn't a 'dwelling place'. If this was real prophecy, then it was fulfilled when Space Lab fell or when the Space Shuttle blew up on entry. But a comet doesn't fill the 'dwelling place' prophecy.
Hmmm ISON... I Said Oneness Now... For Those Of ISRAEL... The Name ISRAEL... I Said Reveal Abbas Everlasting Light... For those that see God... The Name JESUS... Jerusalem Exiting Slavery Under Salvation... This World The First Circle Of Ezekiel and his wheel... For the ORBS That Dwell In The Inner Circle Of Jesus Christ... The Word ORBS... Only Righteous Brothers Spared... As in the Days Of NOAH before his Name was changed to NOACH... No Outcasts Allowed Here... Now Only Abbas Children's Here and again the giants will be cleansed... By The Fire And Brimstone just as written...
Hmmm ISON... I Said Oneness Now... For Those Of ISRAEL... The Name ISRAEL... I Said Reveal Abbas Everlasting Light... For those that see God... The Name JESUS... Jerusalem Exiting Slavery Under Salvation... This World The First Circle Of Ezekiel and his wheel... For the ORBS That Dwell In The Inner Circle Of Jesus Christ... The Word ORBS... Only Righteous Brothers Spared... As in the Days Of NOAH before his Name was changed to NOACH... No Outcasts Allowed Here... Now Only Abbas Children's Here and again the giants will be cleansed... By The Fire And Brimstone just as written...
Chamberf=6
Just wondering, who flags a thread about a HOAX prophecy?
Hopi Nation spokesmen strongly deny there are any further prophecies to be shared with outsiders
DeadSeraph
reply to post by grindhouzer
How do you get a comet from "dwelling place"? Seems like a bit of a stretch to me.
Chamberf=6
reply to post by TucoTheRat
So the fact that a man admitted to creating the Blue Star prophesy and that it was a fraud doesn't matter?
Did you miss all those links saying that?edit on 11/14/2013 by Chamberf=6 because: (no reason given)