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Bleeeeep
reply to post by MystikMushroom
I think you're right. Virus spreading through non-network devices is just out there. The only explanation is someone/something has figured out how to, I don't know, send electromagnetic or sound wave virus? It's so crazy to even think of that.
If real, it's some alien/AI/deep conspiracy stuff.
winofiend
reply to post by StargateSG7
Well for a start ms-dos 7 is win95.
You'd want 6.22 for a true dos environment.
And you would be very hard pressed to find an ndis driver to talk to a modern nic that operates in a dos environment. Other than that, using debug to scan the memory would be good, if anyone here knew how to do it. Not sure there are many people who even know what debug was, or that you used to have to low loevel format a hard drive with it. but I could be wrong. I ususaly am.
still..
Why do all this hard work when it's as simple as "hey kids, install itunes!!"
Sounds good and stuff, that's for sure!!
JBA2848
People seem to think all the hacking has to be done in a certain way. Well ISO 9001 your normal hacker standard is long ways off from the ISO 27001 the NSA uses. Big difference in numbers there. And I would say there is a big difference in the way they could hack a machine. Just look at what the NSA and other world governments that work with them can do. Stars Duqu Flame Gauss Stuxnet and the list goes on. And since those have been found I am sure they have busy moving to the next level. Just remember those I listed all had a specific country tied to each one. Does that mean they have one for every country? That is a lot of viruses that nobody has ever heard about.
Gemwolf
Sigh. I don't even know where to begin...
As as been said (and confirmed) - it would be impossible to infect a machine with sound waves. Complete and utter crock. The magic "airgap" infection? LoLoLoLoLoL.
Enough people explained why, so I'll move along.
Anyone that has spent 5 minutes in front of a computer and tried to install new hardware or software will tell you the frustration of "compatibility". There are endless compatibility issues just between different PC platforms. Trying to get something to work on Mac, PC and Linux!? Good luck.
Or let's put it this way: Currently there are (roughly) 34 different operating systems in use. Now multiply that with the amount of different CMOS/ROM/VRAM/whatever you feel like calling it and also the different BIOS versions. Now multiply that with the amount of anti-virus and anti-malware software packages and you have a pretty big variation on possible device configurations....
No, it's not impossible to have a piece of code that would be able to understand all platforms, bypass all security measures and be able to distribute itself and take control of said hardware... But if you were able to write the code to something like that, you would be a very, very rich man/woman.
Well, that's my opinons anyway.
All that said. I'm not sure what to make of the concept in general. I have spent thousands of hours in front of computers and I have seen some very weird, and technically "impossible" behavior from both software and hardware. I've seen enough to have a tiny bit of believe in "the ghost in the machine" or some sort of "self-awareness-intelligence" (for lack of better word). Some computers have personalities. Some computers are not bound by the rules of 1's and 0's.
So, the idea of something completely "new" and "impossible" like described in the article is not completely beyond my believe. If it's real, I'll bet my hat that it's not man-made.
"Good day. Welcome to Skynet."
"Hallo?! HAL 9000? Is that you?"
PrinceDreamer
I work in IT, including security and I call BS on this for so many reasons, but there is one big tell...
He says he noticed this happening 3 years ago, if a virus was so powerful it could transmit through the air, could restore its self to a fresh install, then after 3 years near enough every PC in the world would be infected and not just the ones in his lab. Nothing could stop it, however only his PC's show any of these symptoms, hmmm, perhaps what would be the greatest coder in the world has it in for him only...
Nope don't believe it for one minute
PrinceDreamer
I work in IT, including security and I call BS on this for so many reasons, but there is one big tell...
He says he noticed this happening 3 years ago, if a virus was so powerful it could transmit through the air, could restore its self to a fresh install, then after 3 years near enough every PC in the world would be infected and not just the ones in his lab. Nothing could stop it, however only his PC's show any of these symptoms, hmmm, perhaps what would be the greatest coder in the world has it in for him only...
Nope don't believe it for one minute