***ATTENTION ALL MEMBERS *** Regarding Those TankerEnemy Chemtrail Videos

Zaphod58
reply to post by MALBOSIA

 

In this case, yes I can say that he is hoaxing. You can easily prove that he is lying in the video, even without listening to the original video.

These are the same flap fairings, on a different aircraft. You can clearly see that they are solid, and designed to move with the flaps, and don't have nozzles on them. But in the TankerEnemy video, you can clearly see where he says that they are nozzles used to spray.

They are NOT solid.. they house the Hydraulic flap actuators.. they do move with the flaps but are hollow not solidI work on these..You Fail

RocksFromSpace

Zaphod58
reply to post by MALBOSIA

 

In this case, yes I can say that he is hoaxing. You can easily prove that he is lying in the video, even without listening to the original video.

These are the same flap fairings, on a different aircraft. You can clearly see that they are solid, and designed to move with the flaps, and don't have nozzles on them. But in the TankerEnemy video, you can clearly see where he says that they are nozzles used to spray.

They are NOT solid.. they house the Hydraulic flap actuators.. they do move with the flaps but are hollow not solidI work on these..You Fail

reply to post by RocksFromSpace


They are solid in the sense that they have no nozzles. So no, not a fail in any sense. If you look at the outside, which is the what was being talked about, you can see that they are solid all the way around, and have no possible way of spraying anything from them.

reply to post by RocksFromSpace


And in all the years I have been around aircraft, not once have I seen one that had any sort of piping coming through it. So unless you can prove that they do, and show evidence that they do, the point still stands. There are no nozzles through the fairings.

reply to post by Korg Trinity


Feel free to contact the person that shot the original. He even offered base base tours from what I hear. And will be happy to discuss it with you.

reply to post by Zaphod58


My fault, I thought Solid meant Solid...not No nozzles visible.
But you do have to concede that nozzles can be installed in a hollow fairing, hence Chemtrail spraying is possible from these fairing !!

reply to post by Zaphod58


Given that you have to acknowledge the fact that it could be possible that the video was not authentic as in altered to suit... and the fact that it is not impossible for spraying equipment to have been placed where spraying can be observed in the video....

As you willing to concede your original ban on this video evidence?

Korg.

reply to post by RocksFromSpace


I have never denied the possibility of chemtrails. However, in this instance, he is lying, and it is a hoax.

reply to post by Korg Trinity


It's not a ban on these videos, it's moving then to the hoax forum.

And it's not *my* "ban", the decision was made by the Staff, Admins, and Owners based on the evidence.

This has nothing to do with whether chemtrails are real or not, nor my neutrality when it comes to actioning that forum. This only has to do with TankerEnemy videos.

Zaphod58
reply to post by Korg Trinity

 

It's not a ban on these videos, it's moving then to the hoax forum.

And it's not *my* "ban", the decision was made by the Staff, Admins, and Owners based on the evidence.

This has nothing to do with whether chemtrails are real or not, nor my neutrality when it comes to actioning that forum. This only has to do with TankerEnemy videos.

OH, I see..I thought you were banning and moving ALL Chemtrail threads to the Hoax forum. ..My Bad

reply to post by RocksFromSpace


No, the only thing being moved are TankerEnemy videos. Chemtrail threads and discussion will continue to have their own forum, and nothing has changed with regards to them.

At first I was like cool, who could have a problem with this ?
A hoax is a hoax, understood lets move on.
But now I see what you can come up against....
Sheesh, good luck .

Hey admins, after we get this chemtrail hoaxer put away;
Maybe we could work on little things like the 7000+*
Obama hoax threads ? (*that number may be low)

I'm still an American not a commie or a socialist.
And sharia law is not the law of the land.
Every single gun owner in this country now has more guns
since 2009 and ZERO have been confiscated.
I know Obamas ring tells a different story but 6 years in,
I'm pretty confident these accusations are not "GONNA HAPPEN"
That's all, thanks...

sealing
At first I was like cool, who could have a problem with this ?
A hoax is a hoax, understood lets move on.
But now I see what you can come up against....
Sheesh, good luck .

Yes but if the govt is involved in chemtrails, then
they can certainly see thru these hoax pretenses

Zaphod58
Upon reviewing certain videos by the YouTube user TankerEnemy, the Admin and Staff have made the decision that going forward, any thread that is started using these videos will automatically be placed into the HOAX forum, and any reply using these videos will be removed.

The reason for this comes from the following video(one of many similar videos):

In this video you can clearly see TankerEnemy pointing out several "nozzles" and "spraying equipment" on the aircraft.

Now, for the original video:

In the original you can clearly hear the crew filming making jokes about "spraying" and saying "I have to put this on YouTube.

At the 0:15 mark in the TankerEnemy video, when he highlights the "nozzles", what he is pointing to are actually the pieces sticking down under the wing. They're aerodynamic fairings on the bottom of the flap, and they are solid, with no way for anything to be sprayed through them.

Based on this, and other videos that have been shown to be hoaxes by this person, we will be implementing this policy immediately.

Thank you.

edit on 10/30/2013 by Zaphod58 because: (no reason given)

I don't understand what you are trying to claim here. Is it that nothing is
being sprayed from the tanker? Or is it that it is impossible for the tanker to
have been modified to facilitate spraying? Or that the video has been edited
to include/exclude certain terms, thus proving that the tanker is not chemtrailing?
I am confused as to what exactly proves this a hoax video/you-tuber.

Personally, I know chemtrailing is a reality as I witness it on a daily basis.

reply to post by OneFreeMan


Which part of this paragraph did you not understand?

At the 0:15 mark in the TankerEnemy video, when he highlights the "nozzles", what he is pointing to are actually the pieces sticking down under the wing. They're aerodynamic fairings on the bottom of the flap, and they are solid, with no way for anything to be sprayed through them.

reply to post by OneFreeMan


The original video was modified. This is not a debate about whether chemtrails are real or not, it is an announcement of policy decided upon by the ATS staff.

Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by OneFreeMan

 

Which part of this paragraph did you not understand?

At the 0:15 mark in the TankerEnemy video, when he highlights the "nozzles", what he is pointing to are actually the pieces sticking down under the wing. They're aerodynamic fairings on the bottom of the flap, and they are solid, with no way for anything to be sprayed through them.

Yes, but I also read Rocksfromspace's comment above. Are you saying that the person
who made the video with commentary couldn't have been mistaken in his description,
or that modifications to this part of the tanker cannot be made to facilitate spraying?

reply to post by OneFreeMan


TankerEnemy altered the video to show something that isn't true. The video is a hoax, and will be handled appropriately.

reply to post by Zaphod58


This thread needs just a tad bit of humor, though I agree with every page.

Here is a actual chemtrail. Honest to God!

It is a aircraft, trailing chemicals...to put out fires.



Debunk it if you can.

Zaphod58
reply to post by OneFreeMan

 

The original video was modified. This is not a debate about whether chemtrails are real or not, it is an announcement of policy decided upon by the ATS staff.

What is described appears to be what we are seeing. Maybe something
occurred to the commentator on later reviewing the video and he added it.
I don't see how that proves a hoax in any way. This is good evidence as to
the reality of the chemtrailing program which so many here apparently so
vehemently deny.

It all seems very dictatorial to me to make this call, and it makes me very suspicious.
I have also noticed that you are among the chemtrail deniers here. Is it sound policy
to have a moderator with your views aiding in making suspect decisions like this?
It hardly instils confidence in the reader.