What Is The Tea Party and What Do They Stand For?

reply to post by Lingweenie


What happen? Mr. Soros lose his money? Moffat?

What Billionaires are you talking about? Name them.

amfirst1
reply to post by beezzer

 

The libertarian party can easily be co-opted. U have better luck voting for the lessor of the two evils. Otherwise, the Marxist in the democrat party will come to power and so long to any opposition.

What gave you the hint that the libertarian party can be easily co-opted?

I am not saying they cant be, I just cant figure out your enormous leap of faith. Here we have democrats and republicans, proven liars and traitors and you are telling people "U have better luck voting for the lesser of the two evils."

OMG! (rolls eyes)

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Some people never learn. Look at dude who wants to suspend the constitution whenever he feels like it.

These are prime examples of what got us here. I am simply flabbergasted. There is a definite divide in this country between those who appear to either want a totalitarian state or are willing to live in one instead of trying to live in freedom and democracy..

Maybe democracy is difficult for some people. It does, after all, require them to think, pay attention, and act responsibly.

reply to post by OpinionatedB


I kind of read the posts you are alluding to and find no problem with someone building a mosque on their own property. Why is being christian ok but not muslim? USA is a secular country with religious freedoms guaranteed.

nwtrucker
reply to post by Lingweenie

 

What happen? Mr. Soros lose his money? Moffat?

What Billionaires are you talking about? Name them.

The most notable people how have been influencing politics are the Koch brothers. They have been funding organisations such as AFP (Americans for prosperity.) The Koch brothers are among the richest Americans right now. And they have spent millions of dollars in political donations, research, setting up rallies, paying speakers to show up at these rallies, and etc.

They usually don't come out right and personally fund these things. They usually funnel it into their programs such as ASP, so they indirectly fund political interests. And the Koch brothers tend to side with heavy right wing politics. Which can explain why they do not like taxes, and do not like government interference, such as EPA regulations.

Look back to my previous post and watch the video. Or simply research the Koch brothers, and you will find out all about them. I'm sure there are better videos than that one out there.

reply to post by OpinionatedB


I'm beginning to think that you don't "think" at all. Don't accuse me of something I never said nor subscribed to.

The constitution is directed at restraining Gov't...not people.

LAWS restrain people.

it's really simple...IF you think about it. Unless a gov't agency stopped the Mosque from being built then it has zero to do with the Constitution. And even then, it's a borderline call open to "interpretation".

Your example is without "merit". Your rhetoric lends to groups who want dominance over our "Constitution". It is not a suicide pact.

It works in conjunction with willing people with occasional common sense. The end result of the intended Mosque at ground zero is a perfect example of it all working. Not a violation of the Constitution whatsoever.

reply to post by Lingweenie


Once again, what else is new? Soros and Co. somehow escape your notation?

The Dems and Republicans are without same? How about the greens?? Come on, single one and you show an agenda, show them all and it becomes believable and honest.

damwel
The tea party got branded racist because a boatload of them were racists. Now by the same token you can't blame all tea partiers for that. Just like can't say they are all stupid but there are an awful lot of them that are dumb as a mud fence.

edit on Tue October 29th, 2013 by damwel because: (no reason given)

Funny, because this is the dumbest post I've seen, must be a low info voter.....

OpinionatedB
reply to post by ketsuko

 

Since the TEA party offered no solutions, then a platform that does will be much better...and it will have a different name, since it is a party which offers solutions

Clearly you are not familiar with current affairs in congress or the senate, Rand Paul proposed a bill to audit the federal reserve, that's a big start. Last person to take on the federal reserve was killed. Thats more than the criminal dems or repubs have done in 40+ years to help this country. It sounds like you already made up your mind though.........

reply to post by pyramid head


A bill which will get shot down like everything else. It requires more than one person proposing things that gets shot down...

this is how they have been convincing us for years that they are representing the good of the American people. they propose things and shoot them down.. maybe sometimes it will loose by one vote maybe sometimes it doesn't even get voted on... but it always looses...If it just so happens that it does pass, by the time it passes they have removed everything that would have been good from it and/or attached some really really bad crap to it making null and void any good that might have been in said bill.

that pattern is how they have gotten away with destroying our country and I am done with it....

They either need to start actually doing the right thing, not just making proposals and voting everything down, or they can go....

PS. Mr Paul is a good person, but he is one... and no one listens to him...

OpinionatedB
reply to post by pyramid head

 

A bill which will get shot down like everything else. It requires more than one person proposing things that gets shot down...

this is how they have been convincing us for years that they are representing the good of the American people. they propose things and shoot them down.. maybe sometimes it will loose by one vote maybe sometimes it doesn't even get voted on... but it always looses...

that pattern is how they have gotten away with destroying our country and I am done with it....

They either need to start actually doing the right thing, not just making proposals and voting everything down, or they can go....

PS. Mr Paul is a good person, but he is one... and no one listens to him...

So now its not the "solution", its the fact no one will support it? This makes no sense, the majority of tea party members are along similar lines with Dr. Paul, they have solutions and propose them, often. Under your logic we can only elect from the current corrupt two party system, which has gotten us in this mess.

The fact someone is even speaking about the federal reserve and getting attention is better than anything either party has done. The fact corrupt officials disagree and will go against him is irrelevant. The burden is not on him to get the law passed, it is on YOU to stop electing the POS dems /repubs and elect people with similar interest to Dr. Pauls that will get this legislation passed. There are solutions out there and people fighting for them youre just not listening.

pyramid head

OpinionatedB
reply to post by pyramid head

 

A bill which will get shot down like everything else. It requires more than one person proposing things that gets shot down...

this is how they have been convincing us for years that they are representing the good of the American people. they propose things and shoot them down.. maybe sometimes it will loose by one vote maybe sometimes it doesn't even get voted on... but it always looses...

that pattern is how they have gotten away with destroying our country and I am done with it....

They either need to start actually doing the right thing, not just making proposals and voting everything down, or they can go....

PS. Mr Paul is a good person, but he is one... and no one listens to him...

So now its not the "solution", its the fact no one will support it? This makes no sense, the majority of tea party members are along similar lines with Dr. Paul, they have solutions and propose them, often. Under your logic we can only elect from the current corrupt two party system, which has gotten us in this mess.

The fact someone is even speaking about the federal reserve and getting attention is better than anything either party has done. The fact corrupt officials disagree and will go against him is irrelevant. The burden is not on him to get the law passed, it is on YOU to stop electing the POS dems /repubs and elect people with similar interest to Dr. Pauls that will get this legislation passed. There are solutions out there and people fighting for them youre just not listening.

No, this is not my point. Apparently you are not understanding my point. The two party system is who is shooting everything down that happens to be good for this country. We tried getting Mr. Paul voted in remember? And remember that votes for him weren't even being counted?

So long as there is one republican and one democrat in congress or the house that is currently there we are screwed as a country. Both the republican and democratic parties are and have destroyed this constitution. So long as they stay in office everything will get voted down, and the socialist agenda will be furthered. Same as we have seen these past 20 years.

What we have to do as a people, together, is give an ultimatum... all these people start doing their actual job according to the constitution, abolishing all the unconstitutional laws, and do what is right for this country economically or we will stand together and vote them all out.

that is what I am proposing. That we make a list of solutions to all our problems and hand it to our elected officials and together tell them if this does not get implemented then we will summarily vote every single one of them out.

If they refuse to go that is another story... but for now.. what I am proposing is the above. And the proposal is because many things need done, and they are refusing to do it in Washington.

But it requires all the people to stand together in order to effect the real change I am talking about.

reply to post by OpinionatedB

No, this is not my point. Apparently you are not understanding my point. The two party system is who is shooting everything down that happens to be good for this country. We tried getting Mr. Paul voted in remember? And remember that votes for him weren't even being counted? So long as there is one republican and one democrat in congress or the house that is currently there we are screwed as a country. Both the republican and democratic parties are and have destroyed this constitution. So long as they stay in office everything will get voted down, and the socialist agenda will be furthered. Same as we have seen these past 20 years. What we have to do as a people, together, is give an ultimatum... all these people start doing their actual job according to the constitution, abolishing all the unconstitutional laws, and do what is right for this country economically or we will stand together and vote them all out. that is what I am proposing. That we make a list of solutions to all our problems and hand it to our elected officials and together tell them if this does not get implemented then we will summarily vote every single one of them out. If they refuse to go that is another story... but for now.. what I am proposing is the above. And the proposal is because many things need done, and they are refusing to do it in Washington. But it requires all the people to stand together in order to effect the real change I am talking about.

We were discussing the tea party and how they lack solutions. I am simply saying they are neither dem or repub, and have solutions. They are a third party. This is real change if you choose to accept it. You were commenting on the tea party, they are a real third party with constitutional solutions, visit Rand Pauls web site. He is not the only one, cruz, lee, ect....

This is realistic change, since the tea party has been voted in, the amount of new laws passed has been drastically reduced. You can talk about some "great purge", it is happening, thats what another party is. What you are talking about is unrealistic, but your idea is being done on a realistic scale through the tea party. That is what happened in the 2010 elections for the most part.

The Tea Party is an artificial 'grass-roots' political organization created by billionaires in an effort to convince people that societal changes that said billionaires don't like, are actually anti-American, left-wing, Communist symptoms of trouble. The Tea Party is a lie, conceived by liars, in order to spread more lies.

reply to post by pyramid head


So basically people should be more careful selecting democrat and republican candidates in the primaries before the final showdown. Not all democrats and republicans are the same, that much should be a given by now.

What I also dont get is why the libertarian party is the only 'minor party' listed on all state ballots for the national elections. Why dont the other parties take the effort to go get enough signatures, file the proper paperwork, try to get some financial sponsors, TO ALSO BE LISTED on each ballot. If a party is listed on only 10-15 states then realistically they have ZERO CHANCE of gathering enough delegates. It becomes a vote of protest much like voting for bugs bunny.

The election system appears to have been fatally flawed on purpose for many decades if not centuries. Go to any other developed country and small parties together can get up to 40% of the total vote count combined, whereas in america they get less than 2% at best.