UFO Crash In Peru Seen By American Soldier believes Aliens Have Underground Peruvian Base

defcon5
Pardon me for asking, but since when does the US military have anyone stationed in Peru?
The last I heard they tried to set up a base there in some deal with the Peruvian government, and the citizens went ballistic and put a stop to it.

Def,

Let me answer your question with a question, in the true spirit of American politics.

When does the US government, especially it's rogue subsidiary's/black-ops care what anyone in the world thinks?

Star and flag. Thank you for the cool story OP. Love these. I like Dr Greers work too because he only goes after the most credible witnesses.

mirageman
Great story! It would have made an excellent episode of UFO Files on the History Channel back in the mid 2000s with a full re-construction.

But what do we really have beyond the verbal evidence of the witness?

Looking at the frozen video frame(s) of payslip evidence given there are discrepancies.

The guy's full name appears as "Jonathon van Waygandt" in the first but is stated as "Weygandt Jonatha V"

Is this a simple clerical error that his first and surname have different spellings?

It seems he was born in 1976.The MACG were involved in Peru in 1997. Making him 20 or 21 at the time of the event . Of course that is if it is even partly true.

This seems to be a bit like the Bob Lazar story (and many others). The evidence doesn't quite add up and we are left to wonder why (not)?

Interesting if even partially true.

edit on 29/10/13 by mirageman because: tidy up

Nice spot, one would have thought that once entered on the 'System' that at the very least his name would have been spelt correctly on what should be an official document.

As you say though, it may be just a clerical error.

Big deal, you can spell it like Johnathon, Jonathan or Jonathon. The name Steve gets spelled Stephan or Steven or a hundred other examples. When left to somebody at an office only hearing it, in the non-computerized age, typing it, it can get spelled an any of the other ways. It happens with my name all the time.

mirageman
Great story! It would have made an excellent episode of UFO Files on the History Channel back in the mid 2000s with a full re-construction.

But what do we really have beyond the verbal evidence of the witness?

Looking at the frozen video frame(s) of payslip evidence given there are discrepancies.

The guy's full name appears as "Jonathon van Waygandt" in the first but is stated as "Weygandt Jonatha V"

Is this a simple clerical error that his first and surname have different spellings?

It seems he was born in 1976.The MACG were involved in Peru in 1997. Making him 20 or 21 at the time of the event . Of course that is if it is even partly true.

This seems to be a bit like the Bob Lazar story (and many others). The evidence doesn't quite add up and we are left to wonder why (not)?

Interesting if even partially true.

edit on 29/10/13 by mirageman because: tidy up

mirageman
Great story! It would have made an excellent episode of UFO Files on the History Channel back in the mid 2000s with a full re-construction.

But what do we really have beyond the verbal evidence of the witness?

Looking at the frozen video frame(s) of payslip evidence given there are discrepancies.

The guy's full name appears as "Jonathon van Waygandt" in the first but is stated as "Weygandt Jonatha V"

Is this a simple clerical error that his first and surname have different spellings?

It seems he was born in 1976.The MACG were involved in Peru in 1997. Making him 20 or 21 at the time of the event . Of course that is if it is even partly true.

This seems to be a bit like the Bob Lazar story (and many others). The evidence doesn't quite add up and we are left to wonder why (not)?

Interesting if even partially true.

edit on 29/10/13 by mirageman because: tidy up

This is exactly why most don't really want to discuss their experience. I have had several sightings and was part of security and perimeter force for two crashes in Germany you won't find any mention of anywhere. If you did it would say f16.

There are no videos, pics, or proof of anything so I am not sure why anyone would want to share and get crucified. Lol. This video sounds interesting, did he say what kind of ET. We had allot of cross training going on in and around time frame but honestly don't remember anything with Peru. But sadly I can't choose what part of memory works when, it is very strange.

But we have always had things going that no one really knew about. I not sure why the Marines would be there unless it was an embassy team, does he say.......

The Bot

He's close. Undersea off the coast of Chile

reply to post by mirageman



One is a DD-214 and the other is paystub. The military does place middle name last. This totally adds up to anyone that is a veteran I see nothing deceiving in the documents they look legit and to be honest they concern me since they disclose a lot of info. My paystubs actually read differently from my DD-214 since they use your full real name and yes there are errors on documents all the time..the government ain't perfect. And to be honest as long as the pay rolled in nobody cared to make a correction.

Ok yall... I did some digging and found some information
to back up that his group MACG-28 was in PERU during
1997 for a program called Operation Laser Strike.


Operation Laser Strike was a program aimed at stopping
drug trafficking and smuggling.

Marine Air Control Squadron 2 (MACS-2) is a United States
Marine Corps aviation command and control squadron. The
squadron provides aerial surveillance and air traffic control
for the II Marine Expeditionary Force. They are based at Marine
Corps Air Station Cherry Point and fall under Marine Air Control
Group 28 and the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing

The mission[1] of Marine Air Control Squadron 2 is to detect,
identify and control the intercept of hostile aircraft and missiles,
and provide navigational assistance to friendly aircraft and provide
continuous all-weather, radar, non-radar approach, departure, en route
and tower air traffic control services to friendly aircraft.

In 1993, MACS-2 relocated to Beaufort, South Carolina, subordinate
to Marine Aircraft Group 31. While supporting MAG-31 in 1994, MACS-2
acquired Air Traffic Control Detachments A and B. Also in 1994, MACS-2
deployed in support of exercise Display Determination in Turkey, a NATO
exercise involving the integration of foreign military units with American
units to include an ATC and EW/C detachment. Between 1995 and 1998,
MACS-2 participated in Joint Task Force 6, also known as Operation Lone Star,
a drug interdiction operation patrolling the Mexican-American border.
Further drug interdiction operations included EC-7 in 1996 in Ecuador and
Operation Laser Strike in 1997 conducted in Peru. ATC detachments
C and D joined MACS-2 in 1998.

The base appeared to of been in Pacullpa Peru.

www.globalsecurity.org...

boguerat.www4.50megs.com...

www.globalsecurity.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

The MACS-2 Insignia


So it looks like they were suppose to be watching, intercepting,
shooting or grounding drug trafficking/related craft down...
it was part of what they were trained to do.

leolady

mirageman
Great story! It would have made an excellent episode of UFO Files on the History Channel back in the mid 2000s with a full re-construction.

But what do we really have beyond the verbal evidence of the witness?

Looking at the frozen video frame(s) of payslip evidence given there are discrepancies.

The guy's full name appears as "Jonathon van Waygandt" in the first but is stated as "Weygandt Jonatha V"

Is this a simple clerical error that his first and surname have different spellings?

It seems he was born in 1976.The MACG were involved in Peru in 1997. Making him 20 or 21 at the time of the event . Of course that is if it is even partly true.

This seems to be a bit like the Bob Lazar story (and many others). The evidence doesn't quite add up and we are left to wonder why (not)?

Interesting if even partially true.

edit on 29/10/13 by mirageman because: tidy up

It's spelled correctly on his discharge paper. That's the important one. The other was probably entered like that in the payroll office.

The way this guy talks... Squawk codes etc.. He know's what he is talking about.. He is pretty convincing and sincere.. Even makes corrections on small stuff military lingo wise. In his eye's he believes whatever he saw.
Firepiston

breadinspector

angryhulk
Given that I can't watch the video at work, fancy telling me a little about it?

edit on 28/10/13 by angryhulk because: (no reason given)

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“yes there were life forms in the ship.” He said he held the creatures hands, which only had four fingers.

Have any of these people confirmed that Skinny Bob was the real deal... it has four fingers.. and even with today's CGI effects no one is coming close to that footage. That Eye Skin stretch.. Neck and eye and facial expressions are still not possible.

If anyone thinks that they can easily replicate that footage can you point to any footage you think looks real when you know its cgi?

I would bet Skinny Bob is the same type of alien that this guy held hands with.



I want some of those people in the disclosure project to confirm this alien is what they witnessed.

tripsick

breadinspector

angryhulk
Given that I can't watch the video at work, fancy telling me a little about it?

edit on 28/10/13 by angryhulk because: (no reason given)

'
“yes there were life forms in the ship.” He said he held the creatures hands, which only had four fingers.

Have any of these people confirmed that Skinny Bob was the real deal... it has four fingers.. and even with today's CGI effects no one is coming close to that footage. That Eye Skin stretch.. Neck and eye and facial expressions are still not possible.

If anyone thinks that they can easily replicate that footage can you point to any footage you think looks real when you know its cgi?

I would bet Skinny Bob is the same type of alien that this guy held hands with.

I want some of those people in the disclosure project to confirm this alien is what they witnessed.

Whilst skinny bob looks like CGI to me (though the footage of him at the end of the video looks really, really convincing) I do absolutely agree that people who've seen Greys should go over things like this and give their opinion.

Skinny Bob? This has been a great discussion but SB is way off topic.

Plus, there's already a thread about the topic, so...

ATS Thread about Skinny Bob

reply to post by breadinspector


I posted this a few days ago.... but, that's ATS for you.

I don't get it.
Glad you enjoyed my post.

reply to post by Logiciel


Plus he also stated that some of the purple gooey stuff got on his arm and burnt right through his clothes and then burned his skin. Wouldn't that had left a scar? Especially since the men in black did not get him medical help right away but kept him locked up in a room for several hours.

I find this hard to believe, unless he decides to show us the scars... which he didn't. No proof.

Stari

reply to post by lovebeck


not off topic.. 4 finger grey Large head small nose and mouth no ears like he said held his hand...

Its exactly what he was talking about..

tripsick

breadinspector

angryhulk
Given that I can't watch the video at work, fancy telling me a little about it?

edit on 28/10/13 by angryhulk because: (no reason given)

'
“yes there were life forms in the ship.” He said he held the creatures hands, which only had four fingers.

Have any of these people confirmed that Skinny Bob was the real deal... it has four fingers.. and even with today's CGI effects no one is coming close to that footage. That Eye Skin stretch.. Neck and eye and facial expressions are still not possible.

If anyone thinks that they can easily replicate that footage can you point to any footage you think looks real when you know its cgi?

I would bet Skinny Bob is the same type of alien that this guy held hands with.

I want some of those people in the disclosure project to confirm this alien is what they witnessed.

I can confirm the skinny bob alien video is real, it was shot by the soviets and my intel has given me word that the footage is legit.

dlbott

mirageman
Great story! It would have made an excellent episode of UFO Files on the History Channel back in the mid 2000s with a full re-construction.

But what do we really have beyond the verbal evidence of the witness?

Looking at the frozen video frame(s) of payslip evidence given there are discrepancies.

The guy's full name appears as "Jonathon van Waygandt" in the first but is stated as "Weygandt Jonatha V"

Is this a simple clerical error that his first and surname have different spellings?

It seems he was born in 1976.The MACG were involved in Peru in 1997. Making him 20 or 21 at the time of the event . Of course that is if it is even partly true.

This seems to be a bit like the Bob Lazar story (and many others). The evidence doesn't quite add up and we are left to wonder why (not)?

Interesting if even partially true.

edit on 29/10/13 by mirageman because: tidy up

This is exactly why most don't really want to discuss their experience. I have had several sightings and was part of security and perimeter force for two crashes in Germany you won't find any mention of anywhere. If you did it would say f16.

There are no videos, pics, or proof of anything so I am not sure why anyone would want to share and get crucified. Lol. This video sounds interesting, did he say what kind of ET. We had allot of cross training going on in and around time frame but honestly don't remember anything with Peru. But sadly I can't choose what part of memory works when, it is very strange.

But we have always had things going that no one really knew about. I not sure why the Marines would be there unless it was an embassy team, does he say.......

The Bot

you were on the security team for 2 crashes in germany? r u from germany? or were u there as a solider could u add some more info this and share your expereicne mate thhis is interesting to say the least

reply to post by Stari


He specifically said that after the incident he noticed that the liquid had eaten through his BDU's and burned the hair on his arm, not the skin.

This was a great watch, and very entertaining read.

S n' F OP.

I don't really have much to add except to say - I believe him.

CdT