UFO Crash In Peru Seen By American Soldier believes Aliens Have Underground Peruvian Base

Char-Lee

crazyewok
Lol another crash?

Maybe et should stop space travel for a while and concentrate on improvinh saftey

Shot down, not crashed. So maybe the fight reported off So. Ca. between Chinese and the aliens (because the US had no ships in the area and could not get there) was real after all, maybe this is the odd connection we now have with China.

Well i guess my question would be shot down with what, yea we have a BFL, that is big frigging laser, but I did not think it had been deployed on the Ships. At least not in the size and power necessary to take down ET lol.

We also have rail gun, but it too has not been perfected or deployed as far as I can tell. But then again they are both supposed black projects along with others.

Although not impossible, I think it would be really difficult to shoot one down.

The Bot

Truth or Not.... Time will tell karma's a bitch MIB/DOE.

This man sounded pretty legit to me. Although I did wonder how old he was when this event happened, because he did look very young. Maybe he is one of the chosen few, who don't seem to age. Like me lol
However, the body language and the occasional stutter made it real for me. When I met the aliens, I couldn't even string a sentence together, so he did very well in my book. That to me wasn't acting!!






hx

i call shenanigans.

this reminds me of the video of the french guy that could supposedly see the future. that went on for pages of people thinking he seemed like the real deal only to finally find out it was all a hoax. this guy is either making it up or he's an actor. ETA and that other older balding guy that claimed he knew about aliens coming (i think the premise was because we were destroying our own planet). everyone insisted that his mannerisms and all his details made him seem legit.... turned out to be an actor.

This certainly is interesting. I've really tried to focus on the guys eyes and just his general psychology to see if he's lying...and he seems like he's telling the truth, or, he just genuinely believes what he's saying.

Either way, it's a great video, it's interesting and entertains me.
I have my doubts as I am very skeptical about everything, but...this kind of thing is fun right now. In a week I'll forget about it.

reply to post by happinness

I did wonder how old he was when this event happened, because he did look very young

The video was made as part of the witness testimonies for the 2001 disclosure project , his alleged experience happened in 1997 so it was only a few years prior to the video's filming

happinness
reply to post by Logiciel

 

The house appears to be occupied these days, but for at least 20 years I know for a fact it was empty.

It looks shabby and unloved compared with the other houses in the road. My Daughters friends when they were growing up used to tell tales of seeing a bald headed man peering out of the windows and used to run like hell when he appeared. I didn't take any notice at the time and put it down to their imagination.
This has prompted me to think about it and I will ask a local taxi driver who lives near that house and see if he knows anymore details on the house.
There have certainly been lots of rumours over the years. Allegedly a guy hung himself in the garage which belongs to the property at the end of the garden not long after it was built.

I know what I saw though and nothing will change that. It was around 1992/3 I can roughly gauge that by my Daughters age at the time. The other thing was that these MIB were all the same height, or at least seemed to be. My immediate thoughts at the time were Freemasons. Black suites, white shirts and black ties and briefcases, until I got closer and then nothing made any sense.

The house is on top of a hill and the garden slopes. I wonder what is underneath it? Got me thinking now!! lol

hx

The stories your daughters tell are real enough. Where I grew up, we lived in the top flat in the middle of a long row of Victorian terraced street. Our downstairs neighbors were a couple of war widows who never went out and just wore black. When we went out to play in the back garden, they'd often appear at the window staring out - coal black eyes on white faces with long black dresses. Honest to god, it was looking up and seeing Pinhead and the other cenobites looking down at you. We'd hide in a coal shed until they disappeared

Logiciel
Then why do you guys think these entities feel the need to hide from plain sight and get shot at?
If they are threatten buy some part of governement (remember Eisenhower warning?), why don't they take action? Surely they have the means to...
Some kind of intergalactic treaty? Non-interference? But then are there no individualistic thinking in who knows how many kind of them are out there?

edit on 28-10-2013 by Logiciel because: (no reason given)

The war isn't over yet. The war that determines whether we are a free or slave race. Our creators, the 'Reptilians', say we still belong to them. Not only did they push us towards intelligence, they experimented with our species. This made the 'Greys', their predecessors, a bit angry.

Since we were now intelligent, we should have the right to determine we we would become. The 'Reptilians' were not happy about this at all but were not in a position to do otherwise. They had to pack up and let us be. We were now a hands-off species. However, we are a watched species.

The war comes down to this. The 'Reptilians' still consider us their property, their creations to do with as they will. They wish us to become little more than slaves. The 'Greys' have split into two factions. One thinks we are not worth it and should be wiped out as we are nothing more than an experiment, and a failed one at that. The other faction sees something worthwhile is us but we are not yet ready to be part of a larger "community" of species.

That's it in a nutshell. There is a lot more going on that is not seen. Take it for what it's worth.

OK I hear a lot of people asking why the bloke is still alive if they threatened to kill him. his family etc

I should think the answer is obvious: he is still alive in order to discredit his story, cos they didn't kill him

reply to post by ObservingTheWorld

That's it in a nutshell. There is a lot more going on that is not seen. Take it for what it's worth.

You are aware that the reason it's not seen is because it's not happening ?
I mean is that a plot line from Farscape or something .

reply to post by Threegirls

I should think the answer is obvious: he is still alive in order to discredit his story, cos they didn't kill him

Either that or because it's not true , with the latter being more likely .

reply to post by gortex


to be honest, I don't think it is fair to disregard someones testimony just because they mention that they liked 'sci fi' movies as a kid. I mean, who didn't?

I am not saying I believe his testimony or that I dont, but I certainly would not discount it on that fact alone and I dont think that liking scifi movies as a kid is reason enough for anyone else to either.

unb3k44n7
The story is interesting and sounds like it could be believable, however, my question is: Wouldn't it just be easier to off from the guy from the off (play on words not intended) instead of wasting your time yelling at him and threatening him for 8 or 9 hours? I mean, really, that's a whole 8 or 9 hours of YOUR time that you dedicated to ONE person who, IMO, would be much less important than the secrecy of an underground Peruvian UFO base.

End ONE man in ajungle for secrecy -- sounds much more logical than investing 8 or 9 hours of hostile threats AND 3 days in a prison cell in hopes to shut him up, especially when no one else knows and nobody's around in the first place.

Just doesn't sound time and resource-efficient to me really

edit on 10/28/2013 by unb3k44n7 because: (no reason given)

Well there could be a number of possible answers for that, maybe the MiB and the the hostile threateners believe in karma and reincarnation, if you kill someone youll have bad karma in your next life, and the person you kill will kill you in another, maybe the Mib beleived that?

Maybe if they killed him people will think hes a martyr and also his family will make a big scene out of it unless they killed his family too but they also have family ie his sisters husband and family friends will make a big deal out of it so theres jusst a continous circle of killing, especially if one believes in karma as well thats a grave risk to shut someone up.

reply to post by Lady_Tuatha

I am not saying I believe his testimony or that I dont, but I certainly would not discount it on that fact alone and I dont think that liking scifi movies as a kid is reason enough for anyone else to either.

I don't dismiss it because of him liking Sci Fi as a kid I dismiss it because I don't believe his story , I first saw the video many years ago and even as a firm believer in ET visitation I didn't believe him then as I don't believe him now .

He states the OP was around 11pm at night. @ 11:00 mark or so, he states how the "sun" is coming down and the craft is not reflecting any light. Confusion on my part?

reply to post by Lady_Tuatha


Thanks Lady_Tuatha. It really comes down to some basics. One, are there alien life forms? Two, if so, are they interstellar or interdimensional? Three, are the odd tales from ancient civilizations just fantasy or is there some truth to them at all? If we are going sci-fi, then most of ATS is only sci-fi.

Okay, here goes. During the Big Bang, not only was our Universe created, but many others right along with it. These other Universes would be considered 'alternate dimensions'. Now these Universes are quite similar as the same forces are interacting with them in the same way. This does not mean that there aren't nuances that are affect each reality differently. And it is those nuances that we need to look at.

note: Just because someone can make a choice between two option, it does not mean that another dimension is created where the other choice was made. It takes a lot of energy to create a new Universe.

Now in a few of these Universes, life came to be. And in at least one, intelligent life formed (no, not the one we live in. Well, not yet). This intelligent life started millennia before humanity ever came to be. Today, we know these entities as the 'Greys'. It took them quite some time, but they soon understood about the other dimensions and soon were able to cross over into them. But not all 'Earths' evolved life.

They eventually found one that did (Nope, still not us). The dominant lifeform was dinosaurs, or, reptilian. There were some signs of rudimentary intelligence in one strain. Fortunately there wasn't a world cataclysm on this 'Earth' (Whether it just didn't happen or the 'Greys' stopped it, I'm not sure).

The 'Greys' helped the 'Reptilians' along the path to self awareness. They were with them through the whole process. In the end, this caused resentment. The 'Reptilians' felt as if they were manipulated. They were not allowed to become what they would have been if left alone. Even though the two species still intermingle, there is always an undercurrent of distrust.

So now the Reptilians started exploring the dimensions. They found one where most of their kind was long gone. In their place, mammals were now the dominant species. They came as the Annunaki and genetically created new species. We were nothing more than experimental beasts. The old writings tell of what they did to our species. They weren't always kind.

Eventually the 'Greys' found out about what the 'Reptilians' were doing. They were not happy. The 'Greys' had been accused of interfering in a species development, but they had never gone to this extent. This was the beginning of the War over Humanity.

As is, the 'Reptilians' still think we should be grateful to them and become their unwavering subjects. Some 'Greys' feel we are nothing more than a failed experiment and that are of no use. A larger contingent of the 'Greys' see that we should have a right to continue but are unsure about disclosing the true nature of things as we are still a very violent and selfish species. They do not want a repeat of what the 'Reptilians' did.

So the war goes on. And where we end up at the end of this war determines who we become as a species.

(Later: More on Interstellar travel, Early dimensional travel, Interspecies politics, etc... ) so yes, a lot more unseen.

reply to post by gortex


Why don't you believe his story?

reply to post by Char-Lee


No, just no, let's stop calling anything 'Fallen Angels' 'demons' and anything from biblical texts..

Logiciel
Sometimes I have fun imagining an extraordinary context to these crashes... like it's a bunch of alien teenagers who went on an intergalactic road-trip in one of a few forbidden areas... Earthlings will take you down they said, but they got crazy stuff to check out like this thing called beer that is compatible with our digestive system!
Unprepared and unaware of the dangers of meeting races that have not enlightened, they stole the spaceship of one of the kid's dad, a high ranked officer in intergalactic forces and warped straight to Earth...
Hollywood? Anyone?

I had a good short story about a couple of halfwit janitor types who worked in a lab when the scientists went home and happened upon an intergalactic ship. They decide go get some beers and go for a space cruise...to Old Testament Earth...hiliarity ensues.

It's very hard to tell by the video because his eyes dart back and fourth at different parts of the video, at some parts he is looking up and to the left to the memory center and at other parts he is looking up and to the right to the creative center of his brain. Although his rapid eye blinking at points, the constant touching of his face, and the constant licking of his lips because they are dry, are strong indicators that he is lying. It's possible he's telling the truth but there are stronger indicators that he is not telling the truth. But to address an issue I seen one of the members here brought up that he also mentioned something about that it would seem logical that mentally stable highly intelligent people, would be the kind of people recruited into programs like this, should they exist, would make sense. Being that number one highly intelligent and stable people would be required as a prerequisite to a program like this. Whereas religious zealots would make for an unstable element in such an important program. But on a more realistic note, it would make sense that all of the really intelligent people from around the world would disappear into unknown projects like this, because from where I'm living there don't seem to be to many intelligent people in the larger part of society anymore it would clearly seem that the larger part of society ruining around are the dumber ones, and the religious fanaticals

Disinf..uhm I mean Disclosure Project, Steven Greer?

Thanks, rejected. Next.