Paranarmal, Wichcraft

Hi there guys/girls,

I dont know how to start this so i'll just say wats on my mind.

I've been reading this forum allot lately and i have a question:

I'm thinking of letting myself in into the paranormal world, Since i was a childe I was drown by it i had a few scary experiencess with it and kinda quit trying but my urge is getting stronger and stronger.

I made my own oujaboord and it didnt work for some reason (maybe becos i did it alone) I read some books about witchcraft but didnt have the balls to try it at that time.

Now i feel there is a presence in my room all the time and it doesnt feel bad or anything it feels like it's just observing me and keeping track of what i'm doing.

I had this since i was a small boy.

i will do this with or without your help but i do want some guidance to not fall into traps or be doomed and more of those bad things.

i thought allot about it and i'm 100 procent behind it so there is no single chance you can talk me out of this. I just want someone's help do guide me and help me develope my skills.

My mother is gifted aswell it has been in family at the feemale side all the time, she has dreams where she sees fututure, some1 adviced her not to talk about it but she has them all the time every night, and when i ask her what she dremt if that came true she's almost always 100 procent right.

Me personaly didnt have that many dreams only sort of dejavus where i dreamt like 10 minutes of my life and it came true cos i tell my dreams to my mother all the time. But my mane skill or how you would like to call it it is gost sence, i hear them sence them but dont see them, and another weired thing is i can feel when someone is in contact with them i make a link and when i ask do you believe in this and that they tell what happened, i never have been wrong, i encountered like 6 people who are with this ability. No liers though they were as serius as it could be when we talked.

While writing this i feel my leftside is getting cod as usual when i talk think or write about this stuff.

Someone plz guide me. i want to develope this not for my own good but for all good.

Originally posted by Vitali


I'm thinking of letting myself in into the paranormal world, Since i was a childe I was drown by it i had a few scary experiencess with it

What were your scary experiences?

Originally posted by Vitali
I made my own oujaboord and it didnt work for some reason (maybe becos i did it alone) I read some books about witchcraft but didnt have the balls to try it at that time.

DOn't start out with a ouija board. Start with something simple like tarot cards, palm reading, divination with crystals... You never know who you'll contact with a ouija board.

Originally posted by Vitali
My mother is gifted aswell it has been in family at the feemale side all the time, she has dreams where she sees fututure, some1 adviced her not to talk about it but she has them all the time every night, and when i ask her what she dremt if that came true she's almost always 100 procent right.

Me personaly didnt have that many dreams only sort of dejavus where i dreamt like 10 minutes of my life and it came true cos i tell my dreams to my mother all the time. But my mane skill or how you would like to call it it is gost sence, i hear them sence them but dont see them, and another weired thing is i can feel when someone is in contact with them i make a link and when i ask do you believe in this and that they tell what happened, i never have been wrong, i encountered like 6 people who are with this ability. No liers though they were as serious as it could be when we talked.

Is your mother's gift just the precognitive dreams? Does she have other gifts?
I personally envy people who have decent precognitive dreams- mine are all about me and my boring life. Things I didn't see coming in a waking state, but dreamt about sometimes years before it happens and it's all really boring.


Also, one thing that doesn't really touch on exactly what you're talking about but kind of goes with it- Most of the time when I'm reading cards or palms it's not just the cards I'm reading it's the person. They don't have to change their body language or give hints about whatever, and I try to keep them from talking to much- but still some people are really easy to read, I mainly just get pictures or emotions from them though- no words. One of my ex b/fs could read my mind- actually picked up words. I would try to block him with gibberish and he would pcik up the gibberish and ask me what it meant.

[edit on 11/28/04 by anagrohm]

Well my mom comunicates with the dead in her sleeps thats what i/we figuared out by now, and no she doesnt have anything else on skills, i dont like to call it powers cos they aint.

And me personally i can't remmeber any of my dreams lately but i always wake up tired after 10 hours of sleep.

The things i can remmber are the conversations in my dreams then when we start talking i have that dejavu feeling and i can say what people are gonna say next or do next, that freeks them out. And about palm reading i forgot to mension it becouse its really hard to say if what i'm reading is true or not but i never was wrong and id did it a few times, i dont have a picture in my mind but i'm a guy who sayes things first and then thinks about it and like i sayed all came out in one way or another. I read a girls hand to let her not worry about it I sayed it's for fun. It started out like i can see your life lines that you are gonna have a kid then and then it's gonna be a boy and you are gonna remary 2 times, well she had a kid and devorced now so next ting on the line is marige, it scaryed the crap out of me so when she asked me to read it again i didnt want to.

But for the sake of it, i am more into gohst thing, i sence see shadows not that clear cos i try to repel it but lately i am opposite of it i look into it focus myself and i catch a glimps of something for a second. happens more frequent now.

sorry for bed spelling btw

Having this things its not a bless its a curse that people have to learn to use or to live with depends on your strenght and knowledge.

Do you believe in stars? I do. Mine is a lucky one.

But this topic was about guidence i need it, so plz stay to the topic if you dont minde who can help me advance firther to the next step.

Have you read many books on communicating with spirits?
If that is where you want to focus, then books, many many books would be the way I would start out. Don't just look on the internet, most sites aren't going to give you much information, you can take a book anywhere, and there is just something about a book... I might just be weird, but- books seem to give off more of a vibe than a computer screen, and are easier to filter the BS from the nuggets of wisdom.

I don't mind the spelling. It took me a minute to get what you were saying in a couple of spots, but other than that it's no problem.

Well i read a few books but, i need a few notes what to read, and what to try out, cos i would like to partisapate in reading, meening i want to read and try afterwords.

Originally posted by Vitali
I'm thinking of letting myself in into the paranormal world, Since i was a childe I was drown by it i had a few scary experiencess with it and kinda quit trying but my urge is getting stronger and stronger.

There is a paranormal world, you're now a part of it and the scary experiences are trying to tell you something. The urge is temptation. I'm basing my claim on experience.

Originally posted by Vitali
I made my own oujaboord and it didnt work for some reason (maybe becos i did it alone) I read some books about witchcraft but didnt have the balls to try it at that time.

It's something you fear...doesn't that tell you something?

Originally posted by Vitali
Now i feel there is a presence in my room all the time and it doesnt feel bad or anything it feels like it's just observing me and keeping track of what i'm doing.

I had this since i was a small boy.

That's because there is a presence in your room and it is in fact observing you and what you're doing. When it feels it has an advantage, it will contact you.

Originally posted by Vitali
i will do this with or without your help but i do want some guidance to not fall into traps or be doomed and more of those bad things.

You're heading for a trap, just a warning.

Originally posted by Vitali
i thought allot about it and i'm 100 procent behind it so there is no single chance you can talk me out of this. I just want someone's help do guide me and help me develope my skills.

It is your free will to do so, just trying to help.

Originally posted by Vitali
While writing this i feel my leftside is getting cod as usual when i talk think or write about this stuff.

Again it's fear trying to tell you something. Listen to it.

Originally posted by Vitali
Someone plz guide me. i want to develope this not for my own good but for all good.

If indeed you truly feel you want to do for all good, then pray to the source of all that is good. Ask God how to proceed.

For starters.....I'd let the dead rest...it's a very dangerous thing to play with the other side, especially for someone not experienced. Secondly, what happened that was scary? Was it because you were a child, or did something happen? thirdly You appear to be reading the wrong books on Witchcraft. There "should" be nothing you have to do that you have to have balls to do it.....you seem to have a warped view of things, which is not the way things are. Nothing evil or spooky in witchcraft unless you are taken it to a negative place.

[edit on 11/16/2004 by LadyV]

Hey, good luck with that stuff, man!

I might just suggest something a little more practical such as paying attention in English class...

Vitali,

I would like to offer my guidance for you as someone interestested in the paranormal and witchcraft. Please find yourself a mentor, a teacher. Don't go it alone, and find someone with kindness and goodness in their heart. It is best to find someone to help you along, at a steady pace, but not a fast pace.

I would recommend finding an older wiccan or pagan, someone in their 30's or 40's or older. Someone who does withcraft for the good of humanity, with love and light.

Young people like yourself can too easily be tempted to start learning the wrong things first, which can lead to opening all of the wrong doors and letting the wrong kind of spirits into their lives, destructive ones.

So do yourself a search on-line, and look up Pagan groups that could be in your area. Please make sure you find one whose members are goodly people.

I hope this helps,

-ADHDsux4me

Well my scary experience was the fact that i was fooling around with my friend at my grandmothershouse an old ritual where you ask a domavoi (it's a sort of a good house ghost/spirit, can be a bad one too) some questions. When we asked it nothing happend so we tried it again and we had an awnser i cant recall it anymore to be honest woth you guys only thing i remember is that i didnt try it again and i coudn't sleep for a year or so till i forgot wat it all was about. I was 8 at that time, now i'm 22 almost 23 and the growth for paranormal is growing.

And about my English, I'm Dutch m8 and long ago finished my school, so sorry for not having a native english.

And as last, i am looking for a Pagan group in Amsterdam the city i live even if it's in holland thats good too. But can't have luck in finding one, the once i found are all in England and US. And the waiting list is long lpus you have to buy allot of books of them befor you can even enter, it sounds like its a ripoff. Not sure about it either.

Well if any one can advise me on where to look it would be a start.

Try a search for Dutch Pagans,

Maybe this will help.

-ADHDsux4me

Please do yourself a favor and do not go looking into The Order of the Golden Dawn, they would only teach you things that could lead to your soul being swallowed up by the forces of evil.

I'd echo Lady V's advice and add this bit...

If your mom is into this, why don't BOTH of you explore this together? Such things are much easier when not done alone...

Vitali, there was a member a while back, whose friend had played with the ouiji board, and then later found he had an evil spirit with him. There was also a news item in a British newspaper that reported a family playing with a ouji board, had summoned and then were attacked by a fire demon. Then there are also random stories of people being attacked or possesed by evil spirits that played with ouiji boards.

What do you think I am trying to tell you?

Originally posted by ADHDsux4me
Please do yourself a favor and do not go looking into The Order of the Golden Dawn, they would only teach you things that could lead to your soul being swallowed up by the forces of evil.

Hm, interesting. Maybe you could start a 'secret society' thread on them. It'd be an interesting read I'm sure.

I would also suggest...in addition to trying to find people in your area...finding online chat groups or something of the sort. I used to live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and I know a couple of online groups that would be glad to help. Not sure if I can post their online communities here but if your interested...U2U me and I'll let you know. They are very good people and I'm still in touch with alot of them. Hope all works out for you. And yes, if anything you're researching makes you fearful...then move on to another book because that info is best left alone.....unless you want to work with the dark (which does NOT equal evil.....it's just the opposite of the light). Without the dark, there would be no light. Just be careful if you are going to work with the dark forces.....they can be sneeky and downright viscous....just a warning. I myself don't work with the darkness....just love and light....it's safer that way. Good luck.

Originally posted by Vitali

I'm thinking of letting myself in into the paranormal world, Since i was a childe I was drown by it i had a few scary experiencess with it and kinda quit trying but my urge is getting stronger and stronger.

Someone plz guide me. i want to develope this not for my own good but for all good.

Vitali
? any association with former coach D. Vitale of NC State basketball?
the paranormal world...is just that .....a large and diverse place.

if you've got time, look at this link
...(i know its a bookstore, but, where else is there for a w-i-d-e search)

you might find the 'thumbnails'/ synopsis' useful in finding that area or
niche best suiting your interests.....
you can then hook up with chats or such and also become a 'good consumer' by buying literature or courses of study or something....

all the post ahead of this one were relevent and honest and valuable

chow

First of all im not sure if magick actually exists im doing my own research for my own wisdom so far i have read in on a few books and actually i believe very little of the ones i have read so i can offer you no real advice just commonalities.

I also had the feeling of a presence or more around me possibly the positive energy of my family members for i tended to have a lot of negative energy as a child. as i figure positive does not attract positive energy just as electricity and magnetism are concerned. but me being so negative attracted positive forces in my wake and helped me make it through my childhood years as a coincidence. Mind you once i finally had a revelation in the last two or three years i found my own personal ideaoligies tended to sway to the positive and negative energy was not only drawn to me in the form of negative people but i noticed that appliances and street lights tended to fizzle out or work inproperly when i was around.

Im still in the processes of study and research because i believe what only i know to be true and never give in to the advice of others before i have had time to consider it. Lately however i have also been feeling strangely drawn to the paranormal and occult dealings of magic but i have not proceeded with any rituals or spells for fear i might screw it up and end up having a tragic misfortune at the hands of something i do not understand yet.

In my very small experiance in this area the only advice i can give you is to study hard and study excessively, if you have a day job don't quite it, and always always think before doing anything because the power of thought is the only true magick i have ever encountered as of yet.

Gazrok had an excellent suggestion about your mother and you working together. I've found that two or more people studying, researching and experimenting together -- especially if they're close -- serves more than one purpose. You'll find more and better information and will serve as each other's reality check.

Good luck!

Well this is an old thread of mine and I just wanted to update it:

I read allot of books about old religions and profets/fortunetellers.

I found out that ouja bourd is something to NOT use.

Its hard to find a group here in Holland, So i was wondering if there is any1 who is interested to get a new student, i need a coach...prefered in Holland but anywhere in europe is ok too..i can travel

Yeah, out of all the paranormal things you can do, I would say using ouiji and channelling is some of the worst things you can try. Especially for beginners. But since you seem to have changed your mind about using it, I won't go into detail .

What kind of group are you looking for? Your last post was pretty vague. Good look finding one, anyway.