What they are singing about IS the conspiracy - Once you know, you cannot unknow...

Warnining: Once you see, you cannot unsee what I show you.

Between religion and the occult, the meaning of our existence is clearly made known...that is, if you know what you are listening to from the lyrics in the music. In this world, there are two voices singing the same theme. The only thing that separates them is the polarity from which they express the story. In the end, this is the only conspiracy that exists.

For a primmer to this topic, read this thread from the Dead Sea Scrolls: Eyes Wide Open

You will also need a few thread to explain the story:

1) Origins for Dummies

2) Babylon for Dummies

3) The Son of God for Dummies

4) The Mark of the Beast for Dummies

First up, a band called Black Veil Brides and the song, Fallen Angels



---What are they singing about? To know, you need to read the links I have provided. The story of mankind involves what is hidden in the Bible about our past. It is also locked in allegory and prophecy telling us where we are headed. This group and many others are lamenting their fall from grace and rebelling against God. Much of our world is in this same state of rebellion, yet they do not know why. Each of us holds these two opposing forces in our being. If you know the mystery behind the Son of God and Babylon, you know why you are here yourself. The reason is the same above and below for all powers and principalities above; for all mortals below. First, there is God. Second, there is the Son of God. Third, we are the slices of the loaf. God is Shepherding us all. Read the links to know what I am saying here. Some are Sons of Light. Some are Sons of Darkness. An offer is extended back to the light.

Next, we have the opposite view from the group Casting Crowns. They are singing about the same story, yet from the opposite mindset. From this view, the solution to the conspiracy against God is proclaimed as the solution we can freely choose. It's a choice we make both with words and actions.



Next, Rush chooses free will over that of the authority of God. Here is my thread on this song: THREAD

Lyrics

You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill
I will choose a path that's clear
I will choose freewill



Is choosing our own free will the choice to make? Do we lose our free will if we over come the law of sin and death? Is there a paradox to possessing free will, yet governing it by the law of love for others? What is it God will judge between when he returns to judge all things?

From another Christian Group, here is a story of God's authority and why it is necessary.




Back to the Black Veil Brides (LYRICS)



Who will tell the story of your life in the end? Will your life have value? What gives a life value?

The next group can answer this question for you. Remember, the story is the same between the two polarities of music. Which side of this single coin is the problem and which is the solution? As you listen to this last song, remember what you have read in the links above. The fallen angels (you and me) are in chains of darkness now. What is our future and do we know the way home?



Somewhere in this thread, the answer to the conspiracy is found. Don't be so sure you know which answer is correct.

I like the phrase "once you know, you can't unknow".

Sorry, but I don't like any of the music posted, but maybe others do. I can't listen to it and see the connection if I don't like it. I think of other music that "makes me see though" like Hotel California: You can check out, but you can never leave...






And Iron Maiden, kinda scary song: Iron Maiden the number of the beast with lyrics

reply to post by EnochWasRight


Thanks for this post! Very interesting! Glorious Day and Amazing Grace are two of my favorite songs. I admire your courage as no doubt the trolls will be lurking about. Stay strong and God Bless!

reply to post by britelite1971


Thank you for the words and the character pointing to the solution. I wanted to add this from RUMI, so I'll use it in reply to your post. It explains it all and gives the solution that is hidden, yet out in the open.

RUMI

Why freewill is good for man.
God said, "Do thou grant his earnest request,
Enlarge his faculty according to his freewill.
Freewill is as the salt to piety,
Otherwise heaven itself were matter of compulsion.
In its revolutions reward and punishment were needless,
For 'tis freewill that has merit at the great reckoning.
If the whole world were framed to praise God,
There would be no merit in praising God.
Place a sword in his hand and remove his impotence,
To see if he turns out a warrior or a robber.
Because freewill is that wherewith 'we honor Adam,' 1
Half the swarm become bees and half wasps.
The faithful yield honeycombs like bees,
The infidels yield store of poison like wasps.
For the faithful feed on choice herbs,
So that, like bees, their chyle yields life-giving food,
Whilst infidels feed on filth and garbage,
And generate poison according to their food."
Men inspired of God are the fountain of life;
Men of delusions are a synonym for death.
In the world the praise "Well done faithful servant!"
Is given to freewill which is used with prudence.
If all dissolute men were shut up in prison,
They would all be temperate and devout and pious.
When power of choice is absent actions are worthless;
But beware lest death snatch away your capital!
Your power of choice is a capital yielding profit,
Remember well the day of final account!

Free will allows light to reveal what it hits.

RUMI

When the BELOVED shows not the light of His countenance?
LOVE desires that this secret should be revealed,
For if a mirror reflects not, of what use is it?
Knowest thou why thy mirror reflects not?
Because the rust has not been scoured from its face.

You are the image of God, the mirror of what He reveals. Simply clean the mirror and you have made the only choice that matters. God's will is the choice. His will is to give and receive by the law of Love. The thief takes. As far as I can see, this is the only choice of free will that is possible.

Where do you find that choice? Christ asked us to take His name. The name is the character we take. Taking the name in vain is taking the name and not the character. Love is that character.

Quoted from here: Quoted from Here...

reply to post by tinker9917


Yes. The very same topic. We CAN check out. The conspiracy would love to keep that hidden.

It's a critical solution
And the east coast got the blues
It's a mass of confusion
Like the lies they sell to you

You got a glass jawed toothache
Of a mental disease
An they be runnin' round back
See 'em line up on their knees
Cause the kiss *** sycophants
Throwin' penance at your feet

When they got nowhere to go
Watch 'em come in off the streets
While they're bangin' out front
Inside their slammin' to the cruch
Go on an throw me to the lions
And the whole damn screamin' bunch
Cause the pissed-off rip-offs
Are' everywhere you turn
Tell me how a generation's
Ever s'posed to learn
This fire is burnin'
And it's out of control
It's not a problem you can stop
It's rock n' roll

I read it on a wall
It went straight to my head
It said Dance to the tension
Of a world on edge
We got racial violence
And who'll cast the first stone
And sex is used anyway it can be
Sometimes when I look out
It's hard to see the day
It's a feelin' you can have it
It's not mine to take away

Lost in the garden of Eden
Said we're lost in the garden of Eden
And there's no one's gonna believe this
But we're lost in the garden of Eden
This fire is burnin'
And it's out of control
It's not a problem you can stop
It's rock n' roll
Suck on that

Looking through this point of view
There's no way I'm gonna fit in
Don't ya tell me what my eyes see
Don't ya tell me who to believe in
I ain't superstitious
But I know when somethin's wrong
I've been draggin' my heels
With a ***** called hope
Let the undercurrent drag me along

Lost in the garden of Eden
Said we're lost in the garden of Eden
And there's no one's gonna believe this
But we're lost in the garden of Eden

Most organized religions make
A mockery of humanity
Our governments are dangerous
And out of control
The garden of Eden is just another graveyard
Said if they had someone to buy it
Said I'm sure they'd sell my soul

This fire is burnin'
And it's out of control
It's not a problem you can stop
It's rock n' roll
Lost in the garden of Eden
(An we ain't talkin' about no poison apple or some missin' rib ya hear)
Said we're lost in the garden of Eden
And there's no one's gonna believe this
Said we're lost in the garden of Eden
This fire is burnin'
And it's out of control
It's not a problem you can stop
It's rock n' roll

reply to post by EnochWasRight


Free Will was God's choice...

How can you say Rush or anyone who chooses Free Will as being against God?

Freedom, Liberty, meaning they do not trample anyone else's Freedom.

Do you think God is Slavery and Chains of Bondage?
Are you sure the Liar with the Lyre isn't fooling you?

unless you are over forty..
then you will forget about it.

Then what has been known
has become unknown!

muzzleflash
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

Free Will was God's choice...

How can you say Rush or anyone who chooses Free Will as being against God?

Freedom, Liberty, meaning they do not trample anyone else's Freedom.

Do you think God is Slavery and Chains of Bondage?
Are you sure the Liar with the Lyre isn't fooling you?

Yes. Free will was a plan engaged by God. I agree. Rush's lyrics are clear. The reasoning behind the end times is the fact that God has not stopped us. He will only stop our authority at the last minute.

Matthew 24

22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.

Also, there is an overall plan. That plan is outlined in 1 Corinthians 15:

20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.”[c] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

What did I mean when I stated this in the OP?

"Somewhere in this thread, the answer to the conspiracy is found. Don't be so sure you know which answer is correct. "

reply to post by EnochWasRight


What do you mean?
You want me to just say it flat out?

Janus or All, has two faces while still being only ONE.

You have the up and the down, the free slave.

God = Enslaves All into Free Will
Paradox.

The Whip of Liberty cracks.

reply to post by EnochWasRight


I don't agree with the bands per se, or anything like that.

But I discovered God's Grand Loop Hole.
All = One = 0

So no matter what "false image" one is fooled by, they are all the Great Masquerade and God plays every role and even set the scene.

I ain't fooled no more.
This is All a Scripted Play
And only One is behind the drape pulling these strings.

muzzleflash
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

I don't agree with the bands per se, or anything like that.

But I discovered God's Grand Loop Hole.
All = One = 0

So no matter what "false image" one is fooled by, they are all the Great Masquerade and God plays every role and even set the scene.

I ain't fooled no more.
This is All a Scripted Play
And only One is behind the drape pulling these strings.

What you are saying with JANUS and the "God is One" version of existence is somewhat true. Atonement is At One Ment. Our own two faces become one, just as all Chiral objects coalesce. This is the point of two becoming one flesh. The only way for something to be imaged from the original is for the new thing to have individuation. Your version seems to suggest God is looking in a mirror. The true version is much more incomprehensible than a simple explanation can render. There is a plan that ends in fellowship with one God, yet allowing for the parts to be different from the whole. This is God's sacrifice for us. In the end, we are drawn back again, yet never required to give our Son up for sacrifice. Abraham is the key to this in the story of Issac. He never had to give the Son up for sacrifice. There was a substitute given.

Yes, God is in all things and the origin of all things, but you cannot comprehend what God is. The sacrifice of the first soul for us is the marvel of what was given to us through the Son of God. Individuation requires involution of what is made so that it can rise to new life of its own. Unless we are involved in a reality (what is real), we cannot exist as separate from God. It's a gift given to us. This is far from a trick by God or a grand masquerade. It's much more.


1 Corinthians 13

When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

reply to post by EnochWasRight


Thanks for the good reply.

I was thinking about Halloween as a good example of the paradox.

Everyone looks like a monster but we all know its just kids playing.

So the grand deception is very thin and shallow.
It is God's Children unknowingly celebrating the infinite masks of the One and Only.

Without the Dark we wouldn't have the Light.

Anyhow thanks for responding thoughtfully.
I like that.