Landed flying saucers from earlier today

I read somewhere about this "tunnler." Is it not nuclear powered? I saw one of these in a photograph with a group of men standing around and on it. Looked almost like a train. I believe it had a United States Air Force sigil on it, if memory serves.

What is a "Moderator"?
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2 : one who presides over an assembly, meeting, or discussion: as a : the presiding officer of a Presbyterian governing body b : the nonpartisan presiding officer of a town meeting c : the chairman of a discussion group

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: not partisan; especially : free from party affiliation, bias, or designation

Just Where is the " Moderation" When the "Moderators" Themselves Contribute to a threads Infection by "Partisans"

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How can ATS Make anyone join and feel this forum has open minded community members by allowing instantanius, unprovoked bashing of any new material?

To Bad, It Was off to Such A Good Start, unfortunatly it appears the member fulcrum is quickly falling to the PARTISAN COMUNITY

Originally posted by instar
Hi Woodsyboy, wow what a long thread. Intresting pics but frustratingly
poor quality. Day shots does make it look as tho you just caught the houses but, the houses do seem to me to be a little further away in the day shot than the objects in the first pics. Also in the day shots I see what looks like tire marks on the ground. This effect happens when my rellys park there cars on my beautiful lawn.
Is it possible that there were dark colored cars parked in there, maybe other kids chuffing (smoking)?
Either way, even if you had a really excellent well lit shot, you destroyed your credibility by telling us you were blasted at the time

Still I keep an open mind, murphys law dictates that if anyone manages to capture image/s of a real ufo, that they will be:
(a) stoned or otherwised drugged out
(b) drunk
(c) too far away
(d) a lousy photographer
(e) clumsy and shoot a pic of there thumb instead or
(f) In the dark without a flash
(g) Someone who regularly "sees" things!
Keep trying with a decent camera, who knows, maybe one day someone will get "THE" pic!

If I took a photo of a real UFO and was stoned or even tripping on acid you couldnt say that I was just seeing things. And also, a flash from a camera phone wouldnt do sh*t to illuminate anything further than 5 feet or so.

can we please keep this thread on topic and keep the tunneling through rocks discussion for another thread.
Only post if you have something new to add to the discussion in hand.
The conduct of some members on this thread has been noted.

Thank you Pantha, I as well as a few undisclosed others were beginning to think the days of the good honest post were being pushed out for a bashing agenda, please follow it and nurse it back to health cuz it took a severe collision on the very 1st page, now being at page 18 and several black eyes later I dont know that the thread itself can be salvaged, but it has been allowed to continue for so long now it would appear its not the integrity of the thread thats at stake but more the integrity of the forum as a whole at this point!!!!

Thanks for the help

Those sure look like saucers to me! If I were an alien I would most certainly cloak my vessle as a house in order for it not to be detected! Think about it!

How can ATS Make anyone join and feel this forum has open minded community members by allowing instantanius, unprovoked bashing of any new material?

People are allowed to criticize.

When it elevated beyond criticism, and reached personal attacks, Warns (multiple) were issued because of behavior in this thread, U2U admonishments, even reminders in the thread to get it back on track (and for both skeptics and believers I might add). And much of this was from Mods not even over this forum...so I'm not sure where you're getting at.

Shy of locking or trashing this thread and banning members, I fail to see the lack of moderation here... Such childish antics weren't edited out (from either side) as they only served to demean that member/s' arguments in front of the membership.

Wow i go away for almost a week and this thread is still alive, i thought everyone would have left this to die.

Need to read from the last time i posted because i think i have missed some interesting stuff!

Originally posted by CmptrNerd5

Originally posted by instar
Hi Woodsyboy, wow what a long thread. Intresting pics but frustratingly
poor quality. Day shots does make it look as tho you just caught the houses but, the houses do seem to me to be a little further away in the day shot than the objects in the first pics. Also in the day shots I see what looks like tire marks on the ground. This effect happens when my rellys park there cars on my beautiful lawn.
Is it possible that there were dark colored cars parked in there, maybe other kids chuffing (smoking)?
Either way, even if you had a really excellent well lit shot, you destroyed your credibility by telling us you were blasted at the time

Still I keep an open mind, murphys law dictates that if anyone manages to capture image/s of a real ufo, that they will be:
(a) stoned or otherwised drugged out
(b) drunk
(c) too far away
(d) a lousy photographer
(e) clumsy and shoot a pic of there thumb instead or
(f) In the dark without a flash
(g) Someone who regularly "sees" things!
Keep trying with a decent camera, who knows, maybe one day someone will get "THE" pic!

If I took a photo of a real UFO and was stoned or even tripping on acid you couldnt say that I was just seeing things. And also, a flash from a camera phone wouldnt do sh*t to illuminate anything further than 5 feet or so.

My point was that even if you took a good shot while stoned or otherwise off your face and admitted as such, your credibility goes out the window. Folk will assume its fake and thatyour dishonest or unreliable witness etc.
Overall, no photo will ever be accepted as proof due to the fact they can be tampered with, even video ive seen that looked incredibly real to me was poo pooed by so called experts as having been faked.

Originally posted by Iwunder
Just Where is the " Moderation" When the "Moderators" Themselves Contribute to a threads Infection by "Partisans"

Only one definition above requires 'non partisanship' and even then , merely having an opinion doesn't make one partisan. Besides, the moderators are moderating to keep things in line, not control one set of ideas or another. So by voicing their opinions they aren't being partisan on what they are supposed to be unpartisan about.

How can ATS Make anyone join and feel this forum has open minded community members by allowing instantanius, unprovoked bashing of any new material?

There was not instant bashing. THere was well warranted and scepticism. All that was provided was a story and a very grainy cameraphone pic. When the daylight pics were presented, it was found that there were some objects that could've accounted for the nightime objects. Strangely enough, the story did change a little after that. So why is it bashing to state that the whole thing smacks of fraud? Its a valid conclusion that one can make, and so what if some people feel about it strongly, since when does everything have to be discussion completely dispasionately? Both the pro and the con side in this thread are passionate about it, why should that be discouraged? And what has any moderator done that is a failure of their job as moderator? Making their own conclusions, and being civil about their presentation of it?

one exhibiting blind, prejudiced, and unreasoning allegiance

By the very definitions that you have chosen the moderator involved here are not partisan, and neither are most of the people involved in this thread. Only a few blindly and unreasonably accepted the first photo as 'amazing proof of aliens' and only a few refused to listen to reason and predjudiciously stated that these photos were hoaxed, even when the only evidence relavant to hoazxing was not supportive of photoediting.


All that can be said about this entire thread is that there were two sets of photos, the story that went along with them is secondary. Does anyone disagree that there are some things in the daylight photo that could acccount for some of the objects in the night photo? Does anyone disagree that not every object can be accounted for? Does anyone here think that camera phones can penetrate alien cloaking devices by that way?

I think alien cloack devices (being the super intelligent beings they are) can be declocked by a nokia phone..... SAYS ME SARCASTICALLY!!!

Come on people if he had really caught UFOs on camera wouldnt he be going back theyre to get more?? this could mean more money for a reward then his Bud addiction would be OK.

Also if you were smokin weed in a park in the dark of the night heard a noise would you aim your camera?? Just him and his mate, it could have been a big group of "thugged out G's" (like me lol) when your paranoid off weed you wouldn't do it. I wouldn't an i smoke like hell.

THIS ONES FOR MY LIL GREEN HOMIES............. SOME GOOD CHRONIC

After seeing the day time photos, I can clearly see the shape of the houses exactley matches the shape of the "UFOS". However, thanks for posting the day and night photos. The night photos are really cool pictures and I would hang on to them if I were you, they would be exellent converation starters at a party.

Just out of curiosity, i just took my kodak cx7300 digi cam outside to snap some pics of the sky, with intresting results! The first was taken in normal mode and the second using "nightshot" mode. As you can see, the "static"/noise/alien cloaking device effect is evident here, therefore likely something to do with low lighting.
Intrestingly in the 2nd shot, some "planets" can be seen along with a "moon" that was not there when i took the shot. At the bottom right hand corner you can see another light, this is a power pole with street light. Its totally overcast out there, all cloud. no idea how the "moon" got there. Im sure if anyone can be bothered they could work out the phase of the moon right now as seen in the southern hemisphere. further im in sydney nsw (east coast of Australia).
Enjoy

hey peeps jus bin readin some replys to this frightingly monstrous thread went back ther last night, thought we'd make it a fair test by smoking the same variety of green at the same amount at around the same time didnt hear anything wierd soz no pics i didnt hav my fone on me..
Woodsyboy

Originally posted by instar
Just out of curiosity, i just took my kodak cx7300 digi cam outside to snap some pics of the sky, with intresting results! The first was taken in normal mode and the second using "nightshot" mode. As you can see, the "static"/noise/alien cloaking device effect is evident here, therefore likely something to do with low lighting.
Intrestingly in the 2nd shot, some "planets" can be seen along with a "moon" that was not there when i took the shot. At the bottom right hand corner you can see another light, this is a power pole with street light. Its totally overcast out there, all cloud. no idea how the "moon" got there. Im sure if anyone can be bothered they could work out the phase of the moon right now as seen in the southern hemisphere. further im in sydney nsw (east coast of Australia).
Enjoy

Good post Instar, although you do realise that it will be largely ignored by the guys who are desperate to see UFOs in any picture they are shown.
The pics that Woodsy posted here are just typical of many night shots taken with a long exposure time - you end up seeing things that you cant see with the naked eye - you only have to point your camera at the stars to prove this as it will show you many more stars than you can see with the naked eye when on a long exposure.

The pic that woody posted shows houses, that is pretty much clear to anyone with eyes in there head - it's only because they have been posted on a UFO forum that people have seen flying saucers - if they had been posted on any other forum on the net they would have been classified as houses. Even if there are trees in front of them that make them almost invisible during the day then there is a very good chance that you could still see them at night, even clearer as the light filters through the trees (rememeber there are not many leaves on the trees this time of year.) the cameras long exposure would show the bright houses through the dark trees.

That's if the camera has been pointed in the same direction for both the night time and day time pics, which I dont think it has judging by the branches in the foreground.

But then that's just me being a "non-believer," I am sure that house-shaped flying saucers are quite common at this time of year.

[edit on 23-11-2004 by BeyondBelief]

Ugh! What a terrible image resolution!!!

Can't you people just go get a cheap, decent digital camera instead of using such crappy picture technology such as camera phones for taking images of... parked flying saucers??? Please stop buying these camera phones nonsense.

Hello Peps ,Hey Wood ,
Nobody will ever be happy.Even if you had E.T.s Sitting in lawn chairs waiting on ya in area you took pics from last time .The only way i think if anyone believed anything is many landed at one time everywhere .Would peps believe anything.Like see it to believe it stuff .
You can go out where u smoked that nite .Take all pics u want the rest of your life ~~I seen 6 UFOs i was 11 riding my horse in Miami .It was in the dark walking home from feeding my horse .That i seen 6 ufos .And i had missing time like 2 hours .And i was with my best friend .Told my dad and my mom they didnt believe me beat my bottom .Was trying to tell them what i seen and nothing .Nobody believed us .So i know how ya feel .I have seen UFOs ALL MY LIFE ~~~Litocean~~~
And all the guys i go out with tell me oh yeah sure ~~~Well Wood like i said these peps do not need proof they will never get it .Trust me love your on your own .And people that are on your side .They already seen UFOs long time ago when they were kids .You can bet on it .And as for you Wood just be yourself .When you have time to post any kind of cool pics do it matters not to people that do not believe .You made a name here and smile ~~~You did the very best you could love ~~~And thanks for your time and hope you have a very nice Thanksgiving ~~And i really think your something else .And for all you other peps put your pic on here like Wood did and say what he did i bet ya you do not .This kid put his picture on here come on .Kids from school seen this guy and maybe even goverment too .You really think this is all fake God Sake get real please .Im sick of this B.S. Wood did what anyone else did smoke or drink to come here and post .Because i had to drink 3 beers to hit this place .To post because of you guys are so lame ~~Hell you cut down everyone who is different .Trying to ask for advice or if anyone seen what they seen.And this guy came here .And thought wow this is a neat site and you guys ate him up like a freaking shark you guys suc--- well matters not ~~~Hope you got off on all the B.S. you dish out ~~~

Well, after spending over an hour reading all 19 pages of this post, I think that there is something to this. I have seen many a digital camera or camcorder react to UV or Infra-red light and cause many of the same things. Digital cameras are still fairly new and people still don't know just what these things can capture, the old 35mm camera just captured light on the visiable spectrum. Woodsy, keep up the work, it'll pay off in the end. -muzz

woodsboy, you left without out your phone, doh! oh well i know i have done that a many times, we still are just dying for another pic of the area at night, and btw i am a beliver

Well, .............INSTAR's night pic looks like a ufo to.....SO, I am now believing that woodsy's pics ARE the houses......they just look ~SO ODD~ but instar has shown that night pics of a house will resemble an odd UFO.

Good job INSTAR

Im STILL hoping that Woodsy will post another NEW set of night shots just so we can be sure.......but I also believe instar has made a VALID point.

Woodsy DONT leave this all alone yet.............show us more pics and settle this for all of us, yourself included. Its a great thread!