Stenographer dragged from House floor while shouting about Freemasonry and God

reply to post by Kangaruex4Ewe


I think you answered your own question. Like some said, she had a rare moment with a powerful mic. She either chose to look crazy or she is crazy.

I am not really a religious person, oh who am I kidding, I am not religious at all.

However I do not discount some intelligence behind creation, just don't think it happened exactly as the bible states it did, I am not trolling the religious folks, just being honest.

The ole lady however believes and I was telling her this story last night, when I looked it up, I read about someone interviewing the lady (Cant recall her name) afterwards and she "claimed" the holy spirit had been talking to her for two and a half weeks.

It just seems odd to me this lady, who is married with two kids and no history of mental illness out of the blue claims someone has been talking to her nightly and then she stands up for the whole nation to see and very publicly throws away her career to state a message.

I don't know what to think about it but there is no doubt she believed in what she was saying, although I thought the Constitution was written, in part, to protect religious freedom. Not necessarily towards any particular deity.

Sounds to me like she has a problem with the Pledge of Allegiance, which was wrote long after the Constitution was drafted.

BO XIAN
Pure spirit only?

Yes. Pure spirit only. That's basic theology.
Therefore, no angel DNA could possibly be anywhere.
There isn't any.

How is it that angels in the Old Testament ate with Abraham . . . Lot . . . ???

1 - The peasants confused aliens with angels.
2 - Prove that Abraham even existed. Chances are ... his story is pure folklore.
DId Abraham Exist

What are Angels ?

Angels are created spirits, without bodies, having understanding and free will.

(a) Reason alone cannot prove that the angels exist. Reason indicates, however, that just as there are purely material creatures, and creatures composed of both matter and spirit, so also it is fitting that there should be purely spiritual creatures.

(b) Angels are spiritual beings inferior to God and superior to man.

(c) Sacred Scripture frequently speaks of the angels and mentions three by name: the Archangels Michael, Gabriel, and Raphael.

(d) The nine "choirs" of angels are the Seraphim, Cherubim, Thrones, Dominations, Virtues, Powers, Principalities, Archangels, and Angels.

(e) The exact number of angels is unknown, but Sacred Scripture indicates that their number is very great.

The Holy Angels - Pure Spirit

What are angels made of?

Each angel whom God has made is a unique being, says Saint Thomas Aquinas in his book Summa Theologica: "Since angels have in them no matter or bodiliness at all, for they are pure spirits, they are not individuated. This means that each angel is the only one of its kind. It means that each angel is a species or essential kind of substantial being. Hence each angel is essentially different from every other angel."

Matthew 22:30 - At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

Angels are holy. They do not sin so they don't have sex outside of marriage. Marriage is for procreation. If there is procreation, then it would be within marriage. Angels do not marry and so do not have sex. They have no sexual organs. They do not have babies because God alone made angels. Angels do not have bodies to have sex with. They are pure spirit and were created by God. They were not created with the ability to procreate since God made all the angels Himself.

Angels according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church

330 As purely spiritual creatures angels have intelligence and will: they are personal and immortal creatures, surpassing in perfection all visible creatures, as the splendor of their glory bears witness.

read here - THE SUPPOSED PROCREATION IN THE OLD TESTAMENT BETWEEN "ANGELS AND HUMANS

The idea that the Sons of Elohim were angels comes largely from the book of Enoch, which is rejected by Jewish and Christian scholars alike. This book was written shortly after 200 B.C.E. The pseudonymous author doubtlessly received this notion from Greek mythology.

One more impossibility that people overlook who advocate that angels procreated with the daughters of men is the fact that Yahweh never designed angels to reproduce other life. Yahshua in Matthew 22:30 plainly said that angels neither marry or are given in marriage, "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of Elohim in heaven."

Yahshua very plainly and without debate stated that angels are not given in marriage, thus indicating that Yahweh never gave them the ability to procreate within their own realm, much less with humankind. When Yahweh placed the man, Adam, within the Garden of Eden and then made the woman from Adam’s own rib he stated that they were to multiply this on earth with other human life.

Yahweh left no question on whether or not mankind could procreate. Not only did Yahweh say that mankind had the ability to create other life, but He commanded that mankind do such. Again, we cannot find one shred of evidence within Yahweh’s inspired word to neither indicate that angels had nor have the ability to procreate other life.

Christian Answers

No, angels are not glorified human beings. Matthew 22:30 explains that they do not marry or reproduce like humans, and Hebrews 12:22-23 says that when we get to the heavenly Jerusalem, we will be met by “myriads of angels” and “the spirits of righteous men made perfect”—two separate groups.

Angels are a company or association, not a race descended from a common ancestor (Luke 20:34-36). We are called “sons of men,” but angels are never called “sons of angels.”

Since this is a bit off the topic, I've started a thread on the subject ...
To Be Clear, Angels Do Not Procreate With Humans

robhines
she saw a psychiatrist for 45 mins then went home. There's plenty of details on the whole thing here : www.thedailybeast.com...

According to the article .... she had been stressed by the shut down ... she had many sleepless nights before the outburst ... the psychologist said she could go home which means he doesnt' think she's a threat to herself or others, but that's not a 'clean bill of mental health' .... and the psychologist said she needs to follow up with her primary care physician for a medical check up (in case there is a physical problem causing mental health issues).

So supposedly God wanted this woman to become jobless and give up her income, and throw away her career (no one will hire her after this) ... all so she could shout about God and Masonry for a minute or two?? I really don't see that as the work of the Holy Spirit. I can see it the work of the human spirit ... a human being too stressed out. I can see it the work of an evil spirit ... making Christianity look ridiculous and ruining a persons life. But the Holy Spirit?? It could be, but I'm just not seeing it.

Well the Communist planks established in America are truly taking hold. Religious zeal is now a mental disorder. Well done land of the free, home of the brave.

If this woman had shouted "death to taxes and yada yada" some other purely materialistic bull, she'd be hailed a hero. We're taught that the world will hate us. They'll hate the message and the messenger. Yes this woman could have delivered this a little better, but so what? She has faith and it probably burst out of her. She's probably had to, like I have to, hold this in because people laugh at her.

Good for her. I hope she's treated well.

SuperFrog
I am still lost at what is your point... what truth??

That Freemasonry doesn't serve any masters let alone two. Most don't know much about masons and some wild things are said about us. Turns out, we are quite normal. (relatively speaking)

reply to post by A T K


OMG!!!! After 7 years seeing above top secret at least 1's a week has a what you call a "lurker" i had to do a registration today to this site to say this:

are u guys so blind ?? how many of this post's in this what u call "thread" are trying to disbelieve this women has delusional ?? so this women just happen to think wtf, i'm just going to ruin my life and say something crazy... can't u guys see in here ATS are some kind of control about the information and desinformation ?? if u guys can't see it just became lurker like myself to see it through.

reply to post by A T K


That voice talks to me know and then, OH its not a god, its more like common sense, reasoning and a form of consciences.

For someone to listen to the insanity that goes on in government day in and day out and not be effected by it would probably need the help of a god, but then you have to deal with the devil to...don't ya ??

reply to post by justwitis


What ??????

Second.

reply to post by MOMof3


she is NOT crazy, she is courageous

Dan Reidy said Dianne “didn’t want to do it” but had also become “sickened” by the shutdown mess.

“The alliances between people who aren’t really allies. The finger-pointing on the dais, [then] the arms around each other … Where are the people being served in this whole deal?” he said. “She was just like, ‘Gosh, this is not what it’s about.’”

www.theblaze.com... -a-message/

reply to post by Joneselius

Well the Communist planks established in America are truly taking hold. Religious zeal is now a mental disorder. Well done land of the free, home of the brave.

Exactly, they immediately take her for an evaluation ?

I would like to know if she had a choice in this matter or was she forced to have an evaluation/deprogramming.

The timing was perfect and well thought out, when could she ever again have such a large audience?

reply to post by Stormdancer777


She did not reveal anything we did not already know. Instead of focusing on her message, she just appeared crazy to those of us who are not religious. Now, if she had taken the mic with fact sheets, like wikileakes, that would be different.

A T K
This just aired live on C-Span, audio & video.

edit on 16-10-2013 by A T K because: added video

America is not now a nation under God. It had it's roots in God but it has abandoned God for money and greed. It doesn't like God or Jesus and the people of this land that feel the same way think that this is a good thing.

Freemasons had their part to play in the construction of the USA. They were creating a nation that was secular in nature with the ideal that there was a God, but no God as most understand that word to mean. They meant power, and that power would be the State, or in this case the central government. The word God as used by them is a double speak meaning and simply refers to supreme or all powerful. That means political power and money.

However, the every day person accepted to concept of a nation under God (Creator God).

Some of the lies that go unnoticed are:

1. That America is a peace loving nation.
2. That the troops are doing the honorable thing for which we should be proud.
3. That there is no debt crisis.
4. That we as a people are actually free.

America is in the process of changing into what the founders had envisioned. A secular state where power is god and obedience and loyalty to the state is worship to that god.

A few days ago, the congress decided to honor the god of money and power. Even those who said they opposed it still prostituted themselves in service to the power and money god and voted in favor of more debt.

So, why did that woman say what she did? because she had to sit and listen to the whoredom of congressmen selling their honor for kickbacks, sleazy deals, and personal gain and power. She had had enough. That is why she said "You cannot serve God and money." by saying you cannot serve two masters.

And just so you know, it's too late to stop the juggernaut. There building the utopian secular society. Most all of the recent presidents were either masons or related masons by degree, order, or code, or by fraternity. As are a lot of the nuts and bolts people of the government. You can check that out for yourselves.

Carry on...

MOMof3
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

She did not reveal anything we did not already know. Instead of focusing on her message, she just appeared crazy to those of us who are not religious. Now, if she had taken the mic with fact sheets, like wikileakes, that would be different.

It depends if you understand the message.

Current events in Washington D.C.
remind me of the beginning of
The Road Warrior which showed
the collapse of society.

The narrator intones "they talked
and talked........." but agreements
were never reached. This is over black
and white shots of fist shaking at the
United Nations and Congress.

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the person that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

Plato (c.427 - 347 BC)

You don't have to be a Christians to see that the lunatics are running the asylum.

this is somebody who has been in the belly of the beast, she said the house was divided.


A house divided against itself cannot stand. She is talking about the downfall of America, when you under the spirit of conviction,

this,

when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say:

For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

Fromabove
Freemasons had their part to play in the construction of the USA. They were creating a nation that was secular in nature with the ideal that there was a God, but no God as most understand that word to mean. They meant power, and that power would be the State, or in this case the central government. The word God as used by them is a double speak meaning and simply refers to supreme or all powerful. That means political power and money.

Um....no. Historically challenged.
Learn first, speak second.

chronicTRE
reply to post by network dude

 

This post really bothered me. You obviously know completely nothing about being a Christian. Get your head out of your ass.

It is in no way a cult, I've never been taught anything that didn't involve loving and caring for one another, people of all colours and religions, even homosexuals. How does that run parallel with you current theory of what a born again Christian believes and is taught? At my current church, everyone knows I smoke a lot of pot, and they all love and accept me and don't judge me for it whatsoever. (I have my medical license before you start calling me a stoner).

Talking down on Christians for no reason makes you look like a moron, we aren't all the Westboro Baptist nutjobs so don't you dare generalize us as all the same.

I do find it strange... If I could prove alcahol could treat my anxiety and they gave me a license to make my own booze... Would you call me a drunk if I drank a #load a day?

Tazkven


It just seems odd to me this lady, who is married with two kids and no history of mental illness out of the blue claims someone has been talking to her nightly and then she stands up for the whole nation to see and very publicly throws away her career to state a message.

Excellent perception and critical thinking.

Some people don't have the depth to think through something like this, but rather disregard the matter as "Well she is just nuts!".

I feel it doesn't add up either.