Boeing caught selling used parts as new to Pentagon

Boeing caught selling used parts as new to Pentagon

According to a report obtained by Bloomberg News,“Boeing significantly overstated estimates” of new components necessary for the CH-47F Chinook helicopters and “primarily installed used parts instead” under a $4.4 billion contract awarded in 2008. Instead of delivering the new pieces it told the Army were necessary, Boeing restored parts from older aircraft and installed those in their place.

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I wonder how much money the congress and military made.

reply to post by amraks


A Boeing exec, and the heads of three smaller companies were recently caught defrauding Boeing by overestimating contracts. This could be tied to that. With the problems Boeing has had in the past, I'm almost not surprised by this.

The military doesn't make any money off this. Boeing would keep any extra profit made by using the older parts (Congress doesn't make any money off it either).

Zaphod58
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A Boeing exec, and the heads of three smaller companies were recently caught defrauding Boeing by overestimating contracts. This could be tied to that. With the problems Boeing has had in the past, I'm almost not surprised by this.

The military doesn't make any money off this. Boeing would keep any extra profit made by using the older parts (Congress doesn't make any money off it either).

edit on 10/16/2013 by Zaphod58 because: (no reason given)

but makes me wonder if there where some higher ups remaining hush hush, with Boeing paying them off.

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Ever heard of a kick back??

kick·back
ˈkikˌbak
noun
noun: kick-back
1.
a sudden forceful recoil.
"the kickback from the gun punches your shoulder"
synonyms: recoil, kick, rebound More
2.
informal
a payment made to someone who has facilitated a transaction or appointment, esp. illicitly.

A situation like this is hardly a surprise. It's all about the bottom line with these people, man.

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yeah, but think of it this way.

Every dollar if actually given to infrastructure in the US, or in defence, or in education could make us that much stronger.

Imagine that instead of giving to already wealthy people, that we built up a single generation of titans, what a country, / world we could live in.

If every trillion dollars spent on BS, were actually driven towards making a people that history couldnt blink towards....something that would change human nature.

The actual American dream.

Everything we were capable of, our true potential....fulfilled.

Instead its like a fat kid ruining a birthday by eating the cake, and dying of a heart attack. Or a fat guy eating a wedding cake and ruining a wedding. So many just go home.....empty. Like the thing never happened.

The party is almost over and all we have is a bad memory.

We could have had a moment here. A powerful country that came and didnt just go........

powerful enough to change the human condition. A species wise enough to last forever, instead of riding on the nostalgia of a couple thousand years. That is all we have, and probably will ever have as a species. Maybe a few thousand more.....

crap.

Nothing,

No cake, no party.

reply to post by tadaman


It had to come... I just hoped it would have the manners to await my passing from old age before it arrived. It's all been in decline for a long time though. Recent men and events just kicked it into a higher gear, eh? I don't think they even changed direction of this beast. They just accelerated it, is all.

Rome.. Greece.. We're in good company. Even Istanbul was once Constantinople. See what happened there?

meh.. People really believed we'd be the exception. That it couldn't happen to us, no matter how foolish we became... We just got drunk with power from World War II is what I think it ultimately is. 1945 could have brought a Sea Change to the world....and instead it just made 1000 ways to kill someone, 1001.

I notice Newegg is featuring more and more "refurbished" items.

This last 2012 Holiday Black Friday and Christmas/after sales were mostly refurbished items.

USA is just a second hand nation now it seems...

The components in our vehicles and electronics are seeing exceptionally high fail rates!!

amraks
Boeing caught selling used parts as new to Pentagon

According to a report obtained by Bloomberg News,“Boeing significantly overstated estimates” of new components necessary for the CH-47F Chinook helicopters and “primarily installed used parts instead” under a $4.4 billion contract awarded in 2008. Instead of delivering the new pieces it told the Army were necessary, Boeing restored parts from older aircraft and installed those in their place.

Source Here

I wonder how much money the congress and military made.

This ought to result in a considerable number of beheadings so people police themselves next time.

Not beheading people like this is like saying:

Go ahead and do as thou will. There will be no consequences whatsoever, even if you are caught.

No deterrent.

Gaol is not a deterrent.

A good ole Beheading is.

I know those airplane part certificates, packaging etc is all super regulated too.

So somebody is glitching the matrix...

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As typical with all too many threads on ATS this one starts with a news story and then instantly channels us away from what should be the main consideration, the Big Picture in other words.



Bear wit me here. The bulk of my argument is not off topic. It comes from my email yesterday to Bloomberg's author of that article.

"If you were to research the UFO incident over Belgium in 1989, you will have good reason to believe there is something very unusual moving through our skies for the last few decades.
Over that time period, the typical UFO shape has been largely replaced by a triangular-shaped craft that moves in the air but does not appear to fly as a true “AIRcraft.”

"Once a determination is made that there was a very mysterious object visually witnessed, captured on radar and chased by fighter jets, then a key question arises.

"Are these triangle craft true alien UFOs or are they craft of our own design (if taken from genuine UFO principles)?
If you allow that they are domestic craft, then it follows to wonder who built them.

"The general consensus is that the three, major US aerospace companies of Boeing, Lockheed and Northrop, along with probably GE, are the manufactures of these devices.

"These craft are the epitome of the greatest weapon ever developed, far more important in general warfare than even atomic weapons (that rarely get engaged as they are more of a deterrent than a useful weapon). (We can easily surmise that the magnificent triangles are the only thing that keeps China from our throat.) (Frankly, I equate the potential capabilities of the physics of the triangles as equal to the invention of the wheel.)


"The gist of the whole business, is that the triangles have been and obviously are an on-going black-budget program and various schemes (wink, nod, nod) between government and industry have been utilized to cover the enormous expense they entail.

"There is that scene from the great movie Independence Day where the wise, Jewish father says to Goldberg, “You don’t really believe that they paid $500 for a toilet seat do you?” (In case you are too young to remember, that was a reference a Pentagon explanation back in about 2001 to explain a couple of trillion dollars missing from their record keeping books."

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I don't think you are in the right thread haha..

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Except that goes to an individual, not Congress or the military. Which is why I said I'm almost not surprised after some of the scandals Boeing has been involved in.