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My name is Michael Aquino, and I think it's kind of fun to do the impossible; Ask Me Anything.

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posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 06:57 AM
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Tell your girlfriend to stay strong. It is not her fault and she is going to need as much love and support that you can give her in the future. Some people may only get sp once in a while or constant. Luck of the drawer basically.

However, DON'T go to see specialists unless it is really necessary!! You might find out more than you really want to know. if you can manage sp, then leave it be and with any luck it might just fizzle out on its own.


Good luck and stay strong hx



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 08:14 AM
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I'll look up this video of Cathy o Brien
may be mike dodged your ques on purpose



Hey these smileys popped up on their own. Strange
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posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 08:21 AM
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My original question was questioning the agenda of Set, the supposed figure who inspired you to come up with the temple of Set, with its roots in LaVey satanism. being a Christian I didn't want to immediately follow my initial reaction of which I am sure you are familiar with, so I decided to do some research of my own so I could offer a proper critique.

I understand that there are roots in LaVey satanism in Setian philosophy and so on, and through research I have been able to deduce that LaVey's satanism is not worship of the Christian satan, but rather a worship of self, and the pursuit of self divination, satan is just a mythological figure as a source of inspiration. That makes sense, I am very open minded and can understand that and I won't knock another person's belief.

Where I am lost is that I am trying to understand what really is going on behind the scenes, because at first both LaVey satanism and Setian philosophy as I have understood from my brief research on your Xeper.org website and wikipedia, is that it promotes individualism and logical thought. But then goes on about pursuing this through black magic, or if I understand correctly, left-hand magic? So I find myself looking at this as something I can understand that it is mostly a philosophy, until I started researching the different orders of Setian philosophy. The one that has me most concerned is the order of Beelzebub and the Diabolicon. To quote the link from your website;

"The Diabolicon envisions a cosmos populated not by gods and goddesses, but by tangible races of higher beings and an energizing substance known as The Black Flame which eventually becomes the 'lever' for mankind's conscious evolution."

So to me it shows it goes beyond just a mythological belief, but an actual belief in some higher beings. So if we are talking about actual belief in physical beings or spiritual beings, then things change a bit. To continue it further, quoting the order of Setne Khamuast;

"Set-is-Beautiful, a Power manifests in Thebes, who opens the doors of the sky, shall come forth by Night to do all he wishes upon the world among the living."

This sounds a little unsettling saying he is doing all he wishes. Maybe I am taking it too far and this may be purely philosophical to you. Now quoting from the order of the Vampyre, one which really has me concerned;

"Vampyrism is a unique Black Magical condition that in and of its very nature requires a Posture, which enables a natural and effortless exchange of Power from the lesser to the Greater. In normal communication, this power is evidenced by the psychological control exerted over others."

"Through the great Black Magic, and in ways that are special to the Children of the Night, we seek to further enhance and augment such powers. On a lesser level, these powers will be evidenced in social communications resulting in personal power as measured by social position, wealth and personal freedom."

"As such, powers of imagination and visualization are employed by members in this Order. Therefore art, music, and literature can and will be used as tools for our Order members."

The quotes above leave me a little worried. Here you have an order within your Setian temple that clearly states psychological control over others, powers being used in a social communications, and lastly what sounds like the instruments of the media being used as a tool. It sounds to me like this order is trying to control and manipulate the minds of others. Sorry if I am not understanding this correctly, but this seems to go beyond just a philosophy in this order.

So what am I understanding from my brief couple of hours of self research? I am finding Nietzsche principles coated in black magic, and self worship, as well as manipulation of others. For what? Even though it seems as though there is no direct worship of any divine figures, it seems that there is a lot of energy directed to these beings. I am finding tons of positive things in here that seem to glorify the human race, that is all fine, but it lifts the human race up for what cause? I am finding that Setian philosophy and its LaVey satanism roots all focus on these older principles from mythology and so on, yet never address the older principles. I am finding a lot of energy and focus being drawn from those who follow these principles, and they seem to be funneled to some other being through some guise of intellectualism and independence. All of what I am discovering here shows me the belief in how your Mind War works is based on some pretty deceiving stuff.

My conclusion; I am finding only surface level human glorification which can be provocative for those who do not want to worship any god or entity and so on. But I am finding all of these things that are shady and set off red flags. I don't want to go down the usual Christian response you are used to of "it's evil!" But I am seeing things here that are in stark contrast to those things which can be called "good" even outside of Christianity. Manipulation of others, focusing on self worship, and mind control [fighting for one's mind], these are things that ring true of the Christian satan. Even though I know Set is not based on the Christian satan, they are very much alike in terms of principles.

I appreciate you coming in and answering questions, you are obviously very accomplished in life and intelligent, but I do not trust you or your answers, and I believe you have a hidden agenda that is masked. If you are going to claim that Setian philosophy is rational and not based on worship of some other entity, I would say your xeper site suggests different, there are some core things you are not telling us for some reason. I will be as bold to say I believe you are knowingly or unknowingly causing people to worship a spiritual entity but from the 3rd person, bypassing the modern norm of it. Is this spiritual entity the devil? I don't know, but are you sure you are in control? I do recall the rumors of what LaVey heard and said minutes before he passed away.



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 08:52 AM
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Makes you wonder, doesn't it? That was last night, before this stuff popped up on Cathy O'Brien this morning!! Not sure what to make of this illuminati stuff, but there has been and is something going on and it's not right!!

not sure what to make of the smileys

Bestist wishes,

hx



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 10:02 AM
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I did ask him about Cathy O'brian here www.abovetopsecret.com... , though he did answer saying she was a 'crank' he dodged my questions about his alleged involvement. I guess one answer implies the other.

One thing is for sure if there was a government program that was shut down because it crossed all the legal and moral boundaries no on will ever admit to being part of it unless they are forced to. There's a good reason Richard Helms attempted to destroy all the files on the MKUltra umbrella program , if it wasn't for a few documents that were missed we would have never have known about the terrible abuses using drugs,electro shock, sleep deprivation and other forms of mind torture. What Cathy Obrian is claiming (satanic child abuse) is a just a small step away from what we know for sure happened back then.

I am glad Mr Aquino attempted to give an answer to the question i asked but i still think there is some if not a lot of truth to what Cathy O'Brian, Chris Denicola and others have claimed. We may never know the full depths that the Government went to in these programs.



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posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 10:05 AM
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This has been an exceptional AMA and I'd like to thank Dr. Aquino for his valiant effort in answering so many of the questions in such detail and with obvious care.

For those who are interested, Dr. Aquino is and has been a member of ATS for years, he's not gone, you're likely to see him participating in threads that interest him.

This thread is now closed.

Thanks Again Michael!

Springer (Mark Allin)...



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 05:41 PM
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Very informative thread. Thank you to everyone who made it possible to have this volume of data get collected into one place.

The true litmus test of any program/technology is if those utilizing it would be comfortable handing the steering wheel over to someone they disagree with. Because someday it will be.

I felt this brand new video from Ben Swann is relevant and current.

Ben Swann Truth in Media: Government Program To Control Religious Thought?
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posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 06:00 PM
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TheBlackHat
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Whats with the kid with a hand for a head?


no that is a child that is doing a thumbs down ?
about the next kids head ?



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 06:00 PM
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his hand seems to be either coming out of nowhere, or coming out of the kid's collar though lol
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posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 06:03 PM
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happinness
I wanted to know if Dr Aquina was a humanist or is? Is that unreasonable to ask that?
Will I get kicked off of ATS now for asking a pertinent question?
hx


You asked Dr. Aquino if he was a humanist. How do YOU define "humanist"? Per Wiki -

humanist (plural humanists)
-(historical) In the Renaissance, a scholar of Greek and Roman classics
-a scholar of one of the subjects in the humanities
-a person who believes in the philosophy of humanism

humanism (usually uncountable, plural humanisms)
-The study of the humanities or the liberal arts; literary (especially classical) scholarship. [from 19th c.]
-(historical, often capitalized) Specifically, a cultural and intellectual movement in 14th-16th century
-Europe characterised by attention to Classical culture and a promotion of vernacular texts, notably
-during the Renaissance. [from 19th c.]  
-An ethical system that centers on humans and their values, needs, interests, abilities, dignity and
-freedom; especially used for a secular one which rejects theistic religion and superstition. [from 19th c.]
-Humanitarianism, philanthropy.


I had to look it up myself as it seemed rather vague and ambiguous, which it is. His answer could have reasonably been yes and no depending on the definition you are using.

Do you have another definition that has a more "loaded" connotation? Perhaps if you defined your term and asked him specifically what it was that concerned you my guess is that he would have given you a straight-forward answer, perhaps in detail.

Dr. Aquino has a quite varied background. There were many subject areas he could have been asked about - and he was on most all of them. It doesn't surprise me in the least that there would be some people who would not be in perfect harmony with all his responses. It didn't surprise me that some people would demand specific answers to vague questions that could have any number of answers.

I believe Dr. Aquino did a great job in giving detailed answers to many questions, perhaps too good for many people's tastes.

As regards your sleep paralysis you also asked about, keep in mind Dr. Aquino is a PhD not an MD. Perhaps that would be a better question for your physician.


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posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 06:39 PM
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Hi Erongaricuao,

I don't pretend to know it all. Grammatically incorrect many times, but I am trying to learn.

I used to think Humanist's liked to hang out on nudist beaches. That was as far as it went. The Humanist's I have recently learnt about are devoid of God or any deity.
As for sleep paralysis? I am going to be blunt!!! ... the Doctors at the top are aliens!!!

I might not be as educated as I could be, but I am not stupid either and I certainly don't plan to join any humanist association as a human ordinary bod anytime soon. I don't know where you have been looking, but I have seen lots on the internet about them.

Anyway I hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings and I apologise if I offended anyone.
All the time I have feelings and emotions I am gong to use them, as it comes naturally to me.
Believe me I have met them, so you will have to forgive a curious mind and a longing to find out the truth.



Best wishes hx



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 06:52 PM
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Well.
I guess my question wasn't good enough.
I thought so, but what do I know...???

Okay.

Maybe next time...Dr. Aquino.
Maybe next time.

:/



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 06:55 PM
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AFewGoodWomen
Well.
I guess my question wasn't good enough.
I thought so, but what do I know...???

Okay.

Maybe next time...Dr. Aquino.
Maybe next time.

:/


You honestly can't expect him to respond to every post.



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 07:10 PM
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libertytoall

AFewGoodWomen
Well.
I guess my question wasn't good enough.
I thought so, but what do I know...???

Okay.

Maybe next time...Dr. Aquino.
Maybe next time.

:/


You honestly can't expect him to respond to every post.


Unlike many others that will come and go Mr. Aquino is a life long card carrying member of ATS. Been here as long as I have (old account but im not nearly as old in age hehe). You really want to know so bad PM him. Or checkout some other threads he's active in.

Here's one for ya:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 07:12 PM
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Sorry my post above was actually meant for you. I thought it would chain quote, I guess they wanted to save server space, although now i think the extra post ore then made up for it.
give it up for unintended consequences.



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 07:36 PM
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Mr. Aquino, have you ever felt yourself a victim of multistalking by "good standing citizens"?

And by the way, stop blaming every mind control #up on the government. That cat got out of the bag years ago and any #tard with a modicum of resources can psych people up.

(Crowley was a Giant Douche, real life Sherlock Holmes and Secret Agent 666 but calling him a master may be a bit too much. www.olavodecarvalho.org... )



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 08:52 PM
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TKDRL
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his hand seems to be either coming out of nowhere, or coming out of the kid's collar though lol
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OK it looks like it is but his arm sleeve is close to the same color of the other kids Shirt

This was Done in 1981 this Pic unfortunately its black n white was scanned From another Picture that was Colored

tho one of these kids had a weak telekinesis the one to the Left of me

We were a group of 20 children There were 2 classes in this Photo
we were Camping for 2 days weekend Grade 1-4 and Grade 5-6

Well More Less to Testing our Ability's in Nature



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 08:58 PM
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I just took a look back at this thread and see a couple of after-my-departure posts that I think call for a response from me ... beginning with this one:


fleabit
Ah.. Colonel Aquino. I remember his name well. I was serving at the Presidio at the same time as he. My wife at the time worked for him at JAG.

No, she didn't. I was a Military Intelligence (MI) officer, not a Judge Advocate General (JAG) [Army lawyers] officer.


When the child molestation cases were a hot topic, I served with some fellow soldiers basically hiding in bushes every night with black-dyed BDUs and night-vision goggles, trying to catch the arsonist who had already set fire to two of the child center buildings - which I imagine was done in an effort to destroy evidence.

As no child was actually ever molested in the 1986-7 Presidio daycare witchhunt, there was no "evidence" at the daycare center to destroy.

The Tobins started the scam against teacher Gary Hambright in November 1986, and it continued until all charges against him were dismissed in February 1988. I just Googled some old news reports, and the fires at the daycare center reportedly occurred in September 1987. Obviously investigators had had an entire year to examine the center for evidence of any crime, and had found absolutely nothing.

According to the news reports, the arsonist(s) was never found. Since no crimes had occurred, and there was accordingly no "evidence" there, it is more probable that it was one of the scam-promoters trying to further sensationalize the witchhunt and increase his/her chances for a share of the $74 million in fraudulent claims everyone rushed to file.


A good civilian friend of mine on base was one whose child admitted to being abused. Some of the children told stories about being taken off base, where they were involved among other things, being covered in feces, urine, forced to eat feces, and covered in blood. Stuff like that. Stuff that makes your skin crawl in disbelief.

Or greed, if such completely unsupported allegations gave you the opportunity to file a multimillion-$ claim based on nothing more than "my child said" [a long time after any such claimed incident, which not a single parent had noticed at the time].

The standard procedure in the "SRA"-witchhunts of the 1980s, following the McMartin example, was for a professional "abuse"-finding "play therapist" to indoctrinate children into saying anything that could be interpreted as "sexual abuse", after which the massive lawsuits and government claims commenced. In the early phase of this nationwide epidemic of accusations, law-enforcement was caught completely by surprise. And no one wanted to appear inconsiderate of tearful, martyred parents "protecting their children".

By 1992 this vicious, depraved, and disgusting urban myth had finally all been exposed and discredited. "Satanic ritual abuse":

• - does not exist in the United States, as reported by the FBI’s National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime in 1992, after an 11-year study. “There are many children in the United States who, starting early in their lives, are severely psychologically, physically, and sexually traumatized by angry, sadistic parents or other adults. Such abuse, however, is not perpetrated only or primarily by satanists. The statistical odds are that such abusers are members of mainstream religions ... For the last eight years American law enforcement has been aggressively investigating the allegations of victims of ritual abuse. There is little or no evidence for the portion of their allegations that deals with large-scale baby-breeding, human sacrifice, and organized satanic conspiracies.” (Investigator’s Guide to Allegations of “Ritual” Child Abuse, January 1992)

• - does not exist in the United States, as concluded by an exhaustive national study for the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect: “In a survey of more than 11,000 psychiatric and police workers throughout the country, conducted for the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect, researchers found more than 12,000 accusations of group cult sexual abuse based on Satanic ritual, but not one that investigators had been able to substantiate. ‘After scouring the country, we found no evidence for large-scale cults that sexually abuse children,’ said Dr. Gail Goodman, a psychologist at the University of California at Davis, who directed the survey. The survey included 6,910 psychiatrists, psychologists, and clinical social workers; and 4,655 district attorneys, police departments, and social service agencies. They reported 12,264 accusations of ritual abuse that they had investigated. The survey found that there was not a single case among them where there was clear corroborating evidence for the most common accusation, that there was “a well-organized, intergenerational Satanic cult who sexually molested and tortured children in their homes or schools for years and committed a series of murders,” said Goodman. (Daniel Goleman, New York Times, reprinted San Francisco Chronicle 11/1/94)

The details of the general Presidio scam victimizing Gary Hambright are here. The specific scam that chaplain Larry Adams-Thompson and his wife attempted against Lilith and myself is detailed here.


I'm curious if the good Colonel would be open to discussing anything that occurred at that time, or if that sort of thing is even open to debate.

As you can see, I took it on completely and immediately the moment my wife and I were attacked. Most victims of those scams were so traumatized by them that they just froze like deer-in-headlights, which is why the scams were so easy and profitable for as long as they were.

After the "SRA"-myth was of no more use in the early 1990s, "abuse" accusations switched over to parents and close family relatives, which was not nearly as much fun for them. Most recently, of course, it's the Catholic Church which has become the allegation target-of-choice; and unfortunately for that institution, there do seem to have been enough verified incidents so that additional allegations [and $-claims] continue to proliferate today.


For my part, I don't think Satanism for many, is nearly the benign belief system that some make it out to be. I felt at the time, and it hasn't changed over the years, that the abuse the children were subjected to were directly related to something far more than sexual perversion. There was something else going on. But I have a feeling such dreadful topics are a taboo subject in this thread.

There was no child abuse in the 1066-75 Church of Satan, and there is none in the 1975+ Temple of Set. Their histories are a matter of open and public record, and thousands of persons are present and former members. If there were secret crimes [of any sort] being perpetrated, it would certainly have come out long before the 1980s scams and the copycats and sensationalist cranks they inspired.

Just be glad that one of those scams wasn't attempted against you, which could have come from a vindictive divorcing spouse, a greedy child or close relative, or [as in our case] an unknown third-party looking for any convenient target.



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 09:19 PM
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Broom
Do Satanists view it morally wrong to lie?

This isn't discussed in the Satanic Bible, but Anton LaVey did comment on it in his second book The Compleat Witch. There are two kinds of lies, he proposes: the kind that listeners want to hear and the kind that the liar uses for purely selfish gain. The former can be used wisely and prudently, but the latter rarely benefits the liar in the long run because sooner or later the truth will out. Anton concludes:



Anton LaVey
Lie and give pleasure. Lie and soothe consciences. Lie and supply the food for the ego that the truth can seldom provide. Lie and become a hero, for whatever lies are popular will always win votes. Lie, but be not yourself deluded by your lies, lest you lose control, for he who loses control over his own motivations can never progress to a proficiency in sorcery.

In principle I think everyone, no matter what religion or persuasion, would disapprove of lying. In practice everyone does it all the time, from income tax returns to assuring your wife that her new dress doesn't make her look fat. [Careful exactly how you phrase this.] You lie to yourself too, which is politely called "rationalizing". So I think Anton called it pretty well: Just be judicious and considerate about your chosen lies, and above all be honest with yourself. If you are, you have taken the basic decision to not damaging others with falsehood.



posted on Oct, 16 2013 @ 09:33 PM
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PhoenixOD
I did ask him about Cathy O'brian here www.abovetopsecret.com... , though he did answer saying she was a 'crank' he dodged my questions about his alleged involvement. I guess one answer implies the other.

Correct. O'Brien never had any contact whatever with me, and her statements to the contrary are pure invention.

As a matter of policy I don't respond to attempts at public confrontation from nutcases, since it would just dignify their nonsense and gratify their craving for publicity.


One thing is for sure if there was a government program that was shut down because it crossed all the legal and moral boundaries no on will ever admit to being part of it unless they are forced to. There's a good reason Richard Helms attempted to destroy all the files on the MKUltra umbrella program , if it wasn't for a few documents that were missed we would have never have known about the terrible abuses using drugs,electro shock, sleep deprivation and other forms of mind torture. What Cathy Obrian is claiming (satanic child abuse) is a just a small step away from what we know for sure happened back then.

There is no big secret about MKULTRA, and while it was a stupid and futile program, it certainly doesn't substantiate O'Brien's or others' wacko extrapolations about it. Cf. John Marks, The Search for the “Manchurian Candidate”: The CIA and Mind Control (New York: New York Times Books, 1979). MKULTRA was established by the CIA in 1953 as a successor to the 1952 MKDELTA. Its purpose was to explore various means of controlling human behavior, of which psychedelic drugs such as '___' were merely one option. Cf. Martin A. Lee & Bruce Shlain, Acid Dreams: The Complete Social History of '___': The CIA, the Sixties, and Beyond (Revised Edition) (New York: Grove Press, 1994). In 1965 DOD initiated a successor to MKULTRA named MKSEARCH, which was limited to drug-behavioral modification only. It was terminated in 1973. Cf. Congressional Record, Subcommittee on Health and Scientific Research of the Committee on Human Resources, September 20, 1977, “Human Drug Testing by the CIA, 1977”.



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