MtDna shows Ashkenzi Jew are genetically European

I'm sure. But people don't seem to understand that someone who converts IS JEWISH! There is no difference. It is against jewish law to treat or view a convert differently from a born jew.

robobbob
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The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting
the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses
Eran Elhaik1,2,*
1Department of Mental Health, Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg School of Public Health December 5, 2012

"The geographical origins of European Jews varied for different reference populations (fig. 4 and supplementary fig. S5, Supplementary Material online), but all the results converged to Southern Khazaria along modern Turkey, Armenia,
Georgia, and Azerbaijan. Eastern European Jews clustered tightly compared with Central European Jews in all analyses."

"We compared two genetic models for European Jewish ancestry depicting a mixed Khazarian–European–Middle Eastern and sole Middle Eastern origins. Contemporary populations were used as surrogates to the ancient Khazars and Judeans, and their relatedness to European Jews was compared over a comprehensive set of genetic
analyses. Our findings support the Khazarian hypothesis depicting a large Near Eastern–Caucasus ancestry along with Southern European, Middle Eastern, and Eastern European ancestries, in agreement with recent studies and oral and
written traditions. We conclude that the genome of European Jews is a tapestry of ancient populations including Judaized Khazars, Greco–Roman Jews, Mesopotamian Jews, and Judeans and that their population structure was formed in the Caucasus and the banks of the Volga with roots stretching to Canaan and the banks of the Jordan."

edit on 16-10-2013 by robobbob because: syntex

earlier quote

This was before the latest study which was published October this year. From what you quoted it is not known if this is male or female but presumed male. The difference is that the entire female genome has now been compared and the women are mostly from Southern and Western Europe with a lesser amount from Central and Eastern Europe. Important because lineage is female. The question is for what reason? and why the biblical coverup.

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Not suggesting anyone should be treated differently but if lineage is through the female, what happens at conversion that makes them qualify a jewish by heritage... by religion yes, but heritage?

liveandlearn
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Not suggesting anyone should be treated differently but if lineage is through the female, what happens at conversion that makes them qualify a jewish by heritage... by religion yes, but heritage?

Jewish identity is a bit complex, and seems to be widely misunderstood by non-jews. I have knowledge of it because I nearly converted to orthodox judaism a few years ago. Jewish is neither a religion or a race, yet it entails both.

It's like this. There are formal, set-in-stone standards for what constitutes a conversion. If you take on the beliefs of Judaism, even fully practicing, you are not Jewish, according to traditional standards. If you are born Jewish, and completely abandon the faith, say adopting Christianity, Islam, or atheism, you are still 100% Jewish. If you properly convert to Judaism, you are seen as no different from a born Jew. Even if you later abandon the faith, you will always be a Jew.