Electromagnetism, UFOs, and the Weaponization of Alien Technology

Eidolon23
reply to post by Willtell

 

It's slow at work, so I'm watching the Skinwalker clip. Ventura is very likable, but I wasn't expecting any substance. Which is why I was taken aback @ minute 23 when the radio interference changed into... a cold metallic voice. A force that takes radio waves and shapes them into syllables.

Or a guy with a vocoder.

The cold metallic voice is one of those tiny motifs you run into again and again in the course of research. Sarfatti, Puharich, Geller, Keel, Swann-- they all heard it, and they all described it the same way. I always wondered what it sounded like, and now I know.

If the phone rings at any point in the next half hour I am going to have a very rough time convincing myself to answer it.

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There was a skinwalker thread here on ATS awhile back. Apparently a few members here went and camped out just outside the ranch borders to try and document some of the strangeness. One thing I found fascinating was apparently they were all sitting on a hilltop and were talking about what would happen if the cops showed up. Well, just then red and blue lights started flashing near by and they heard that same voice coming through a bullhorn.
At first they thought "oh crap its the cops", but then they started wondering how the cop car got to where it was considering there were no roads out there. Then they realized there was no car, just lights, and the voice wasn't making any sense.
Creepy.
And I think this is what the NIDS guys mean when they say whatever it is, it is in control. Its smart. It plays on your fears.

reply to post by JayinAR


Yeah The Skinwalker Ranch, what I would give to see bigerlows files on that place!
The perfect location to study what we call "High Strangeness" so what were the doing out there? I mean how many experiments where they running?

Were some of the N.I.D.S team used as lab rats unbeknownst to themselves possibly by useing Freak Tech to make the phenomena happen on cue, or did they get mind bending DATA that allowed TPTB to harness it, crunch the numbers then develop means to replicate it at will?

Certainly the perfect place to do such things.
Maybe the argument about disclosure is a valid one when it's suggested we can't handle the truth!
What if the truth is so terrifying and even our governments are unable to stop the Real cases of weirdness? From what I gather and this is trippy, these entity's well lets just say that IF they want to manifest into our reality there is nothing we can do to stop them! How do you tell the public something like that?

So of course you have to ask yourself is this what part of the MILAB scenario is about? finding out how we react, see if 9 out of 10 people freak out! It's a possibility.

stealthyaroura
Were some of the N.I.D.S team used as lab rats unbeknownst to themselves possibly by useing Freak Tech to make the phenomena happen on cue, or did they get mind bending DATA that allowed TPTB to harness it, crunch the numbers then develop means to replicate it at will?

Certainly the perfect place to do such things.

"Freak Tech," I like that!

But, darn, stealthy, you had to go and mention MILABS! I say "darn" because I've been wanting to address the subject, but I'll have to spend a little time on it to do it justice and put the materials together. I'll try and have it done before the weekend is out. I think your take on it, should they exist, has some teeth and I further think that discussion will be interesting.

I used to laugh at that subject, but there is some information out there that has made it impossible for me to totally write milabs off anymore…talk about weird, dark--and even dangerous--rabbit holes…

Maybe the argument about disclosure is a valid one when it's suggested we can't handle the truth!
What if the truth is so terrifying and even our governments are unable to stop the Real cases of weirdness?

In my ufological evolution over the last few years, that exact scenario would seem to fit and explain a lot---that is, especially, if we're talking about some kind of extradimensional entities. What if contact with "them" was always accompanied by high-strangeness and some unpredictability? It certainly is a scary scenario and would certainly cause some problems, eh?

nugget1
I wasn't suggesting abductions aren't a real phenomenon, just that they have become so frequent and wide spread, maybe some of them could be from earthly entities for their own experiments.

If aliens can take over complete control of our minds and bodies, wouldn't war mongering humans minds want to try and figure out how to do it too?

We already know science is light years ahead of what the public is aware of. Ms.Nugget

Yep and Yep. This discussion is getting very weird...cool!

1ofthe9
If there is an intelligence directing the phenomena, then it would appear that it was running some kind psychological warfare scheme to modify our behavior/culture/etc for unknown ends. I'm wondering if the psywar guys were taking notes and learning from the phenomena in some sense.

Yeah, If they have remained on the outside looking in so to speak, then taking notes and monkeying around seems to be par for such an intelligence apparatus.

Then again, given our cast of characters hands-on pursuit of esoterica--and EM technologies--maybe it's like stealthy stated and this thread suggests: Maybe they've come under the influence. What's that saying about staring into the abyss? Especially one that reportedly has so much influence over the human mind and perceptual reality?

So GLAD you've joined us at ATS! I'll send you a pm that you should be able to receive now.

Eidolon23
reply to post by Willtell

 

The cold metallic voice is one of those tiny motifs you run into again and again in the course of research. Sarfatti, Puharich, Geller, Keel, Swann-- they all heard it, and they all described it the same way. I always wondered what it sounded like, and now I know.

From the Mothman Prophecies...

A few days later, on May 17, Jane answered the phone (she had her own phone in her room) and a strange metallic voice addressed her.

“Listen carefully,” it said. “I cannot hear you.”

It instructed her to go to a small public library nearby and look up a certain book on Indian history.

She did as she was instructed. On May 19 she went to the library at 10:30 A.M. The place was deserted except for the librarian, who struck Jane as being unusual. The woman was,

“dressed in an old-fashioned suit like something out of the 1940s, with a long skirt, broad shoulders, and flat old-looking shoes.“ (Remember, this was in 1967, long before the 1940s styles became popular again.)

She had a dark complexion, with a fine bone structure, and very black eyes and hair. When Jane entered, the woman seemed to be expecting her and produced the book instantly from under her desk.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

i force them out of my brain, using neural techniques ive developed that work well, and when they look at my neural hard drive, ill just say this, they dont like looking at me. Whoever did this to me, you only hurt your own degraded system of absolute b.s.

Bybyots

Eidolon23
reply to post by Willtell

 

The cold metallic voice is one of those tiny motifs you run into again and again in the course of research. Sarfatti, Puharich, Geller, Keel, Swann-- they all heard it, and they all described it the same way. I always wondered what it sounded like, and now I know.

From the Mothman Prophecies...

A few days later, on May 17, Jane answered the phone (she had her own phone in her room) and a strange metallic voice addressed her.

“Listen carefully,” it said. “I cannot hear you.”

It instructed her to go to a small public library nearby and look up a certain book on Indian history.

She did as she was instructed. On May 19 she went to the library at 10:30 A.M. The place was deserted except for the librarian, who struck Jane as being unusual. The woman was,

“dressed in an old-fashioned suit like something out of the 1940s, with a long skirt, broad shoulders, and flat old-looking shoes.“ (Remember, this was in 1967, long before the 1940s styles became popular again.)

She had a dark complexion, with a fine bone structure, and very black eyes and hair. When Jane entered, the woman seemed to be expecting her and produced the book instantly from under her desk.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

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Good post, man. And dangit, now I'm gonna have to look at the Mothman Prophesies.

reply to post by Bybyots


I was just reading about the dangerous Mothra, watch out for the implants in the back...

The nature of the whirlwind, which whizzes around in circles, effects a power that can do the same to the mind, rendering the enemy confused and disoriented; or in the sphere of love, it can cause the mind of a woman to spiral out of control so that she cannot resist seduction. It is no wonder, then, that the Sioux god Whirlwind (Yum, Yomn, Yomni) is a deity of chance, games, and most particularly love. The moth is a natural exemplar of the vortex, since it circles a flame in a tightening spiral, and some species of moths also spiral downward to escape bats. Another predator of moths, the spider, is in an obscure way involved with the whirlwind. In Lakota apotropaic designs, the spider silk web indicates the whirlwind as much as does the silk cocoon. This may be because both the web and the whirlwind are circular, and form a trap.


In the Ghost Dance, Whirlwind is to bear the dancers "upward to the new spirit world." This apparently works in reverse. Human beings originated out of Paruksti's whirlwind bag according to the Pawnee. In a Blackfoot tale, the soul of a child appeared to his future mother in the form of a whirlwind, but when she grasped him, she found nothing in her hand except a caterpiller. When this boy grew up, he wished to leave for the spirit world, but because his mother insisted on going with him, he became a whirlwind into which both disappeared. The mere identity of Mothra as moth would also be sufficient to associate it with the whirlwind as the transporter of ghosts; and the fact that Morning Star is a god of winds, would seem to implicate him as well.

Itzpapalotl, the Obsidian Butterfly, has an alloform as an ītzpāpā́lōtl moth as well as numerous fictional lepidoptera, some of which are mothras in their own right, equipped with gaping jaws and sharp teeth. Since, in these Mexican terms, Morning Star fell into the power of Itzpapalotl, he was therefore captured by a supernatural and dangerous moth


The cocoon plays an important role in the Dakotan branch of Central Siouan. There is a cocoon called a wamni(y)omni, which is said to embed itself in the small of the back of some buffaloes Riggs defines wamniomni as, "a small worm, perhaps a chrysalis; a whirl of wind, a hurricane We know that this "chrysalis" is actually a cocoon, because it is the moth, rather than the butterfly, that has an intimate connection to the whirlwind


The Dakota believe that there is a close relation between the whirlwind and the fluttering wings of a moth. The cocoon is regarded as the bundle or mysterious object from which a power similar to that of the whirlwind emanates. I was told that the observed facts as to the emergence of the moth from this bundle were in themselves evidences of the sacred character of the moth because it had power to escape from an enclosure. Like the wind it could not be confined


Morning Star himself shares in the metamorphic powers of the moth who swallowed him. This would be in keeping with the Mexican tendency to see a merging of attributes of those deities whose physical realms come to coincide. In old Mexico Mixcoatl is the leader of the dead, the warriors who reside in the sky, who escort the sun to its midpoint; those women who have died giving birth, reside in the other half of the sky, and under the leadership of Itzpapalotl, escort the sun to its setting point. At Etowah the Hočąk-style Morning Star has become the warrior god of the elite dead, those who, as in Hočąk theology (as opposed to Mexican) may rediscover life in the flesh just as did their leader Morning Star.

Morning Star versus Mothra

reply to post by stealthyaroura


I think if they have developed the tech to control or harness high strangeness that it is perhaps the most dangerous tech on the planet, and would be highly classified. It could be used to literally drive people insane.

But here is a question...what about people like myself who seem to have invited the strangeness in somehow? Either through meditation or flat out occult practices. How does that work? How do people (Gov or entities) go about monitoring a single individual's thoughts amongst the billions
fof people, billions of cats, dogs, horses, dolphins, etc that are presumably floating around in the ether?

That, in my eyes, is one of a few million dollar questions.

As far as technology being developed at skinwalker, I must admit that at first I was skeptical. I figured that they were most likely just there to gather data, but considering what we have read here in this thread I have revised that opinion somewhat. It would be cool to find out what sort of experiments they ran out there, at least.

reply to post by Kantzveldt


I'm enjoying that link, K, thank you. I went to the top of the page to find this...

Integral to understanding the "Big Bang" of Cahokia is the rise of the cult of the figure known to archaeologists as "Birdman."

www.hotcakencyclopedia.com...

West Virginia, where the whole mothman thing went down, is full of mounds just like Cahokia.



That whole region of the U.S. is remarkably strange, especially all along the Ohio River valley.

reply to post by Bybyots


The Mothra is a very important and pervaisve figure as it creates the whirlwind that allows the souls to pass through the hole in the sky, it creates a vortex through realms.

In the form of a hawk, he follows the whirlwind through the hole in the sky. From this point on, the story goes like that of the Hero Twins of the Crow, as they eventually overcome the lord of the Above World, and escape back through the hole in the sky.

Among the Lakota, the charter myth for transiting the hole in the sky identifies the mechanical means of entering through it as being the whirlwind. It would suggest that the whirlwind, whose identity is bound up with the moth,

In the old days we did not know cyclones; but when we came to know them, we called them Ra-ri-tu-ru. We remembered what we had been told of the return of the south wind from the star of the dead, and we offered tobacco.


It could perhaps be said that the appearance of Mothmen is a sign that the portal between the spirit realm and the Earthly is being opened.

JayinAR


Good post, man. And dangit, now I'm gonna have to look at the Mothman Prophesies.

You mean you haven't already!? For shame...go read all of John Keel's books...go ahead, freely available online on scribd, etc....Disneyland of the Gods, UFO:Operation Trojan Horse, The Eighth Tower, Mothman Prophecies, Our Haunted Planet...All great, and judging by your interest in this thread you should LOVE them.

reply to post by JayinAR

But here is a question...what about people like myself who seem to have invited the strangeness in somehow? Either through meditation or flat out occult practices. How does that work? How do people (Gov or entities) go about monitoring a single individual's thoughts amongst the billions fof people, billions of cats, dogs, horses, dolphins, etc that are presumably floating around in the ether?

Possible our thoughts follow different wave lengths, like different channels on a radio. Maybe they 'dial in' to the frequency your thoughts are on.
I believe positive thoughts have a much different imprint than negative thoughts, and meditation seems to enhance the effect.
That's why I began to wonder if alien interaction wasn't some for of mind control experiment, since most of the people say it occurs after meditating, or engaging in some form of the paranormal/mystical arts.
More and more I find myself wondering if it's POSSIBLE that alien visitations are implanted memories.

Ms.Nugget

JayinAR
Again I may be wrong, but I think that the high strangeness areas are probably located in areas of geologic "turmoil" of one sort or another.

Utah comes to mind. Colorado. Etc.

There are quite a few tentative studies being undertaken as to whether magnetism may be responsible for paranormal activity. Some findings suggest that exposure to magnetism can cause hallucinations, which may explain the 'high strangeness' is some geographical locations. I doubt that it is the answer to all paranormal events, but geological make up, mineral deposits, as well such things as Radon Gas emissions could explain some.

In terms of the magnetic sense, this is not a function that is (currently) associated with the eye. So it is possible that the brain is filling in the gaps in perception, creating a visual approximation and imposing it on the environment. To all intents and purposes a hallucination, but one that is based on a perceived anomaly. What our brain uses, or refers to, when it receives the information and attempts to give it form, could be our imagination or our body of experience. Whatever it, the brain, considers the most rational explanation. An expectation of a 'UFO' would naturally manifest a flying saucer or similar, just as in church or graveyard, you might expect an angel or demon. In Shamanic terms, I think it is interesting that the Shaman is/was often closely associated with blacksmithing, the blacksmith persists through history as a strangely magical and mysterious persona. I wonder whether such a magnetic sense would aid in finding deposits of iron. And, if the Shaman can locate these places of 'high strangeness', he can use it to his advantage in shaping the reality of his people, directing them to see what he wants them to see,or thinks they should see, helping their minds to fill in the gaps. It is all that any belief system does really.

reply to post by Kantzveldt


So, we have a confluence of burial mounds, mothman sightings, and mythology that indicates the mothman as psychopomp. There is rumored to be a burial ground located on the ridge at Skinwalker, as well as aerial portals that spit winged craft. EM anomalies abound around ghost sightings as well as UFOs.

Huh.

Kantzveldt
reply to post by Bybyots

 

The Mothra is a very important and pervaisve figure as it creates the whirlwind that allows the souls to pass through the hole in the sky, it creates a vortex through realms.

In the form of a hawk, he follows the whirlwind through the hole in the sky. From this point on, the story goes like that of the Hero Twins of the Crow, as they eventually overcome the lord of the Above World, and escape back through the hole in the sky.

Among the Lakota, the charter myth for transiting the hole in the sky identifies the mechanical means of entering through it as being the whirlwind. It would suggest that the whirlwind, whose identity is bound up with the moth,

In the old days we did not know cyclones; but when we came to know them, we called them Ra-ri-tu-ru. We remembered what we had been told of the return of the south wind from the star of the dead, and we offered tobacco.


It could perhaps be said that the appearance of Mothmen is a sign that the portal between the spirit realm and the Earthly is being opened.

Consider this (in context)...

Observations by NASA's THEMIS spacecraft and Europe's Cluster probes suggest that these magnetic portals open and close dozens of times each day. They're typically located a few tens of thousands of kilometers from Earth where the geomagnetic field meets the onrushing solar wind. Most portals are small and short-lived; others are yawning, vast, and sustained. Tons of energetic particles can flow through the openings, heating Earth's upper atmosphere, sparking geomagnetic storms, and igniting bright polar auroras.

Portals form via the process of magnetic reconnection. Mingling lines of magnetic force from the sun and Earth criss-cross and join to create the openings. "X-points" are where the criss-cross takes place. The sudden joining of magnetic fields can propel jets of charged particles from the X-point, creating an "electron diffusion region."

science.nasa.gov...

Funnily enough, the latest copy of New Scientist has the cover story, The Forgotten Force, looking at how electromagnetism helps shape the universe leaving signatures that go back to right after the Big Bang.

Interesting stuff.

Boy, we all must be on some sort of conference call today. I have been messing with an interesting tiger's eye sphere that has a lode of iron at it's base. It makes it so the 'eye' always rolls to the top. It also allows me to stick it to a rather powerful medical magnet that is stuck of the fridge. I likes it.

So, in the U.S. most of the iron comes from Michigan and Minnesota. If you can look at a map (the one I posted above 'll do) you will see that they are both up there in the Great Lakes region. Then there are all of those rivers, including the Ohio, that form a network over that whole region in question; Chaokia and so on. And it is throughout that lower region, especially the Ohio River Valley, that coal is mined.

The upper part of the Ohio River is called Steel Valley...

The Steel Valley is the area of post-industrial and industrial concentration along the upper Ohio River valley as well as the Monongahela River all the way to the West Virginia border.

Here's a handy little map...

The World Digital Magnetic Anomaly Map (WDMAM) shows the variation in strength of the magnetic field after the Earth's dipole field has been removed. Earth's dipole field is generated by circulating electric currents in the planet's metal core. It varies from 35,000 nanoTesla (nT) at the Equator to 70,000 nT at the poles.

After removal of the dipole field anomalies, the variations in the field (few hundreds of nT) are due to changes in the magnetic properties of the crustal rocks themselves.
Hot colours (reds) indicate high values; cold colours (blues) indicate low or negative values of the magnetic field strength.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Some of the details are interesting...

This is Britain for example.



Iowa...



Though the Kursk anomaly wins hands down on the spectacular scale...

Looking for evidence of paranormal activity in the Kursk region...
Not much so far. It seems hard to find info from Russia. Anyhow, I did find this.

" However, the story about the Congress is still shown on August 12. It provides, inter alia, stated that the Stavropol icon in shape and size of the picture completely coincided with the icon, which appeared in England, July 17, 1991! Synchronously with the Stavropol icon, exactly the same appeared June 27, 2000 in the fields near the village Tim Kursk! The summer of 1998 was a serious risk of explosion of the Kursk nuclear power plant. A 12 August 2000 Kursk submarine collided with a UFO in the Barents Sea. (According to eniologicheskogo investigate what happened in 17-55. Ca.'s). Many of the team Premier League and the English transcription of the name of the village Tim - team - a team trained in the town of Pushkin. Rescue operations were especially stretched - witness this "contact" was bound to perish! It is only then the powers that be will awareness of what happened. And initially there was only the fear of losing power! Incidentally, a week before the disaster, it is on this submarine traveled Putin."

eniology.org...

Kind of hard to decipher what they're talking about, but it seems like crop circles that match patterns found in England.

It also seems like perhaps they had folks hold ears of affected corn while doing some brain imaging of some sort and found anomylous readings??

Anybody make sense of this?