Background information:
The evening prior to this disturbing experience foisted upon me, I had committed a sinful deed, though at the time I did not feel such was a severe
transgression to warrant what was Allowed to happen.
The following experience was not by my account a dream, but based upon the astral workings within this earthen dimensional structure. Although others
may be willing to argue against such elements in operation, this is my testimony through my soul perspective for purpose of sharing only- therefore it
is your will to reject it and I am fine with such.
To the matter at hand, my account---I found myself tightly gripped in the clutches of a group of beings (3 to 4) as they were carrying me in flight.
Through the sheer darkness of the surrounds, I could still see the outline of their being as taller and more physically imposing than I as they had my
arms and legs bound by their very strong hand throughout---forcing my body swiftly and directly downward at great speed through what appeared like a
pit. There was no way for me to overpower their clutches upon my limbs as I was hurtling deeper and deeper through what seemed as a dark great abyss,
likened to a very deep pit, just as scripture denotes---an area so covered in darkness and void around that I could hardly make out these snaring
entities that I knew instinctively were demons escorting me on a descent straight down toward their place of hell. The experience that Alerted was
brief, yet profoundly impacting before being 'brought out' of evil's snare in prayer before my waking.
In the aftermath of this ordeal, the crux of the matter Indicated to my being was that through my sin/s, I had surrendered Divine Protections as a
strong faithful in Christ, of which the Devil and his agents endeavor to target us moreso as threat to their soul snaring influence. In expressing
such though, it is not meant to inspire fear, though the Christ Path Instructs humanity to not cleave to this fallen world nor to the flesh in any
case to live in fear of attack/flesh harm.
I realized this experience Allotted was to serve as a Warning that the path I was on was not in the interest of the Kingdom of Heaven, which expects
more from the children it has Revealed itself to in Blessed Abundance to be without excuse in a Glorious Christian based faith Confirmed with all it's
Blessings toward adherents. Such does not make me more special or above anybody at all of course, it just is what it is in Reward Allotted for long
seeking and knocking with genuine sincere yearning upon Truth.
There are many that believe that Warnings of a fate toward the ultimate ends of destruction in hell at RIGHTEOUS Judgement (against sin loving
unrepentant lifestyles) are just 'false scare tactics'... However, if one subscribes to such, then one has already rejected the repeated Holy
Testimony of not just Yeshua/Jesus Christ our Lord of lords, King of Kings, but the many references throughout the Bible to both the existence of
demons AND the hell fated to them for their Rejection and rebellion toward wickedness in turn. I included a reference to the numerous notations to the
negative based 'underworld', so that those that would call themselves part of the 'faithful' better recognize all they ignore regarding the reality of
hell in Warning.
What Say the Scriptures About Hell? www.heraldmag.org...
Much to deny by what is of course not pleasant to the worldly pleasure loving psyche to want to consider as a reality.
I took note by this experience, that it was meant to Steer me toward a more righteous Alignment in repentance in the wake of what was truly disturbing
to my soul. Such a happening Allowed in effect was not a negative at all, but a Positive Guidance toward the 'narrow path' of Virtue by which His Life
was laid down for us to follow in Sacrifice by forsaking this world and all it's temptations toward evil.
Interestingly, I was Led to this verse last night without seeking on the matter, though it is ideal to include for what our Father knew I would be
doing today, in context to the minds of the many moreso lacking in faith in the Kingdom of Yeshua Christ.
"First, understand this: during the Last Days, scoffers will come, following their own desires 4 and asking, “Where is this promised ‘coming’ of
his? For our fathers have died, and everything goes on just as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But, wanting so much to be right about
this, they overlook the fact that it was by God’s Word that long ago there were heavens, and there was land which arose out of water and existed
between the waters, 6 and that by means of these things the world of that time was flooded with water and destroyed. 7 It is by that same Word that
the present heavens and earth, having been preserved, are being kept for fire until the Day of Judgment, when ungodly people will be destroyed."
2 Peter 3:3-7 Complete Jewish Bible
The choice is ours in what positive or negative elements we are led by in will and the time of Testing and our Creator's Grace with Mercy is soon to
be Measured---that too I have been Shown by Grace and will be the topic of another thread based upon personal testimonies.
I am not alone in such testimony...for there are many compelled to share what the enemies of our souls have attempted to blind us to, void of the
Truth.
I can relate to this man bearing a very similar experience to mine because I do not feel like I am bearing enough fruit in this life either. It is
easy also to feel like a hypocrite, knowing you are a sinner and fall short of the Way, Truth and the Life in Christ's Good Spirit encompassed.
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I say that the higher realities that almost certainly exist are infinitely complex expressions of consciousness and might have dark and light places,
but neither are the end-all of anything.
Baddogma
I say that the higher realities that almost certainly exist are infinitely complex expressions of consciousness and might have dark and light places,
but neither are the end-all of anything.
Relax and enjoy the ride.
I have been thru a spiritual event myself that was like taken from the bible, but from my point of view the information was more meant for me to not
think of the Christians faith as badly as I did since before that I thought all Christians and Muslims was insane dogmatic people, while I now only
think a smaller part of them are insane dualistic people.
Do you think that the information received from the other side is in some way made to fit the experience of the receiver? Also I have meet 3 psychics
and notice that sometimes they say messages that they think mean something but the specific words/information means something else since the psychics
do not know the real context of what they are saying. Also sometimes it seems that information get translated thru a ego projection filter and does
not come out as the original information.
I think the OP have had the experience the op should have but I think a buddhist would get a different experience that is suitable to that persons
spiritual evolution.
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Thank you for your testimony, your experience and your articulation of what transpired from this experience.
For what it is worth to you, or anyone, life is to be lived and with many experiences we learn, grow and depending one's "INTENTIONS" can move and be
one with God.
Yes, I said Intentions. Everyone has been blessed with their own journey....his and hers. As you grow and learn along this journey....the honesty of
your life, the soul, in your heart are partially determined by your knowingly and willingness to be honest about your 'intentions'.
These belong to you....God is forgiving, loving and wants each of us to grow even through our discrestions. But only you and God will truly know what
your belief, desires, honesty and acceptance of your mistakes because you are human....you are not perfect. However, once learned, what will be your
true, honest intentions to move forward and simply do the next right thing. What will your 'intentions' be?
Peace brother and good luck!!!
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I had a similar one many years ago...started quite innocuously, with me standing at the top of a small hill. Radiant sunshine lit a carpet of vivid
green grass and daisies like exclamation marks. While wandering in thought (since I had become quite comfortable with this) I began to wonder where I
was...no sooner had I begun speculating on its quality, I was transported to the pits. From the far walls of this pit, upon which shadowed outlines
were writhing in agony, gut curdling screams and moans reflected to my ears. Unbearably hot and dark and reeking of sulphuric redolence...this place
must have been hell.
All of a sudden, I was back on that hill, in the blinding sunshine and daisies and butterflies...a disembodied voice, high over my head (but somehow
within it) boomed..."This is 'real'...everything else is 'made-up'...what will you help in creating today?"
Subsequent dreams revealed the nature and the scope of the implications of what it means to be co-creator locked in a box of atomic slime, wreaking
havoc on this world and the myriad forms of created hell, perpetrated by well-meaning busy bodies, who would do well to spend less time posting the
self-referential 'I went to hell, met the devil, and survived' baloney, as if the explanation were not cut into solid rock...
2000+ years, and the creative vibrational mechanism of adherents of the 2nd most populace religion in modern times (and others espousing any similar
displays of ignorance) would do well to just stick to the basics, and follow the more commonly denominated 'commandments' of thier chosen
'faith'...it saves that awkward feeling that you are talking to men and women with minds like children...trying to convince 'sinners' that the
bogey-man is real because someone went to hell and survived...see, it must be real...
When you express the term 'co-creator', do you imply that we are on equal footing with our own Maker and that of the Heavens and earth? My path has
firmly determined we at this level of soul evolution are 'sub level' creators, for even though Granted will, we are still Contained to a degree in our
manifestation ability at this 'time' within this evil containing 'underworld', being prey (through the design of this flesh being) to the 'powers and
principalities of the air'.
Thank you very much for sharing your account, and although the enemy too can use dreams/astral experiences to spread seeds of falsity, I deeply felt
yours was via the Holy Spirit to further Reach and Teach. It aligned with the Foundational Truth that the Holy Kingdom has long espoused to it's
earthly children within this Designated earthen Testing field....with the greater Tests are still to come.
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I see you are prone to deep contemplation and thought which is a fine quality to bear as a seeker. Our intent can be prey to manipulation, hence we
are Called to be led by the Holy Spirit as Helper and not the carnal mind of this world. Thank you for sharing. www.biblegateway.com...
When you express the term 'co-creator', do you imply that we are on equal footing with our own Maker and that of the Heavens and earth? My path has
firmly determined we at this level of soul evolution are 'sub level' creators, for even though Granted will, we are still Contained to a degree in
our manifestation ability at this 'time' within this evil containing 'underworld', being prey (through the design of this flesh being) to the
'powers and principalities of the air'.
Thank you very much for sharing your account, and although the enemy too can use dreams/astral experiences to spread seeds of falsity, I deeply felt
yours was via the Holy Spirit to further Reach and Teach. It aligned with the Foundational Truth that the Holy Kingdom has long espoused to it's
earthly children within this Designated earthen Testing field....with the greater Tests are still to come.
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Not equal footing, no...the 'heat' from a candle flame is not as hot as the heat from a conflagration...and will do much less damage...or will
render its utility according to its potential...but a candle can initiate a conflagration!...which translates as, creativity has consequences,
sometimes not the ones you expected.
I'll respectfully disagree with the concept of a 'real' enemy...I was told that 'hell-worlds' were created by centuries of thought-form
projections, through a myriad of means - the mechanism being the (and to allay misunderstanding) co-creative function of free will, cause&effect
constructs on physical and non-physical levels...the bardos can be scary places...and FEAR can root you to the spot, unable to speak, unable to
move...believing they are 'real', will only prove thier manifestation...that is how they are powered...and like I said, 2000+ years of hypnotic
suggestion does manifest on other levels as hell...it's no longer a chicken and egg argument with this one, just the feedback loop of literature and
now USTUBE clips of how I went to hell and survived, should show this...writ large...
...but what did come first, was the ability to create them...that was part of the gift of free will...
Sometimes we tend to make things more complicated than they really are. Sometimes, the Believers who are of a more "deep thinking" nature, tend to
get so caught up in seeking to understand, that we forget that we have already been found by the Author and Finisher of life. I am guilty of this and
it is one reason for the great waning of my time spent here on ATS. Unless I feel a compelling leading to come to this place, I avoid it. We do not
glorify God when we engage in idle dispute and that is what the bulk of my time was spent doing here on ATS.
Our God seeks to be worshiped in Spirit and Truth, and only He knows Truth, only He can divulge that Truth. And He will divulge that Truth according
to His timing and purpose. I remind myself of this daily.
I don't know what your sin was, but if God has allowed such an experience to befall you, I can only assume your transgression involved dabbling in an
area that we, as Believers, are not to tread. We are allowed to be tempted, but we are to pray for the grace not to fall into it and God will always
provide us an exit opportunity. Our time is to be spent on the things of God, not chasing the ever-dangling carrot before the donkey.
God bless and go with God.
"Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is
admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things." Philippians 4:8
believing they are 'real', will only prove thier manifestation...that is how they are powered
I was told that 'hell-worlds' were created by centuries of thought-form projections
Hell was created for the entities of rebellion via the same Power that Created the earth and Heavens. If we are to weave in strange doctrines as
reality, then they will influence perception aside from the Truth.
If one does not subscribe to the notions of a healthy fear, then let that be your walk. To use a basic analogy, a parent Warning their child to be
aware in looking left and right as they cross a busy highway so as not to get splattered to pieces is not a negative at all in expressing a possible
outcome to walking blindly.
2000+ years of hypnotic suggestion does manifest on other levels as hell
So you then suggest that Christian Foundations are a 'hypnosis' upon humanity? www.bible-knowledge.com...
This thread was to to spread a message of Measure in Accountability for our actions beyond the flesh, pure and simple. If you and others do not
perceive those efforts by myself and others compelled to testify as such, then so be it respectfully.
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The thread is worthy in its message...the rationale-vehicle is not...
"Hell was created for the entities of the rebellion via the same power that created the earth and heavens." Quote PrimeLight
...fits nicely within the framework of a God of love for its creations?
"If we are to weave in strange doctrines as reality, then they will influence perception aside from the truth" Quote PrimeLight
"...believing they are 'real', will only prove thier manifestation...that is how they are powered" Quote akushla99
SPOT THE DIFFERENCE
Fear, being used by an Almighty intelligence is a kind of contradiction of intelligence...how intelligent do you think the Source is, considering it
would (in your analogy) need to employ a fear quotient to achieve a result?
Accountability is a different story.
All your efforts are duly noted!...and it is an open forum
"2000+ years of hypnotic suggestion does manifest on other levels as hell" Quote akushla99
"So you then suggest that Christian Foundations are a 'hypnosis' upon humanity?" Quote PrimeLight
Not all, and not in the same measure...no...but, repeat something often enough and it will become 'truth'...2000+ years of repetition is a long
time, my friend...
...fits nicely within the framework of a God of love for its creations?
When a creation becomes so far removed from Love (the original intention design to evolve toward the Way of it's Creator by Granted Will) and then
becomes an utterly destructive force against other Aspects of Creation, then it is a Righteous Justice that it is Appointed Destruction by it's
adopted de-evolution.
Fear, being used by an Almighty intelligence is a kind of contradiction of intelligence...how intelligent do you think the Source is, considering it
would (in your analogy) need to employ a fear quotient to achieve a result?
And I thought my analogy made plenty of 'intelligent' sense Where there is danger, a Loving wisdom Alerts to such. The following too is wisdom,
for there is much our limited consciousness can not comprehend still...
"For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55:9 King James
Bible
All your efforts are duly noted!...and it is an open forum Respectfully yours
Thank you sincerely as I accept our differences and do not think any less of you as my family on this earthen journey. Some elements will need to be
unraveled at their Appointed time still for a greater clarity...the details that will enhance perspectives to us both.