Any Physist that understandthe MATH in Einsteins theory of relitivity...or To be exact.

Phage
reply to post by micpsi

 

I disagree.
Eternity would be infinite. Therefore everything would happen. All at once.

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All at once?!?

That actually would be quite impossible. an illustration: In our normal day to day world, we observe events that do not take place simultaneously. Some events are a serial development of something, unfolding one "minor" event at a time. To see this, all One needs to do is to "look" around, the evidence is literally everywhere.

If "something" happens, there is change, movement; this creates the perception of time and this "time" exists within eternity. Not all events do not occur at once.

reply to post by symptomoftheuniverse


The present is an abstract illusion, a messy word you learned as a human to describe a concept that doesnt actually exist in reality. The present consists of constant and near infinite change, at many rates and on many levels.

reply to post by ImaFungi


Time is an abstract illusion.

reply to post by symptomoftheuniverse


You cant just make a statement and expect or hope or insist or know that it is right. So in that case you are wrong, I already have given many examples as to why time exists and is real; it is your fault for misunderstanding the meaning of the word time; it means change, time= energy transforming, energy changing. This occurs, therefore it is accurate to say the word time, refers to events that occur in reality, in fact the word time directly equals the phenomenon of events.

"the present", as you say is composed of countless particles and waves and atoms and molecules and chemicals and materials of energy, and all of this is different sizes, moving at different speeds in different directions, and interacting with one another at different forces, this is constantly occuring...because energy transforms. If energy did not transform or change, there would be no time, because nothing would occur. Time is only the sequence of cause and affect, energy transferring from one state to another, from one place to another, to one object or another.

Im sure we would agree that distance exists? There is a difference between a whole foot ball field and a half a football field? In the same sense, there is a different between a year and half a year, and a minute and half a minute, and a second and half a second.

reply to post by ImaFungi


Your wrong im affraid. You have already admitted that the present is an abstract perception. The present is all that exists. So hence forth how can time be real when we all live in the present,dont we?
Distance is another abstract perception. I dont think you understand that you can not prove a non conscious reality. We invent time/distance.
Edit. If you had a football field in empty space how would you know how big it was,what would you use to measure it?

reply to post by symptomoftheuniverse


Either you didnt read what I wrote or you didnt understand it.

Did you really just say distance doesnt exist? ... I think that may be a sign I should stop talking to you.

If distance doesnt exist im slapping you right now, and if time doesnt exist im slapping your great great great great great great great grandmother.

symptomoftheuniverse
reply to post by ImaFungi

 

If you had a football field in empty space how would you know how big it was,what would you use to measure it?

Holy crap man, you cant think at all, how does your brain work?

A foot ball field is an exact size, 100 yards, it is a shape, that means it has sides and an area. The sides and area has length. Half the football field would be 50 yards, you could start on one end and go till about half way, and you would know that there is more distance left. Please try and think before you spew these bogus thoughts. I hope you dont have a drivers license, children, and the ability to vote.

reply to post by ImaFungi


Lol my grandma would slap you back! Answer the question. You answered. Right. What is a yard? Put a yard stick in empty space,how would you tell it measures a yard?

symptomoftheuniverse
reply to post by ImaFungi

 

You have already admitted that the present is an abstract perception.

I have not admitted this, I have strictly admitted and showed the opposite to be true you foolish person.

The present is all that exists. So hence forth how can time be real when we all live in the present,dont we?

The present is a meaningless word, it does not refer to anything exact or anything that exists, it is abstract. You keep saying this because some unintelligent person on youtube or forums said this and without thinking you liked the feeling of it and now you say it... but it and you are wrong.

Distance is another abstract perception. I dont think you understand that you can not prove a non conscious reality. We invent time/distance.

Time is energy changing, what dont you understand about this you silly goosling? Do you feel me slapping you right now? I bet you dont because distance is real. How long does it take for you to microwave your tv dinners, no time at all? How long does it take for you to drive to mcdonalds? How far is mcdonalds, is it the same distance as your refrigerator? How long does it take to order your food at mcdonalds,present amount of time? Instantly (well it is fast food).

symptomoftheuniverse
reply to post by ImaFungi

 

Lol my grandma would slap you back! Answer the question. You answered. Right. What is a yard? Put a yard stick in empty space,how would you tell it measures a yard?

edit on 9-10-2013 by symptomoftheuniverse because: (no reason given)

Its tautological, just like numbers. 1 yard = 1 yard. 1 yards = 1 yard + 1 yard. So if you have a yard stick you know it equals a yard, if you have 2 you know it equals 2 yards. If you measure a piece of rope with a yard stick that rope equals a yard of distance, 2 yards of rope equals 2 yards. The words are arbitrary, a yard is man made, but the existence of distance is not man made, it is real. The yard, and inch, and foot, and mile are man made systems of consistently incremental measurement to overlay on top of the reality which contains stuff that exists in different places, the distance between you and me is a real distance of space, just like the distance between you and the sun is a real distance, the distance between you and the sun is larger then the distance between you and me. We can use incremental measurement systems to determine the difference in distance between objects. This sort of stuff is learned in 3rd grade. You are embarrassing me as a human.

reply to post by ImaFungi


You know when someone has lost an argument they become insulting,dont worry im used to it by now.
What if i told you the circumfernce of the british isles is infinatly long?

And try to be a bit more logical this time and you wont be as angry.

reply to post by ImaFungi


Al-gee your a fun guy

Forgive the Tetrahydrocannabinol its been a long day

ImaFungi

symptomoftheuniverse
reply to post by ImaFungi

 

Lol my grandma would slap you back! Answer the question. You answered. Right. What is a yard? Put a yard stick in empty space,how would you tell it measures a yard?

edit on 9-10-2013 by symptomoftheuniverse because: (no reason given)

Its tautological, just like numbers. 1 yard = 1 yard. 1 yards = 1 yard + 1 yard. So if you have a yard stick you know it equals a yard, if you have 2 you know it equals 2 yards. If you measure a piece of rope with a yard stick that rope equals a yard of distance, 2 yards of rope equals 2 yards. The words are arbitrary, a yard is man made, but the existence of distance is not man made, it is real. The yard, and inch, and foot, and mile are man made systems of consistently incremental measurement to overlay on top of the reality which contains stuff that exists in different places, the distance between you and me is a real distance of space, just like the distance between you and the sun is a real distance, the distance between you and the sun is larger then the distance between you and me. We can use incremental measurement systems to determine the difference in distance between objects. This sort of stuff is learned in 3rd grade. You are embarrassing me as a human.

all the above is your oppinion.what you percieve but your totally and very rudely wrong. And you should be embarrased. The distance is between your ears. You probably dont even know theres no such thing as a straight line. So appologise and admit you are arrogantly wrong,the worse kind of wrong.

I knew Commander Henry R Hatfield (1921-2010) - and I am honoured to say that.

Although he did see active service, involved in more than one sea battle against the German Navy during WW2, including the naval bombardment of Genoa in 1941. Recognised his brilliance, the Royal Navy transferred him to the hydrographical branch where he wrote many of the standard books still used today and was a key man in the post-war analysis of the Soviet Navy. And, as an amateur astronomer, he was an advisor to the BBC on the Apollo project.

...And Commander Henry Hatfield also happens to have been one of Einstein's keenest critics. Able to read and understnad The Theory of Relativity like a Einsteins equations as if it were a Grade One Maths project, he vehemently disagreed with Einstein's premises. In particular, he identified one particular equation where Einstein concludes that all 22 coefficients must be either Zero or One WITH NO BASIS WHATSOEVER for such an assumption. he also pointed out that the experiment that had "proved" Einstein correct, the Michelson-Moreley Experiment, had actually produced the precise OPPOSITE results when it was rerun a second and third time, several years later, a fact that "official science" chooses to ignore.

Mild mannered Henry never offered any theory of his own, but merely concluded that Einstein was wrong and that the puzzle was Relativity was merely unsolved.