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At a time when most movements that are thought to be progressive advocate further encroachments on individual liberty,[1] those who cherish freedom are likely to expend their energies in opposition. In this they find themselves much of the time on the same side as those who habitually resist change. In matters of current politics today they generally have little choice but to support the conservative parties. But, though the position I have tried to define is also often described as "conservative," it is very different from that to which this name has been traditionally attached. There is danger in the confused condition which brings the defenders of liberty and the true conservatives together in common opposition to developments which threaten their ideals equally. It is therefore important to distinguish clearly the position taken here from that which has long been known - perhaps more appropriately - as conservatism.
In the United States, where it has become almost impossible to use "liberal" in the sense in which I have used it, the term "libertarian" has been used instead. It may be the answer; but for my part I find it singularly unattractive. For my taste it carries too much the flavor of a manufactured term and of a substitute. What I should want is a word which describes the party of life, the party that favors free growth and spontaneous evolution. But I have racked my brain unsuccessfully to find a descriptive term which commends itself.
It may well be asked whether the name really matters so much. In a country like the United States, which on the whole has free institutions and where, therefore, the defense of the existing is often a defense of freedom, it might not make so much difference if the defenders of freedom call themselves conservatives, although even here the association with the conservatives by disposition will often be embarrassing. Even when men approve of the same arrangements, it must be asked whether they approve of them because they exist or because they are desirable in themselves. The common resistance to the collectivist tide should not be allowed to obscure the fact that the belief in integral freedom is based on an essentially forward-looking attitude and not on any nostalgic longing for the past or a romantic admiration for what has been.
I trust I shall be forgiven for repeating here the words in which on an earlier occasion I stated an important point: "The main merit of the individualism which [Adam Smith] and his contemporaries advocated is that it is a system under which bad men can do least harm. It is a social system which does not depend for its functioning on our finding good men for running it, or on all men becoming better than they now are, but which makes use of men in all their given variety and complexity, sometimes good and sometimes bad, sometimes intelligent and more often stupid."
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I think the world has moved beyond Hayek's definition of a Liberal and a Conservative. The current state is big Government, Conservatives want less of this, and so they are not Conservative in the classical definition. Seventy-five percent of the USG budget is social spending.
Ronald Reagan liked a lot of Hayek's stuff, as does Rush Limbaugh. I think most Lefties would consider both "Very Conservative."
FreeMason
Defining the American Conservative shows that they are less like the Conservative Hayek envisioned and more like classical liberals.
The men of the Founding are the idea men which a modern conservative should aspire to be. Hayek could not argue with this.
greencmp
FreeMason
Defining the American Conservative shows that they are less like the Conservative Hayek envisioned and more like classical liberals.
The men of the Founding are the idea men which a modern conservative should aspire to be. Hayek could not argue with this.
That is what Hayek says, he is late enough to the game that he had to make it clear that 'classical liberal' equals individualist. Mises still used the original and correct term 'liberal' to mean the same thing, a fact that is now lost to all but the most educated historians.
FreeMason
greencmp
FreeMason
Defining the American Conservative shows that they are less like the Conservative Hayek envisioned and more like classical liberals.
The men of the Founding are the idea men which a modern conservative should aspire to be. Hayek could not argue with this.
That is what Hayek says, he is late enough to the game that he had to make it clear that 'classical liberal' equals individualist. Mises still used the original and correct term 'liberal' to mean the same thing, a fact that is now lost to all but the most educated historians.
Well I don't see how the American Conservative is any different than the classical liberal, or at least any different than the revolutionary American.
They were just as intolerant of negotiating with tyrants or their supporters as any conservative today would be at negotiating with Democrats who quite literally fit the definition of tyranny.
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reply to post by greencmp
I think the world has moved beyond Hayek's definition of a Liberal and a Conservative. The current state is big Government, Conservatives want less of this, and so they are not Conservative in the classical definition. Seventy-five percent of the USG budget is social spending.
Ronald Reagan liked a lot of Hayek's stuff, as does Rush Limbaugh. I think most Lefties would consider both "Very Conservative."
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