Today the Fan has been turned on and the # is hitting it

As usual and very predictable.

It seems most of the hyped up sensationalist malarkey is coming from .....

guess who.

Yes, the Left Wing !!!

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


If we could get the liberals and the libertarians to work together to support common candidates, like they worked together to fight the Syria attack, we might pull it off. Both liberals and libertarians are against authoritarianism, they just have different ideas about the balance of socialism and capitalism. You can have welfare systems envisioned by the liberals that aren't overbearing and corrupt, many Europeans countries have proven this. You can also have free markets envisioned by the libertarians that aren't top heavy and corrupt.

But the most important thing that both sides can agree on is our government is too corrupt and too controlled by the financial sector and defense corporations. If we could agree to set aside our differences long enough to clean out the government of the bought and paid for politicians, we could then have an honest debate, free of overbearing corporate/banking/foreign interests and solve our problems in ways that benefit the majority of Americans and not just the corporate/banking/foreign interests.

What's New?

There is so much # piled around one would think someone would clean it up! If that's gonna happen. A small pile of # laying around is easy to clean up. Leave it lay around, more # is added to the pile that was their before.
Kinda like the Post Office. Still stuck in the 1800's, get a grip and downsize some junk mail only on Mon, Wens, Fri!

Just bringing up that one would have to say somebody In The Office has to be milking the Clock! Either way they still get their paycheck and nothing get's done! Back to the #!

Once the pile get's bigger, you either hide from it or shove it in the closet! Another pile come's along and get's kicked under the bed. That's how the US works. It's been that way for so long that the pile of # is coming to a town near you!

Depending how far you are from the city depend's on how much # you have to walk through just to have a good Day! It would be fine to have to step on some # from time to time; it's life. Nowaday's it goes downhill and if you do not have a pass, you must wait your turn or pay your way across a river of #!

We The People are doing nothing about it. It is set up that way anyway by the # people leaving their # everywhere! Some do try only they get alot of # because of it.

We The People need to start cleaning up their # soon or else I might as well build a boat! What else is their left to do?

sad_eyed_lady
At look at the current Drudge Headlines tell the tale:

POLITICS 'HAVE REACHED CIVIL WAR LEVELS'...
FILIBUSTER FAILS...
Obama adviser compares Republicans to terrorists, kidnappers, arsonists...
More unions turning...
Reid: 'There's No Need For Conversations'...
SENATE CHAPLAIN: 'Lord, deliver us from governing by crisis'...
BUCHANAN TO GOP: Fix bayonets!

It's time for those with the courage to do so, to become stand up comedians, and for those with the wherewithal, to create a new third party, and make damn sure that the joke is on this generation's leaders and those since JFK who wasn't Jesus mind you, but who was the last of the respectable and trusted leaders and who they gunned down only to graft onto the tree of liberty the fruits of evil "and you will know them by their fruits"

Personally I don't condemn Obama or any of them, on either side, but it's high time don't you think to change the whole system by introducing a whole new tier, in congress, the senate, and then the Presidency.

One whole generation has already been recruited on "our side", by their own folly and ignorance.

We're right there at that fundamental tipping point - so get out there and create a new culture, and a whole new socio-political establishment.

RELEVANT, is the operative word and now that they've become ir-relevant, there's a power vacuum available that "we the people" can fill, if we but dare to dream a new dream, but I'm Canadian so what do I know, eh?

I have a plan to make a billion dollars though, eventually, (it will be rags to riches, so don't get the wrong idea here) and as a friend to the US by God I'd be willing to give it all (or maybe half) over just to give America back to itself and then to the world, again. It's possible, maybe even inevitable, not my billion, but the transformation.

The "keepers of the flame" dropped the ball.

And now it's all up in the air, but, to quote Terrance McKenna, "if it's all totally 'out of control' then just who's control is it out of?"

Good humor is painful whereby "that which hurts, instructs" (Ben Franklin) and so there's surely enough comedic material there now to last for generations, looking back on it all, in hindsight, starting with the 9/11 event and thereafter trying to hurtle us all into some absurd Orwellian parallel universe that isn't worthy of who and what we are as human beings. We were abused and bullied but not any more.

And they messed up so bad that it's very easy to "take a stand" in relation to it all.

Oh everything's totally f'd yes, not just politically but socially, culturally, where there's a great loss of love let us say and a loss of desire for mutuality and win/win/win. It's devastating, and it's sad, but at the far end of all that nonsense and absurdity, and childishness, why lo and behold isn't there a light of hope and newfound possibility, as we enter into the remainder of the 21st century?

There HAS to be, and then it's there, recovered, like something almost forgotten, something almost lost from the quintessence of the very air we breathe, but like the taproot, remains, underneath, just waiting to come bursting forth from the ground of all being and becoming and surprising us with it's freshness and humor and creativity inviting us to forget about what's wrong and really focus on what is right, and from what was to what is and what ought to be according to a higher standard, at all levels, starting with the pursuit of Virtue by the lone individual (as the Greeks and others have sought out ie "the good life"), and in the process harnessing, like Jesus did, all power in the power to persuade and influence but according to universal principals of truth and justice, and liberation and freedom with a will to serve and not to be served by.

Someone's going to get the the last laugh, and it'll be the little guy, and it's already happening right now.

What we need are comedians and revolutionaries and makers of culture, not pop culture starring Miley Cyrus and Justin Bieber, but REAL artforms and all manner of novel creativity and good humor, even joy and celebration (at the self evident nature of the FAIL).

They lost. It was a complete fail.

Therefore, we win!

Time to come to power people. I'll raise ya a billion if I can, and we'll start a new party maybe "Progressive Conservative" just to mess with their heads while dividing the middle and coming to power.

Let's do it!

You in?

Do something, anything, get an idea to change the world and then change the world, what else can we do?

That's a high calling..


Godspeed America, Godspeed - best to get to the point of oblivion of a dead and dying culture as quick as possible and get it over with, so that we can start getting to the good stuff to the life as it was meant to be lived and enjoyed.

Best Regards,

NAM

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It would be nice one day if everyone did not vote. My understanding of it all, vote's do not matter anyway; either rigged or someone else is next in line just in case.

There is a school for this; hidden and that's how #heads get into office.

Then again if We The People would take the time to actually read what your voting on, you would be surprised what the fine Line Mean's!

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I don't understand modern GOP politicians need to be so unreasonable. Both liberal and conservative policies have made our Nation great. I don't understand why some GOP congressmen always want war and think it is a bad idea to even consider trying to talk to our enemies and work things out.

I mean it is not like if our Presidents attempt to talk problems out with Iran or whoever that just talking takes away America's ability to use it's vast military might if required.

It makes no sense to not tweak and change Obama care to make it good rather than just trying to burn it to the ground.

It really makes me wonder if those GOP are really serving the people who would lose money if USA actually could find ways to solve problems without war.

Ted Cruz is an unreasonable man and is not needed in our government. Our Government can never work if both sides start demanding everything they want in every bill they try to pass. It is ridicules.

reply to post by NewAgeMan


Well it would take more then Mill's to start another Party; if somehow they all do not disappear first! Then you would have to have Lawyer's like OJ'S at least 10 of them who know the Conitution and could not be payed off.

Next you would have to find 20 Good People who actually cared to make a change and put their life on it! Virtues are in a class pass on long ago.

Surly there has to be 20 people out there in a world of 7 Bill!

xuenchen
As usual and very predictable.

It seems most of the hyped up sensationalist malarkey is coming from .....

guess who.

Yes, the Left Wing !!!

See how funny it is?!

LOL oh the IRONY!

all those advocating for a political solution are spinning loose gear. Let that # fly, and something real can finally happen.

Wrabbit2000
reply to post by sad_eyed_lady

 

Perhaps this all can lead to citizens forming something viable toward 2016. This is showing better than anything how the party system has brought us to the brink of destruction, as you say. Personal in some cases, and national for us all. We can't survive much more of the partisanship used to cover the individual incompetence across both sides. It's just too much.... Something has to give.

changing people wont help. its like lord of the rings "precious" the wealth and power up for grabs. It would be like throwing one teenage boy out of the Ferrari and looking for another, is the result gonna be any different?

power corrupts and power has become so consolidated for this very reason.

Think about it. we could all virtually be living like the Jetson's or Back to the Future 2.. RIGHT NOW!!

except WHY? why aren't we? "too many of us" that's the reason. We are being setup for the biggest FAIL of ALL the USA.

SO, forever, the history books will show that no matter what you do, you cant escape the CROWN!

Unfortunately the House and Senate are overrun with Republicrats and Democans so we don't have a two party system... just one dysfunctional party

Xeven
reply to post by sad_eyed_lady

 

I don't understand why some GOP congressmen always want war and think it is a bad idea to even consider trying to talk to our enemies and work things out.

Ummm... ma'am... the President wanted to go to war with Syria. He's a Democrat.

Xeven
reply to post by sad_eyed_lady

 

I don't understand modern GOP politicians need to be so unreasonable. Both liberal and conservative policies have made our Nation great. I don't understand why some GOP congressmen always want war and think it is a bad idea to even consider trying to talk to our enemies and work things out.

I mean it is not like if our Presidents attempt to talk problems out with Iran or whoever that just talking takes away America's ability to use it's vast military might if required.

It makes no sense to not tweak and change Obama care to make it good rather than just trying to burn it to the ground.

It really makes me wonder if those GOP are really serving the people who would lose money if USA actually could find ways to solve problems without war.

Ted Cruz is an unreasonable man and is not needed in our government. Our Government can never work if both sides start demanding everything they want in every bill they try to pass. It is ridicules.

Ted Cruz has the most brilliant minds in Federal Government IMHO. More than that, I believe he has "We The People's" best interest at heart. I have been following him since his campaign. He drew my attention when he ran for office and made a commercial about the Fast and Furious when no other politicans were even talking about it. I wanted to see if he was the real deal or just using the issue to get elected.

He made alot of enemies by saying he didn't trust the Democrats or the Republicans. He talks to people and we kind of like feeling like we are being heard and alot of people like what he says. He has Libertarian ideology which I see as our best hope for the future. I hope he is the next president of our United (cough, cough) States.

Dershowitz: Ted Cruz one of Harvard Law’s smartest students

Cruz “was an outstanding student in my class,” Dershowitz said. “Without a doubt he is among the smartest students I’ve ever had… I’ve had great students but he has to be at the top of anyone’s short list, in terms of raw brain power.”

Read more: dailycaller.com...

That Sen. John McCain-D hates him is a plus as well. He threatens the status-quo which we all know could not be more corrupt.

As for Obamacare, a back room deal shoved down our throats, I hold little hope for it's tweakabiility, not even a massive overhaul. It is unconstitutional in that it takes a dump on the 1st Amendment rights and I am sorry if it seemed like an answer to your prayers, it won't be. Why couldn't the government haven taken our existing healthcare system and tweaked that like the doctors begged?

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Wanna bet?
Misuse if Kiss damn it.
It is metal that gave me part of my natural aggression so I could become recon.

reply to post by sad_eyed_lady

POLITICS 'HAVE REACHED CIVIL WAR LEVELS'... FILIBUSTER FAILS... Obama adviser compares Republicans to terrorists, kidnappers, arsonists... More unions turning... Reid: 'There's No Need For Conversations'... SENATE CHAPLAIN: 'Lord, deliver us from governing by crisis'... BUCHANAN TO GOP: Fix bayonets!

Meanwhile, back on the Ponderosa they are laughing and slapping each other on the back as they dine on high price caviar and wine. It is all one big joke as they jockey for position going into the next election.


Peace

darkbake
Thank you for bringing this up, it is entirely true. Neither party is willing to listen to the other party's perspectives, or even admit they are legitimate, even though they are often supported by tens of millions of other U.S. citizens.

The truth of the matter is, each party holds part of the solution - the only way that ANY reasonable solution is going to work is if there is COMMUNICATION and COMPROMISE and people are

ALLOWED TO SPEAK (I blame the liberals on this one, because they have been shutting down opposing viewpoints consistently with fear-based tactics as of late).

I've got two points to add to this...

A) This kind of bickering and sabre rattling happens EVERY FREAKING SEPTEMBER. It's the end of their fiscal year. Nobody wants to give in. Agencies SPEND any left over cash for fear that if they don't, it will cause them (100% likelyhood) to receive less for next years budget. Each and every year, the MSM makes it out to be an earthshattering event. Each and every year, folks (some, not all) wake up and pay attention to the kabuki being played out on the screen and become appalled. Why can't our elected officials balance their budget when I have to F#$%#$%ing do it on a weekly basis? Each and every year there is more and more drama, I swear, they honestly SHOULD treat it as Kabuki and put the frakking make up on, at least then it would be entertaining drama. Yes, we shut down once during the Clinton years, for what, a week? But that was once. These pathetic imbecilic corporate tools will raise the debt ceiling again (Remember kids, "Raising the debt ceiling doesn't increase debt!", and ice cream is good for computers, spoon it right in!), our taxes will EVENTUALLY go up, our savings will dwindle, and we will yet again be frakked for another year.

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble.

B) I watched Ted Cruz's filibuster. I was absofrakkinglutely appalled. To say it was childish, and a complete and utter waste of time, space, and valuable oxygen is an understatement. THIS is one entity that SHOULD be charged carbon credits for emitting so much CO2. I understand the historical basis for a filibuster, but in todays military and economic quagmire, what we need is actual cooperation. No, we need ACTION. Fewer words, more innovative ACTION. We NEED delegates who actually LISTEN to their constituents, not to the lobbyists. We need ELECTED OFFICIALS to REMEMBER who the FRAK pays their FRAKKING bills!!!!


Now, for a sweet little lullabye from our esteemed Mr Maynard James Keenan....

Don't fret precious I'm here,
step away from the window
and go back to sleep

Lay your head down child
I won't let the boogeyman come
Countin' bodies like sheep
To the rhythm of the war drums
Pay no mind to the rabble
Pay no mind to the rabble
Head down, go to sleep
To the rhythm of the war drums

Pay no mind what other voices say
They don't care about you, like I do, (like I do)
Safe from pain, and truth, and choice, and other poison devils,
See, they don't give a # about you, like I do.

Just stay with me,
safe and ignorant, go,
back to sleep, go
back to sleep

Lay your head down child
I won't let the boogeyman come
Countin' bodies like sheep
To the rhythm of the war drums
Pay no mind to the rabble
Pay no mind to the rabble
Head down, go to sleep
To the rhythm of the war drums

I'll be the one to protect you from
Your enemies and all your demons
I'll be the one to protect you from
A will to survive and a voice of reason
I'll be the one to protect you from
Your enemies and your choices son
They're one and the same
I must isolate you
Isolate and save you from yourself

Swayin' to the rhythm of the new world order and
Counting bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drums
The boogeymen are coming
The boogeymen are coming
Keep your head down, go to sleep
To the rhythm of the war drums

Stay with me
Safe and ignorant
Just stay with me
I'll hold you and protect you from the other ones,
The evil ones, don't love you son,
Go back to sleep.

reply to post by evictiongnostic

If we could get the liberals and the libertarians to work together to support common candidates, like they worked together to fight the Syria attack, we might pull it off. Both liberals and libertarians are against authoritarianism, they just have different ideas about the balance of socialism and capitalism.

Thanks so much for your reply. It's good to know so many feel the same. Sometimes it's hard to see that through the partisan fighting across virtually all forms of news today and most of the internet.

I think you're on the right track, but it goes deeper than that. I'm coming to believe that we truly ARE above the titles. It's an epiphany for being TRUE and ACCURATE, not simply politically correct and expected to be said.

Having seen Socialists and Liberals mixing with Conservatives and Republicans under trying and high stress circumstances...while working for a common cause, I've come to question just how much we even have different in points vs. talking points no individual, average people come up with? Oh, some extremes to both ends are beyond finding common ground. Perhaps forever...so lost they've become in the 2 sided system and no other way to think.

Still...The majority of normal folks? You know what was a shock to me in protests over the past couple years?

Talk to people...and without talking at them so they even know your political "side". It's amazing to find, one on one, the values and basic ideals of a common liberal citizen and the same for a common conservative citizen are not that far off at all. Even at that level? I think TOO many of the "deep" differences come because we expect them from the other and ready to counter something the other side expects of us.....whichever "us" each person identifies to.

We have to get back to the "American" party...not the politics. Politics sure is killing us. Perhaps literally at this rate. Quickly, seems self evident.

I find it amusing, actually. This government shutdown.

Since the left thinks that life begins and ends with government, the idea of a government shutdown is shocking.

Those that don't rely on government for every need look at it with as much interest as the PayLess Shoe Store closing.

Xcathdra

sad_eyed_lady
There is no change without crisis.

There is no change when the American people refuse to vote.

People need to stop bitching and actually get involved. We the American people brought this on ourselves by bitching while doing nothing more. We brought this on ourselves by refusing to participate in government. We brought this upon ourselves by refusing to fire the politicians who ignore their constituents. We brought this on ourselves the moment we developed the attitude of "someone else will vote and take care of the problem".

Regardless of how you personally identify your political beliefs, our elected officials must be reminded they took an oath of office, not an oath of party.

edit on 27-9-2013 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)

How about all the redcoats STOP ENFORCING TYRANNY!

Free Speech Zones!! really? OTHER THAN REDCOATS, who HARASSES protestors?

SO, what is it that people can do when redocats are THE GATEKEEPERS of the ELites corruption..

REDCOAT!

Mike6158
Unfortunately the House and Senate are overrun with Republicrats and Democans so we don't have a two party system... just one dysfunctional party

no, it's just the republicans...when the democrats win the presidency, and the senate stays in the democrats control, plus the house picked up democratic seats it doesn't mean the government is dysfunctional. it means the majority of Americans don't want republicans running the country....it's that simple.