Hoagland pic...Mars Curiosity "Pump" Anomaly???? Not a Rock...

reply to post by Vasa Croe


This is why we need to send astronauts at some point, so they can WALK UP TO SAID OBJECT and identify it. Sheesh, its like having an itch you cant scratch thats 40 million miles away. Thats one of the best ones yet. S&F.

smurfy

That's not totally fair, the glass tube bit was bandied about by many people

It's totally fair look at the image and read the names at the bottom.

Glass Tubes

Hoaxland's name is there isn't it !

reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin


Whats your deal man, You seem like you follow a code to suppress as much information as possible.
So what if its a rock or a object, its interesting, You should stop being so one sided.
That coin must be a double sided coin with the same face on each side. to me that is unfairness.

This object or rock is amazing find its showing us this amazing planet and what happens or happened on it. This might be a tip of the ice berg.

Vasa Croe



I think for NASA to have taken the time to take a picture of this object lends credence to their thinking it was of significance. .

What makes you think they took time to picture it ?

If it was of significance why would they not move the rover closer and NEVER show that object in any image the public would see.

That makes more sense than what you claim.

Hoagland... isn't that the guy who claimed that the Shaler outcrop was really little martians' flats? www.enterprisemission.com...

I don't wanna trawl through the whole thread (to save me sanity), but does anyone have original source link for the OP's image?

A rock can look very weird and have straight or circular features from various geological (or marsological) processes. Cracks and veins can form straight lines and right angles. Volvanic bubbles can leave round imprints. Don't be quick to declare something anomalous or unnatural.

Here's a recent image from Curiosity, of something that looks like a fossilised tree stump, or a stone seat, or a container of some sort:


But in an earlier image, taken from another angle, it looks pretty much a rock:

Since I can't edit my last post, I think it would be worthwhile to embed this image.




I had this PDF book from a number of years back that actually had pictures of Mars that showed debris that looked liked the rubble of human-like structures. I'll try and find it.

Has anybody noticed that the first three letters of 'Hoagland' & 'Hoax' are exactly the same.....Coincidence? I don't think so!

Glassbender777
Now I know what it reminds me of, The Emire Strikes Back, Probe during the first part of the movie.

OMG That's exactly what I thought when I saw it. Clearly it can't be because the Imperial Probe Droid was destroyed by Han Solo and Chewbacca on Hoth...

I usually just ignore these threads (because rocks seriously) but I'll give you that this doesn't look like any old rock. To me it kind of looks like a turret of some sort. I could see this object sitting on top of a robotic tank or something. Looks like the bottom is circular like a rotating base and the middle area could have housed some sort of hardware or electronics and the top could be a port for working on the internals. I'm not saying that's what it IS, or suggesting that it's alien, just that's what it looks like to me.

In all seriousness I wonder if it's a thruster or camera from one of the old orbiters / landers that crashed and burned over the years.

Check out some of the photos and diagrams on this page, it's a fairly common shape for random shuttle appendages.

Link

reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin


its not being discussed on the thread link you gave. its a 404 error Page

Def not a rock. looks like a wheel or gear. Ive always felt that mars was prolly gleaming with life billions of years ago. Maybe even as recent as the time of the dinosaurs. Perhaps many "local" planets were gleamimg with life billions of years ago and perhaps earth is one of the last life sustaining planets left? Maybe we came from mars or a parent race did. I dunno but if that item in the pick isnt from an ancient martian civilization then it could be from an american or russian rover but if thats the case the odd thing is that it looks very rusty. Doesnt there have to be oxygen in the atmosphere for things to rust? Or liquid h2o?

What a fascinating thread.
How it enables each character to play a part - the curious, the open-minded, the cynic, the squasher.
Human nature at its multi-faceted best.

Why are some so anxious I should see a rock?
Why do they care what I think?
Why do they not respect my own ability to form a view -- or retain an open mind?

Some who see a mechanical object seem to think they would feel better if others had the same view as them -- what is it that they are wanting from the other?

How many millions of civilisations have risen and fallen in the timeless infinity of space?
How many imagined they were the only one?

mistersmith.

Strange, a rusty looking piece of "rock" with a pipe, what else is out there?

duke396
I usually just ignore these threads (because rocks seriously) but I'll give you that this doesn't look like any old rock. To me it kind of looks like a turret of some sort. I could see this object sitting on top of a robotic tank or something. Looks like the bottom is circular like a rotating base and the middle area could have housed some sort of hardware or electronics and the top could be a port for working on the internals. I'm not saying that's what it IS, or suggesting that it's alien, just that's what it looks like to me.

In all seriousness I wonder if it's a thruster or camera from one of the old orbiters / landers that crashed and burned over the years.

Check out some of the photos and diagrams on this page, it's a fairly common shape for random shuttle appendages.

Link

edit on 28-9-2013 by duke396 because: (no reason given)

That is actually what I am thinking it is more and more...a part from a crashed prior mission, but it is still odd that there are no other parts in the picture. The NASA pic actually has a fairly wide field of vision in the photo and I can't see anything else in it that looks out of place.

My initial thoughts were that this was a part of a soil sampling system or camera from a prior crashed mission. I don't know enough about prior missions to say anything positively though.

wmd_2008

Vasa Croe



I think for NASA to have taken the time to take a picture of this object lends credence to their thinking it was of significance. .

What makes you think they took time to picture it ?

If it was of significance why would they not move the rover closer and NEVER show that object in any image the public would see.

That makes more sense than what you claim.

Maybe because they took the time to take a picture of it? I have not claimed anything as I don't know what it is.....just feel like something that does not resemble a rock to a lot of people would deserve some "face time" from NASA.

reply to post by Vasa Croe


But what makes you think they took the time to take a picture of it, rather than simply taking a sequence of images of the surrounding terrain, with the funky rock just happening to be there?

If someone could please link to the raw image on the official page, we could tell if this was a panorama.

This artist`s rendering of the mars climate explorer, that crashed, shows a pretty good view of something that resembles what is in the picture.

Theres a round pole shaped object that the solar panels are attached to as well as a tapered top section.




I think it`s probably just a rock though because I can see a large dark crack starting near the center and
moving down towards the bottom right.

Vasa Croe
That is what is so strange to me....

It has what appears to be a couple sections to this object...a top, that looks like a small "hubcap", a middle with what appears to be a cylindrical tube protruding from it and a bottom and that all appear to be very symmetrical and almost "fitted" together so either all parts may rotate or possibly just the center or outer pieces.

Just seems WAY too "perfect" to have been formed naturally in my opinion.

To me, it resembles a liquid cooled bearing housing with a pipe attached instead of a flange hook-up, which are common...They come in a myriad of configurations...

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reply to post by Vasa Croe


That's the top part of my shop vac.