My name is David Paulides and for the last 4 years I've been investigating people missing in the wi

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David,

What case - if any - has you completely baffled or still hangs with you to this day?

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Nearly every case we have documented has us stumped, that's why they are in the books.
Charles McCullar- Crater Lake
Derrick Engebretson-Crater Lake
Samuel Boehlke-Crater Lake
Each of these cases has specific elements that baffle the mind how they disappeared and why Engebretson and Boelke were never found.

DavidPaulides
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" We interviewed the ranger that found this man, 13 mile back in the wilderness under very, very unusual circumstances."

Starting to hate all the buzzwords. Heres the story for everyone else. Seems pretty clearcut.

October 14


While inventorying the contents of a nearly empty, dirty, ripped and torn backpack, Rangers Larry Smith and Marion Jack discover a Volkswagen key in a zippered side pocket. A suggestion is made to compare the VW key with a Xerox copy of a VW key from the Charles McCullar file, who was thought to have disappeared somewhere in the Park a year and half earlier. An “electric charge” went through the two rangers as the overlaid key made a perfect fit. A horse patrol, lead by Marion and Dave Lange set out immediately to search the area where the backpack had been found. At 1:30 p.m. the radio call came that McCullar’s remains had been found, scattered over and down a steep bank of the Bybee Creek drainage, four miles from Lightning Springs. The FBI is called in to complete the investigation.

McCullar’s cause of death is ruled by natural causes, but the mystery remains how it was possible for McCullar to have walked from the North Entrance, on top of 105 inches of new snow, 14 miles into Bybee Creek, especially considering that the young man was not prepared for winter survival. One theory is that McCullar may have followed snowmobile tracks, but the machines are not allowed into remote areas of the Park and secondly, the new snow was so fresh and deep, it would have been impossible for snowmobiles to have traveled the distance.

So, just how McCullar was able to get into the Bybee Creek drainage remains conjecture, as does his exact cause of death. The boy’s father remains convinced that his son was the victim of foul play because none of McCullar’s expensive camera equipment was ever found.

With camera equipment missing and the place where the body was found known it seems he was robbed and dumped by a person or people.
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No way he was robbed and dumped.
He was found 14 miles into the woods across 20' deep snow drifts with over 105" of new snow on the ground. The NPS was completely stymied for an explanation about he he got to where his body was found, especially since he disappeared in the middle of winter.
The ranger we interviewed stated it was an impossibility for McCullar to walk into that area that time of year and there were no snowmobiles allowed in the park. They searched from air and did not find any tracks leaving the area where McCullar was last seen. How he got into that area is part of the Mystery. Where was his boots, coat and other items? Why were his pants pulled down to his socks? All questions that led the ranger to call for an FBI Evidence Response Team

Well since they rode out on horseback to the place the pack with the key was found I can assume it was no longer winter. From that one can surmise he was killed, and maybe dumped later. Its not that hard.

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Well since they rode out on horseback to the place the pack with the key was found I can assume it was no longer winter. From that one can surmise he was killed, and maybe dumped later. Its not that hard.
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No, that's not what happened. The forensic team determined that the remains were there for one winter, they weren't dumped. Very, very little crime ever happens in that park.
He probably died within days of when he vanished.
McCullar vanished in the middle of winter.
Summer hikers found the body, rangers rode out to investigate.

Lately I have been hearing very strange things and getting VERY strange vibes from my woods.

I have heard a growl on 1 occasion.

I have heard a vicious growl very close to me on 1 occasion, yet when I opened my eyes to look around seen NOTHING near me, nor heard anything. (Yes I am sure it happened. Positive.)

I have heard a strange sound akin to a mix between a growling howl and a real life cow's moo. Maybe an animal, but it's a new sound and unlike anything I've ever heard in my entire life on the property.

Does this sound like it could be bigfoot? It's really got me on edge

I live in the woods of West Virginia
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winnar
Drop it.
We can argue it in another thread.

@ David

"Just because a tent pole has collapsed does not indicate a struggle. If we have four tent poles all collapsed in the same manner, all with people who have vanished and never found, hmm, there is a connection."

I said the tent pole was broken as it also says @ canammissing, You changed it to collapsed just now and I almost missed it.

@ David

Again then, what conclusion have you come up with that links these together and makes it so "unusual"? You keep skipping answering this part.

DavidPaulides
Why were his pants pulled down to his socks?

Are you infering bigfoot rape?

More likely explanation, hypothermia.

Often, in extreme cases, people may think they are hot and start removing layers, and victims lost in cold weather have actually been found dead with most of their clothes off.

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I had almost the same thing you describe happen while visiting relatives, and it ended up being a wild boar. From what I can find there are some in WV, and hunting permits are issued for them. They were an introduced species, not natural, and it appears they aren't very numerous. If it is a Wild boar, know that they are very dangerous and can gore/kill humans, so be careful.

DavidPaulides
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Well since they rode out on horseback to the place the pack with the key was found I can assume it was no longer winter. From that one can surmise he was killed, and maybe dumped later. Its not that hard.
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No, that's not what happened. The forensic team determined that the remains were there for one winter, they weren't dumped. Very, very little crime ever happens in that park.
He probably died within days of when he vanished.
McCullar vanished in the middle of winter.
Summer hikers found the body, rangers rode out to investigate.

Frankly there is still nothing that unusual except for all his equipment to be missing. I mean it was stated his remains were found over and down a steep bank. Could have fallen, broken a leg, died. Plenty of normal causes. As for the snow, more details would be helpful. 14 miles isnt really that far. And weather is entirely unpredictable. Could have snowed after he left and trapped him where he was, it even could have not snowed where he was while it dumped all over another area. Happens here in PA all the time. In fact just about 14 miles from where I am either north or south, it snows a lot more than it does here.

It just seems to m a whole lot of if and not much theory or anything else. There are plenty of rational explanations that you seem to just gloss over while you repeat buzzwords like "unusual."

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Lately I have been hearing very strange things and getting VERY strange vibes from my woods.

I have heard a growl on 1 occasion.

I have heard a vicious growl very close to me on 1 occasion, yet when I opened my eyes to look around seen NOTHING near me, nor heard anything. (Yes I am sure it happened. Positive.)

I have heard a strange sound akin to a mix between a growling howl and a real life cow's moo. Maybe an animal, but it's a new sound and unlike anything I've ever heard in my entire life on the property.

Does this sound like it could be bigfoot? It's really got me on edge

I live in the woods of West Virginia
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Without knowing exactly what you heard, hard to say.
I will say that there have been many strange disappearances in WV.
As I stated earlier,don't go into the woods alone, carry a personal transponder and carry a firearm.
Be safe!!

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@ David

Again then, what conclusion have you come up with that links these together and makes it so "unusual"? You keep skipping answering this part.
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As I've stated numerous times on this thread, it's not one element that makes the case, its numerous.
When 30 cases are profiled and linkage is made between a handful, it isn't one element that makes the linkage, it's several. This is why I wrote three books on the topic and why I've stated three times on this thread, many readers have commented, "I didn't get it until I was half way threw the books, then lights started flashing."

I wish I could stay all night and translate the books to the thread, but that would be ridiculous....

Thanks

How do you determine as an investigator, if a person is missing because they want to disappear? As opposed to someone that is missing for other reasons.

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Hey guy, how about you show some respect and refrain from all these questions???
THE ADMIN NOTES make it clear that you are to ask ONE question so that others can ask too.
Can you please stop? I'm being nice. Thanks guy.
Seriously, its like your intentionally trying to find cracks and faults here, show some respect and move on.
Thank you.

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Are you infering bigfoot rape?

More likely explanation, hypothermia.
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Hahahaha, good one!!!
Please point me in the direction where I inferred that.

I only state facts.
We have other cases where hikers have been found with their pants pulled down to their ankles and they were dead.

Hypothermia causes people to pull their pants down to their knees?
Hmm, I've never heard of that happening on Everest....

Heard a theory on C2C the other day in reference to the Loch Ness Monster which could apply to Bigfoot. The theory is that the Loch is a sort of time portal and under certain celestial alignments a time slip is created and the pre-historic creature becomes visible in our space time and when the alignments dissipate the creature is no longer visible in our space time.

There have been reports in US Southwest of people seeing dinosaurs this century could apply to Bigfoot Never heard the theory before just throwing it out there.

Thanks

David,

In the three 411 books I noticed that you never actually came out and said what you actually think is happening in the majority of these events.

I got the impression that there is a small portion that are likely human abductions but the majority of the incidents don't suggest this.

What exactly do you think is behind these incidents?