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If an ET civilization wanted to make contact with Earth, and not either biocontaminate this planet or get biocontaminated itself [as in War of the Worlds], it would do so by EMS transmission from an insulated distance. That means space, not even our atmosphere (which is bioalive). That's about as far as I can go on this, but, really, think about it.
AN EXTRAORDINARY "hyperspace" engine that could make interstellar space travel a reality by flying into other dimensions is being investigated by the United States government.
The hypothetical device, which has been outlined in principle but is based on a controversial theory about the fabric of the universe, could potentially allow a spacecraft to travel to Mars in three hours and journey to a star 11 light years away in just 80 days, according to a report in today's New Scientist magazine.
The theoretical engine works by creating an intense magnetic field that, according to ideas first developed by the late scientist Burkhard Heim in the 1950s, would produce a gravitational field and result in thrust for a spacecraft.
Also, if a large enough magnetic field was created, the craft would slip into a different dimension, where the speed of light is faster, allowing incredible speeds to be reached. Switching off the magnetic field would result in the engine reappearing in our current dimension.
www.scotsman.com/news/sci-tech/welcome-to-mars-express-only-a-three-hour-trip-1-686425
JayinAR
However, if you can warp the space around your craft into the shape of a wave any matter in front of you will be warped around you. There was a thread here not too long ago that dealt with this. It was based on the work they are currently doing at JPL. The idea is to, somehow, use the universe's rate of expansion as you method of ftl travel, and accelerate from there.
ImaFungi
reply to post by maquino
Do you think what you described in this post is the final frontier of space travel (anti matter propulsion I think you said)? If not have you imagined what the next steps would be, what are some other ways uber superior intelligences could zip around? Do you think there is an ultimate limit to the evolution of technology...I mean thats a silly question, obviously there is because there are laws and limits, but I guess from our perspective im asking how much farther would you say there is to go, and whats the game plan when one gets there?
ImaFungi
Do you think what you described in this post is the final frontier of space travel (anti matter propulsion I think you said)?
maquino
...In science itself, misunderstandings of concepts like "special relativity" have led to mathematical nonsense like "higher dimensions"...
The GUT
Where do Set--and presumably other beings--reside when they aren't visiting us? I ask you, because I sincerely want your take on this and assume you might have enough experience/knowledge to expand on the question.
[Allan Quatermain] “I have heard of Isis of the Egyptians, Lady of the Moon, Mother of Mysteries, spouse of Osiris whose child was Horus the Avenger.”
[Ayesha] “Aye, and I think will hear more of her before you have done, Allan, for now something comes back to me concerning you and her and another. I am not the only one who has broken the oaths of Isis and received her curse, Allan, as you may find out in the days to come. But what of these heavenly queens?”
“Only this, Ayesha: I have been taught that they were but phantasms fabled by men with many another false divinity, and could have sworn that this was true. And yet you talk of them as real and living, which perplexes me.”
“Being dull of understanding doubtless it perplexes you, Allan. Yet if you had imagination, you might understand that these goddesses are great principles of nature: Isis of throned Wisdom and strait virtue, and Aphrodite of Love as it is known to men and women who, being human, have it laid upon them that they must hand on the torch of life in their little hour. Also you would know that such principles can seem to take shape and form and at certain ages of he world appear to their servants visible in majesty, though perchance today others with changed names wield their sceptres and work their will. Now you are answered on this matter.”
I’m a man in search of his true self. How archetypically American can you get?
Everybody’s looking for his true self. We’re all trying to fulfill ourselves, understand ourselves, get in touch with ourselves, get ahold of ourselves, face the reality of ourselves, explore ourselves, expand ourselves.
Ever since we dispensed with God, we’ve got nothing but ourselves to explain this meaningless horror of life. We’re all weekending at est or meditating for forty minutes a day or squatting on floors in a communal OM or locking arms in quasi-Sufi dances or stripping off the deceptions of civilized life and jumping naked into a swimming pool filled with other naked searchers for self.
Well, I think that true self, that original self, that first self, is a real, mensurate, quantifiable thing, tangible and incarnate. And I’m going to find the f**ker!
Isha Schwaller de Lubicz, Her-Bak
O Her-Bak. O Egypt. You are the temple which the neter of neters inhabits. Awaken him ... then let the temple fall crashing.
ImaFungi
Yes, I understand what you mean, but I was not referring to science fiction. I thought this thread was about UFOs and intelligence and nature and science. I was merely asking how far beyond antimatter thrusters do you posit an intelligent specie can create a propulsion vehicle? Or is propulsion most likely the only form of possible space travel, so the highest evolved and most intelligent life forms in the universe will be fated to cap off at this discovery?
corsair00
My particular favorite testimony comes from a Corporal who was called in to a UFO crash site in Peru. His descriptions of the craft and occupants are very compelling.