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BigfootNZ
reply to post by OneManArmy
Thing is has there been any actual proof the TR3B actually even exists?
Hey I believe its real personally, but given all the info and where its come from theres nothing showing such a machine has ever existed outside of conjecture.
Heck the TR3B may simply be an explanation made up to explain things as the sightings you mentioned.
JimTSpock
reply to post by OneManArmy
Study physics yourself and see if you can do anti-gravity. Good luck with that. It's almost like some of you know very little about science and physics. We can't just do anything.
Seriously anti-gravity is about as amazing as aliens.
Seriously if I actually saw a man made craft capable of complete manipulation of gravitational fields or anti-gravity system my mind would be utterly blown. An alien standing in front of me would be about equal with that.
Scientifically speaking anti-gravity is about on par with warp speed or faster than light craft or teleportation.
According to Einstein's general relativity it is not possible. But he was wrong about a few things so there's still hope. Our current standard model of physics does not include anti-gravity unfortunately. But one day it might I hope.edit on 19-9-2013 by JimTSpock because: add
JimTSpock
reply to post by OneManArmy
We are still working on a unified theory which will unify general relativity and quantum physics.
OneManArmy
JimTSpock
reply to post by OneManArmy
We are still working on a unified theory which will unify general relativity and quantum physics.
That cracks me up every time I hear the scientists explain that one.
Just the thought of explaining the whole universe with a simple "beautiful" equation makes me wet myself with laughter...
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OneManArmy
JimTSpock
reply to post by OneManArmy
We are still working on a unified theory which will unify general relativity and quantum physics.
That cracks me up every time I hear the scientists explain that one.
Just the thought of explaining the whole universe with a simple "beautiful" equation makes me wet myself with laughter...
When they say a "beautiful unified field theory", they are NOT talking about a simple one-liner equation that explains everything as simply as e=mc2 explains that matter and energy have an equivalence. They know a unified field theory will be more complex than that.
However, even if the equations are complex, they can still be "beautiful" (in the eye of the beholder) because they will unify all four forces as different aspects of a single "Superforce" -- and that is a beautiful idea to some.
The idea itself is not complex at all -- i.e., that the four forces (the strong nuclear force, weak nuclear for, electromagnetic force, and the gravitational force) can be unified. The electrical force and magnetic force were once thought to be separate, but they have successfully been unified, and is now known to be a single force (with two different aspects -- electricity and magnetism). There are working theories that attempt to combine the weak nuclear force with the electromagnetic force.
If you put enough energy into a system (such as via an extremely powerful particle accelerator), there is some evidence that the separation between the forces tend to go away. The idea is that the early universe was an extremely energetic place, and in that soup that was the early and energetic universe, there were not the separate forces we see today, but only one -- and that one force was like the parent of those other forces, and (seemingly) separated into the forces we see today, after the universe cooled a bit.
THEREFORE, if all of the forces we see today were born out of a single parent force that existed in the early universe, then they must all be simply different aspects of that single parent force, and can thus be unified by equations.
And that's what makes it a beautiful.
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mysterioustranger
Kinda like that cassarole my wife baked Tuesday....
JimTSpock
reply to post by OneManArmy
Study physics yourself and see if you can do anti-gravity. Good luck with that. It's almost like some of you know very little about science and physics. We can't just do anything.
Seriously anti-gravity is about as amazing as aliens.
Seriously if I actually saw a man made craft capable of complete manipulation of gravitational fields or anti-gravity system my mind would be utterly blown. An alien standing in front of me would be about equal with that.edit on 19-9-2013 by JimTSpock because: spelling
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JimTSpock
reply to post by OneManArmy
Study physics yourself and see if you can do anti-gravity. Good luck with that. It's almost like some of you know very little about science and physics. We can't just do anything.
Seriously anti-gravity is about as amazing as aliens.
Seriously if I actually saw a man made craft capable of complete manipulation of gravitational fields or anti-gravity system my mind would be utterly blown. An alien standing in front of me would be about equal with that.edit on 19-9-2013 by JimTSpock because: spelling
You seem to be saying "it is technology far beyond what humans can figure out -- therefore it must be alien".
My point is that if aliens can figure it out, then why not humans? If you believe an alien can make a technology (inertial dampeners/g-force compensator/whatever) that allows it not to not suffer bodily harm due to g-forces, then why do you feel that technology is beyond human understanding.
I'm don't necessarily believe humans have this tech -- I'm just stating hypotheticals for the sake of discussion.
In fact, let's take "bodily harm due to g-forces" out of this discussion altogether. Going back to what the OP asked, If there was ever a positive no-doubt-about-it identification of a craft that acceleration 0-8000 mph in seconds, then how do we know it isn't an advanced technology (human-made) military robotic drone? -- i.e., a craft with no pilot/reduced concern for g-forces.
I guess I'm trying to address the OP's point about a craft that goes from 0-8000 mph as necessarily being alien (he didn't say "alien", but let's go with that) when we can't assume it IS alien based solely on the fact that it accelerated at fantastic speeds.
OneManArmy
...But by the simple mathematics of probability, it would be insane to think we are the only life in the universe.
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OneManArmy
...But by the simple mathematics of probability, it would be insane to think we are the only life in the universe.
I personally believe there is almost certainly other intelligent life in the universe (even in our galaxy), based on the sheer size of the universe...
HOWEVER, I am yet to be convinced intelligent ETs are visiting Earth in space ships. Maybe they are, but I personally don't have enough evidence to believe they are.
To me, these are two separate issues.
JimTSpock
reply to post by OneManArmy
Study physics yourself and see if you can do anti-gravity. Good luck with that. It's almost like some of you know very little about science and physics. We can't just do anything.
Seriously anti-gravity is about as amazing as aliens.
Seriously if I actually saw a man made craft capable of complete manipulation of gravitational fields or anti-gravity system my mind would be utterly blown. An alien standing in front of me would be about equal with that.edit on 19-9-2013 by JimTSpock because: spelling