media blackout regarding the flooding at fracking sites in colorado????

www.texassharon.com...

i'm not hearing much about the fracking sites being flooded but apparently they are a mess and probably leaking toxic water out into the flood waters. anyone have any other information on this??

colorado is STILL getting rain and it even hailed in aurora yesterday. they really need a break!!

We'll take some of that rain over here in Cali. It's been at least 7 months since our last precipitation. Good luck over in Colorado.

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i'm in a severe drought area too (in the middle of texas). i THINK it's going to rain this week. trees are dying and we're not allowed to water more than once a week. it's really really bad here

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WowI had not even considered this, but yea that has to be a mess. They usually store the used(contaminated)water in make shift ponds with a liner. That plus any residual chemicals in the drilled areas themselves would make a nasty mess as it mixes with everything, connecting all water above and beneath. This is probably one of their lessor concerns at the moment but still an issue. The link says Bandwidth Limit Exceeded, so I can't read the article and there seems to be no other sources on this?

ETA: Thanks Skuly
Another link -www.dailykos.com...

Update: People living in Weld County contacted me a few minutes ago and they are now receiving many press calls about the underwater, leaking oil and gas facilities.
Citizen journalism works!

Yay, now I wonder if it will spread, the news that is.

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Found the facebook page i'll start a look for other links

FACEBOOK/EAST BOULDER

Bit more.

Daily Kos or click that one by speculativeoptimist above (he types quickly)

I see you’ve noticed the underwater wells in Weld County, Colorado. Amazing; we’ve emailed the Denver TV stations, other media, and state and local politicians. We’ve sent pictures that our members have taken. It’s like the media and politicians have been TOLD not to say anything about it. There has been no mention of the gas wells on the Denver newscasts either last night or this evening although all stations have had extensive and extended flood coverage. You can see underwater wells in the background of some of the newscast videos, and yet the reporters say absolutely nothing. Here’s a picture one of our members took yesterday in Weld County, Colorado.

We’ve got tons more on our website. Check it out. The tanks are tipping and, in some cases, have fallen over. They have to be leaking toxins into the flood waters. There have to be hundreds if not thousands of underwater well pads in Weld County as a result of the flooding. Please publicize this in Texas since our media people and politicians have gone silent!

wonder whats in those drums?

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thanks for that facebook find! i have friends in colorado and i'll share that with them.

ETA i saw the daily kos post but thought i'd post the original link. i think since the kos posted it's been getting more traffic than it can handle so it's not loading anymore.

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Get a clue!!!! Rain doesn`t mess with fracking, nor does fracking cause earthquakes, pollution, bad water or anything else that might hurt your tree hugging life style. I love the wilderness and wild life too, but we can use our resources responsibly!

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nor does fracking cause earthquakes,

Before you make your claims, a little research may benefit us all.
www.sciencemag.org...
www.usgs.gov...
www.nbcnews.com...
www.nap.edu...
www.newrepublic.com...
www.desmogblog.com...

Skydog88
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Get a clue!!!! Rain doesn`t mess with fracking, nor does fracking cause earthquakes, pollution, bad water or anything else that might hurt your tree hugging life style. I love the wilderness and wild life too, but we can use our resources responsibly!

I beg to differ

Fracking cause of earthquakes Blackpool UK - BBC

Fracking causing earthquakes in Texas US

UK Govt - Fracking causes pollution

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Ha, you beat me to it. There is just so much evidence to show fracking is bad. Im sure we could post links all day long.

wonder whats in those drums?

Urgh, that does not look good at all.

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first off i never said rain had anything to do with fracking. i said the flood waters have FLOODED the fracking sites and the containment drums are tipping over. what you're talking about is not at all what this thread is about. if you want to talk about fracking itself.... and whether or not it causes harm, earthquakes, etc.... find another thread on fracking. this is about the flood and turning over the containment drums and the dirty frack water leaking into the flood waters. DIFFERENT SUBJECT.

ETA - i do think fracking is bad and i've read plenty of evidence to back that up.

I don't think there is really a media black out as there is a story from the denver post from yesterday www.denverpost.com...

I haven't checked to see if the BIG networks picked up the story yet, but I suppose that the state of emergency as far as accounting for lost persons and their immediate safety that the environmental portion of the disaster will come in the following days.

Mnemicrsl
We'll take some of that rain over here in Cali. It's been at least 7 months since our last precipitation. Good luck over in Colorado.

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where are you at in Cali, im in Joshua Tree. We have been getting lots of rain out here. hwy 62 has been flooded three times in less then a month and our dirt road has been washed out.

Outside of ATS, Reddit, Twitter the whole entire event is barely being talked about, let alone one aspect of it. This is a huge disaster... add all those fracking chemicals ugh... no one smoke near any water.

I have worked in the gas industry for seven years now.

There is nothing about frac'ing that flooding could affect to the detriment of
anything other than the crew and equipment.

Frac'ing involes pumping high-pressure fresh-water and sand into the ground
to open fissures in the shale strata---that's it. The water from frac'ing comes
from farmer's ponds, area lakes, and local resources. The water is sometimes
pumped into man-made ponds for convenience but it is clean.

The drilling process, however, uses drilling mud which is kept in small man
made ponds or frac tanks or some other type of reservoir. There is generally
not very much of it (a few truckloads) but if a pad were flooded it could pose
a leaking hazard, or spill completely.

Still, not to worry. Guess what we do with drilling mud when the drilling
process is over? We take truckloads of it to farm lands and dump it onto onto
the fields....it makes excellent fertilizer

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Frac'ing involes pumping high-pressure fresh-water and sand into the ground to open fissures
in the shale strata---that's it

"That's it?" Excuse me?

Most of the wells in the basin are drilled into ‘tight sand’ formations that require the same fracking technology being used in shale formations. This process involves injecting a slurry of water, chemicals and sand into wells at high pressure to fracture the rock and create veins that can carry trapped gas to the well. Afterwards, companies need to pump out the fracking fluids, releasing bubbles of dissolved gas as well as burps of early gas production.

www.nature.com...
More links:
www.scientificamerican.com...
fracfocus.org...
www.businessinsider.com...
www.wv4mom.org...
conservationco.org...

Any fracking going on around the Denver Airport? It would be satisfying to hear that those secret underground tunnels have sprung a leak.

speculativeoptimist
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Frac'ing involes pumping high-pressure fresh-water and sand into the ground to open fissures
in the shale strata---that's it

"That's it?" Excuse me?

Most of the wells in the basin are drilled into ‘tight sand’ formations that require the same fracking technology being used in shale formations. This process involves injecting a slurry of water, chemicals and sand into wells at high pressure to fracture the rock and create veins that can carry trapped gas to the well. Afterwards, companies need to pump out the fracking fluids, releasing bubbles of dissolved gas as well as burps of early gas production.

www.nature.com...
More links:
www.scientificamerican.com...
fracfocus.org...
www.businessinsider.com...
www.wv4mom.org...
conservationco.org...

Lol...thanks for the reference material. I do this every day, six days
a week, twelve hours a day, for over six years

You can trust any source you want...but I will trust my own eyes, my
own experience, and my own research.

When "GasLand" and the other scary documentaries about frac'ing came
out I became concerned that what I was doing was harming the environment
in some sort of catastophic and completely unreasonable way. so I started
researching. What exactly was in this water and sand "slurry" (as you put it)
(BTW it is not a slurry--it is a WHOLE LOT of water, a little bit of sand, and
a minute amount of chemicals) that I was pumping into the ground?

It turns out that most of the "chemicals" were actually detergents (soap).
The really bad ones were basically antiseptics that keep dangerous H2S
gases from forming. Nothing very nefarious at all. I drive a truck that transports
these chems and am required by OSHA to have a complete manifest of ANY
chemicals that are toxic in any way at my fingertips at all times.

To be honest I wouldn't want to drink any of it, but it is not nearly as
dangerous as has been portrayed.

Like I have stated before, the danger is not in the frac'ing process. The
water is sent down and the shale is pressurized. Then the water and gas
comes back up and the pressure is relieved.

If you want to know what I DO consider to be a threat, research what
happens to the waste water that comes back up after frac'ing....