Assad: "EXPECT EVERYTHING" IF US STRIKES

Assad knows he will get his ass handed to him if any strike occurs and he retaliates.. All he can do is talk tough and act like he's big..

If Iran, Syria, and any other middle eastern country attacks Israel they know they will be brought to their knees..

Lets face it, Israel has nukes, they win.. Let Assad run his hot air.. Provoking America or the world though at this point is not the most intelligent thing to do, especially with a nut as POTUS..

I can understand the American people and US military strikes against a sovereign country is classed as and act of war.

Kerry states it's not a war America is starting however it's an act of war to strike a sovereign country, without proving evidence which everyone is asking for.


I can understand on the other hand that if the President of Syria is really assuring that he did not order chemical strikes the the US administration should be smart enough to put President Assad to shame and prove.

Proof is a key word in this.

If Syria has nothing to hide then they would turn there chemical weapons over to the international community.
It then avoids the imposed US strikes.

The decision comes down to congress.

I'll ask the question if Russia has the supply of Chemicals Weapons would they turn them over to the international community.

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I thought so more like a big war would be on the way.

Congress has the key decision but mark my word the UN will condem US intervention and if the green light is signalled without UN approval for intervention.

Your president and his superiors will face the International Courts for War Crimes along with the rest of them.

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At this point the waters have been mudded sufficient enough that, like the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, the real perpetrators will never be found.

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Your president and his superiors will face the International Courts for War Crimes along with the rest of them.

And who exactly, is going to come into the United States, and arrest them for their crimes against humanity?

That's right. No one. They can have all the trials they want, and nothing will come of it, except a little media splash.

well the Assad family are members of Hezbollah so I'd take his threat seriously, Hezbollah is the largest and most capable Islamic militant group there is and if we attack it will lead to war with not just Syria but with Hezbollah, Lebanon and possibly Iran.

well i was mistaken, but they still support Assad and the Syrian government so my point still stands.

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Well there is two ways the UN would use diplomatic routes

failing that bilateral force with international intervention.

If the President was told to face the UN Courts then would a interim or a military control of the US be put in his place before a new President is sworn in ?

Originally posted by wrabbit2000

Originally posted by FlyersFan
No doubt that if Obama has Congress vote to help Al Qaeda and The Muslim Brotherhood on September 11th this week (darkly ironic, isn't it?) ... that we can expect everything and anything to happen. Powers all around the world will use Obama's Syria attack as an excuse for their own nefarious actions.

Don't ask me why Flyers...but it hadn't hit me until last night on that point.

This man, our President, actually has this nation voting on war where Al Qaeda is, AT BEST, simply among the allies we're supporting 100%.....ON SEPTEMBER 11.

Last year? His incompetence and lack of leadership cost us an Ambassador, a US Dipo compound and credibility it'll take a generation to rebuild, if we ever do in my lifetime. THIS year? Did someone wonder how he could top that one? My god..... He managed, didn't he? I wouldn't have thought it possible....but this vote, on THAT day? That tops last year.

....and I've been pissed ever since that hit me for the timing. He's spitting in our face and kicking us in the balls ...while smirking like a fool. I'm just sick with my nation this week. TOTALLY sick with it. Not OF it. WITH it.

I was never one to believe the whole "they do things on certain days" conspiracy, but thats a kick in the pants if I ever heard one, a Psy-op at the least.

Remind us what can happen... Bull #, they launch this attack on Syria, every American thats against it needs to just drop everything and start driving to DC.

They will get the message.

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Benryl.....If there is a major move toward D.C.? Well.... I'll put it this way. Drop me a note and I'll buy you some coffee at a great little spot I know just outside the District and across the Virginia line. I'll damn sure be there with bells on.

There is nothing, outside breaking laws, that I won't do right now to throw what miniscule little influence I can muster AGAINST everything about this war and our participation in it. I won't see my son standng a friggin post, with a rifle, in Syria in 5 years without knowing I did EVERYTHING, short of robbing him of having a Father in his life, to see that it does NOT happen.

We just need someone better than us to start the move...and I think the flow to follow this time? It'll make Occupy look like a picnic with school kids.

Yeah well .. Saddam promised "The American invaders will drown in their own blood"

And we all know how that went down.

Lesson learned: Always take dictator threats with a grain of salt.

Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
Yeah well .. Saddam promised "The American invaders will drown in their own blood"

And we all know how that went down.

Lesson learned: Always take dictator threats with a grain of salt.

4,486 American Soldiers have died fighting in Iraq, and more than 50,000 have been injured or lost limbs in Iraq.

It may not be drowning in our own blood, but its Far too many American lives lost over A LIE.

NEVER AGAIN.

Shouldn't have gone into Iraq, and Damn sure shouldn't go into Syria.

4,486 for a lie, is 4,486 too much.

Originally posted by HumanPLC
I have just watched parts of the live interview with Assad, when pushed on what retaliatory action would be taken if the US were to attack he replied "Expect everything".

He was further pushed regarding if this meant the use of chemical weapons but again replied expect everything.

Another comment that he made was "You are going to pay the price if you are not wise in dealing with the terrorists... No one expected September 11."

I found this quite intriguing... Ive seen on other threads that there has been talk of a false flag attack coming soon and part of me thinks that this could be laying the ground for any attack.

www.cbsnews.com...

Part transcript showing comments re 9/11

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Edit to add.. Im just trying to find a video of the full interview, as soon as i find i will post.

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I think you need to listen again to both of those media bites. I heard the same two excerpts. I heard Assad say that owing to the factions, the terrorists that are in his country you CAN expect anything aka HE has no control over them and what they do. He even says the US were warned about involving themselves with terrorists as you cannot rely on them they could do anything'. HE didn't say HE was going to do 'anything' at all. He said to EXPECT anything as no one has a crystal ball to predict what those terrorists will do next or if the Us bombs Syria. See how media spin works? The carefully chosen headline told you what to think and you thought it !

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I'd take Assad at his word.

I watched the original interview with Assad and I think this statement has been taken out of context a lot. My impression about his statement "Expect Everything" has been intentional misrepresented.

The impression I got, which Assad somewhat explained, was that such a provocative action on the part of US could provoke non-governmental groups to retaliate out of spite. I did not take this as a threat by Assad, just a statement of the possible realities and consequences of a US strike.

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I thought I would drop in with a factoid here, since this hits so many of us very close and personal for the losses and human wreckage caused in that place.

4,488 Killed in total (2 more since your last count at souce.. )

4,347 Killed since "Mission Accomplished" (05/01/03) with 3,627 killed since the official "handoff" to Iraq forces and when we were all lied to by the statements that Iraq would relieve our people from the burdens and losses of running point in the war. Almost like Kerry says today...Syria will just be a little strike at his capabilities and "unbelievably limited" to use his precise words overseas, earlier.

32,021 are the official wounded numbers. 100,000 United States men and women in uniform are the estimated numbers to include what the VA is still fighting people over admitting, what hasn't been diagnosed yet or hasn't been run to the VA for stats yet..and those that always fall off to make a % look better among those who write the reports.

Indeed.... Considering body armor like a storm trooper is ALL that kept the loss numbers that low, as it is? I'd say Saddam fulfilled his threats well enough for anyone to say we don't do this again unless we have NO choice of any kind. I.E....direct national threat requiring direct national defense.

Source of stats

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Many people wish they would apply the same amount of energy in getting rid of the fed and the usurer bankers, and take back America.

That's what all this middle eastern warmongering is about, stomping down hard on countries that have rejected the fraud and usury of central banking via Bretton Woods and the petro dollar.

Sooner or later, the everything we should be expecting will include the BRICS nations which includes Russia and China. No one knows what to expect better than BRICS, as well as all those that would like to escape the failed reserve currency and be added to that developing banking system. So yeah, it would probably be wise for the rest of us to expect everything, as well, because power doesn't relinquish power without a fight and they don't care who gets crushed by the wheels of their chariots.

I've gotta say, its getting very hard to understand why anybody would come down on the side of the usurers in the coming battle.

Wrabbit2000
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I thought I would drop in with a factoid here, since this hits so many of us very close and personal for the losses and human wreckage caused in that place.

4,488 Killed in total (2 more since your last count at souce..

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4,347 Killed since "Mission Accomplished" (05/01/03) with 3,627 killed since the official "handoff" to Iraq forces and when we were all lied to by the statements that Iraq would relieve our people from the burdens and losses of running point in the war. Almost like Kerry says today...Syria will just be a little strike at his capabilities and "unbelievably limited" to use his precise words overseas, earlier.

32,021 are the official wounded numbers. 100,000 United States men and women in uniform are the estimated numbers to include what the VA is still fighting people over admitting, what hasn't been diagnosed yet or hasn't been run to the VA for stats yet..and those that always fall off to make a % look better among those who write the reports.

Indeed.... Considering body armor like a storm trooper is ALL that kept the loss numbers that low, as it is? I'd say Saddam fulfilled his threats well enough for anyone to say we don't do this again unless we have NO choice of any kind. I.E....direct national threat requiring direct national defense.

Source of stats

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People who toss these statistics around only to prop up their position are asking to be shown how futile their attempt is.
4488 over 10 years is not even enough to make the charts of death for US citizens.
Source

2.4 million deaths in the year 2010 alone, not including deaths from old age.

Cause of death (Data from 2010 unless otherwise noted) Number All Causes 2,468,435 Major Cardiovascular [Heart] Diseases 780,213 Malignant Neoplasms [Cancer] 574,743 Chronic Lower Respiratory Diseases 138,080 Accidents (Unintentional Injuries) [Total] 120,859 Motor Vehicle Accidents [subset of Total Accidents] 35,332 Diabetes 69,071 Drug-Induced Deaths1 40,393 Intentional Self-Harm (Suicide) 38,364 Septicemia 34,812 Chronic Liver Disease and Cirrhosis 31,903 Firearm Injuries 31,672 Alcohol-Induced Deaths 25,692 Homicide 16,259 Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) 8,369 Viral hepatitis 7,564 All Illicit Drugs Combined (2000)2 17,0002 - See more at: www.drugwarfacts.org...

Anyone in the military goes in knowing full well they may be called upon to risk their lives for country.

It is a testament to the discipline in conducting itself that only 4488 soldiers have died over 10 years in Iraq. It is an outstanding and unprecedented accomplishment. One that you tarnish with fake tears and admiration poured onto the likes of Saddam for making what you consider "rivers of blood" flow.
If those soldiers stayed home it is more likely they would have ended up a statistic in the 20 to 25 million who died in country over the same 10 year period from unhealthy living. You yourself were more at risk of dieing during the same time period by sitting in your chair jacking up your blood pressure criticizing those who served, and it is easy to find stats to prop that position up.

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I'm going to say this as nicely as I can put it because you literally could not have pissed me off more with what you just said. Not if it had been your express intent and WHOLE purpose...which I know it wasn't, so excuse the tone if I'm not covering my rage well enough.

People who toss these statistics around only to prop up their position are asking to be shown how futile their attempt is.

I do not just throw stats around to prop up my position. If it seems that way because I pulled those off a peace activist site with an agenda about 10 miles wide, then so be it. That isn't my problem because I know the numbers, as others do here, well enough to know those are CLOSE within a % or so, if they are off at all, from what I have read in Department of Defense reports and extracts from casualty lists.

4488 over 10 years is not even enough to make the charts of death for US citizens.

THAT is one of the coldest, most HATEFUL things I've ever seen someone say on this site... I'd never have expected you to have that low a consideration for life, American or otherwise. My brother in law served as a combat medic in both Afghanistan and Iraq and will be screwed up for this rest of his natural life for what "doesn't matter' to some people. A GOOD PART OF WHY was treating a few of those 4,488 dead men before they CAME to be dead. It's PERSONAL to some people and HOW DARE anyone make light of the deaths of servicemen. That's totally uncalled for on ANY topic, IN my HUMBLE opinion.

Anyone in the military goes in knowing full well they may be called upon to risk their lives for country.

Yes they do. My family members, including my BIL were no exception and he was twice volunteer. One of my cousins flying crew on the little cargo hops between forward bases was 3 times volunteer to get there. What they DO NOT "know full well" or expect is for their lives and loss to be pissed away in some hell hole for no good reason or need in national defense on ANY LEVEL. Thats called betrayal. That's called a nation that craps on them, as they give all.

It is a testament to the discipline in conducting itself that only 4488 soldiers have died over 10 years in Iraq. It is an outstanding and unprecedented accomplishment.

It's a testament to Body armor and the miraculous fact that a man down on a Baghdad street could expect high grade medical attention within a minute or two and to be in an aid center in as little as 5-10, depending on location. The casualty rates on injury dropped from World War II to Vietnam and Vietnam to this one because tech to stop bullets gets better and tech to patch the holes they make gets better.

If you believe SKILL had anything to do with a record low loss rate? Kindly explain ..Please... the level of loss to OCCUPIED coalition vehicles to IED? Often with several people IN them and far from 100% loss? In previous wars...it may well have been ALL lost to every vehicle we had destroyed. THAT is the difference. Not some Superman change in troop skill.

If those soldiers stayed home it is more likely they would have ended up a statistic in the 20 to 25 million who died in country over the same 10 year period from unhealthy living.

I'd give everything I have and more to see my BIL never knowing what combat was like. I'd give a lot to not have heard him talk, describe and weep his way through how he killed a Haji in the battle of Haifa Street, damn near nose to nose with a knife. I think he sees that man in his sleep, likely on a regular basis...and that was as clean and justified a kill anyone ever gets in combat........for what it matters to a man who did it and has to live it it...late at night...when they come to visit.

You yourself were more at risk of dieing during the same time period by sitting in your chair jacking up your blood pressure criticizing those who served, and it is easy to find stats to prop that position up.

Check yourself. Right now, please. I have not now, nor have I ***EVER*** crticized those who have served this nation. Not ONCE. EVER. PERIOD. FULL STOP.

I have had issues with INDIVIDUALS. I Have NEVER dumped on Servicemen or those who have served this nation, as a whole or in any generalized way. Despite the hate-fest around here at times, I don't even extend that blanket hate-show to the Intelligence agencies...as they have normal people working there just like the Military has normal men serving.

Please.. before you just go lumping people together, think and read...consider who you're replying to, so you make sure what you're saying fits the PERSON you are replying to..not just a whole group you THINK they represent. In this case, you couldn't possibly have missed by more.

*See first lines on top....they were sincere and they are honest. 100%.

With regard to Assad telling people to "expect everything". I think he and all other world leaders should discard this sort of rhetoric entirely.

By saying "expect everything" he hands his enemies carte blanche to plan a false flag attack of literally any sort at all and then to quote him before they launch their retaliation.

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You forget to mention how much iraqi's died because of a lie and how many had to flee their own country during this war.

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Let's examine the chronological order of what you were referencing to,

First H1ght3chHippie stated,

Yeah well .. Saddam promised "The American invaders will drown in their own blood"

Then benrl responded with,

It may not be drowning in our own blood, but its Far too many American lives lost over A LIE.

Where you responded to user benrl with this,

I'd say Saddam fulfilled his threats well enough

You can get off your high horse any time now.

Let me ask a several questions.(For ALL sides of the arguement)

- Why hasnt Assad Brought anyone to justice for using chemical weapons if it wasnt Assad that used them?

-- If Assad used the weapons- why hasnt there been any efforts by those in his own govt to hold him accountable?

If Assad used Chemical agents against his own people- where is the Arab League?

Where is the international community if it can be proved either side used these weapons?

How can we make a determination of intervening if facts are not addressed?

(I didnt watch Obamas arguements today)-If he has any facts that change the situation regarding factual evidence, would someone please establish that evidence)?