Can you help but do evil? I do not see how. Do you?

Thanks for this.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am
My main point is to try to get people thinking of how evolution and our need to compete screws up both God and those who think we always can choose to do good. Do you see it?

You would have to define your idea of 'god', (personally I dont think that being exists (other than its expressions of itself); mammal, animal, mineral, flora, fauna. Needing to compete is not relegated to the human mammal..it spans all specie; survival of the fittest. Evolution is the natural generator or by product of the success of such specie. If one were to inject an actual 'overlord' that proclaimed itself into that mix the blame game (finger pointing) begins. We exist, who created us, whos responsible for this mess etc. The choosing to 'do good' is entirely an individual decision, just as is allowed the 'choosing to do bad' is equally allowed. You just have to have the determination to know self rightously what you are doing is OF PURE INTENT and understand its ultimate consequences. Everything is allowed, you just dont know it.

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"Everything is allowed, you just dont know it." Quote VHB

Ain't that the truth Ruth!...As expression of God, I reserve the right to royally screw up as much as I like, kind of counter-intuitive...but some artists like to ruin thier own creations...which is thier right to do...and I also give myself the permission to forgive myself for ruining my own creations...

Had to edit this...little bit bad analogy...DNA/image/children...probably a better analogy...why would I blame them for evil acts after bringing them into existence in the first place? (probly not much better...I'm having a 'taxing' day)

Å99

akushla99

Greatest I am
My main point is to try to get people thinking of how evolution and our need to compete screws up both God and those who think we always can choose to do good.

Do you see it?

Regards
DL

Problem is...good, eeevil would need to be qualified within a framework that accounts for 'evolution', God and whatever other contingency you could choose (or not) to include...which is the nose on our faces, that we choose not to see (means looking at yourself in a mirror!)...religious doctrine (mainly the larger ones) externalises this process and turns it into a cartoon pastiche that is dissected waaay too seriously...especially when 2000+ years of 'expert' commentary has introduced the means to debate most insignificant details that can be yapped at till the cows come home...in the game of backgammon, there are rules...the dice introduce ways in which those rules can be followed, or applied (according to natural moves)...a well-thought-out strategy can be foiled by the throw of a dice...is this the result of that dice throw, or the one you made 20 throws back? Å99

There is no flexablity in some of these written Epistles (doctrines); 3000, 1400 years later--why the ridgidity, because of the way they were implemented, you accepted the doctrine through faith determined (threatened), family history and did not waiver. The Talmud/Torah, the Q'uran were written as immoveable beasts. Other doctrines, Buddhist are left to the faith holder to take it and make it work for them individually. I cannot speak of the Christian New Testament as I use it as an Oracle only. What if all rules of dice throwing were changed and you did not have current rules of play? What if your poker game card deck held no face cards, only jokers? This is my world, problem being I have a sense a humor and would change the game, Jokers all wild.

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Or...everyone's holding only UNO wildcards, reversing ad nauseum on themselves...servo-mechanisms use both (uninfused with divinity, except by proxy)...I'd ask questions too...

...and some units are 'into' discipline...I have no explanation for it...

Å99

akushla99
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"Everything is allowed, you just dont know it." Quote VHB

Ain't that the truth Ruth!...As expression of God, I reserve the right to royally screw up as much as I like, kind of counter-intuitive...but some artists like to ruin their own creations...which is thier right to do...and I also give myself the permission to forgive myself for ruining my own creations...
Had to edit this...little bit bad analogy...DNA/image/children...probably a better analogy...why would I blame them for evil acts after bringing them into existence in the first place? (probly not much better...I'm having a 'taxing' day)

I cant tell you how many times Ive painted in daylight and turned on the "full spectrum lights" at night painted even more (creativity sometimes leaves time aside did I realize it was 1 AM) Next morning Im looking at carnival colors--then waste no time correcting the color begins and its full on another 12 hours of strange ecstacy fear and loathing until its right. Somehow the imperfections add as a mispoken improvement, layers of struggled intent (perfection in frailness). Its funny you bring up DNA, I removed an entire paragraph to "Regards DL" because I didnt think it would understand the implications of MEMORY forced upon us by our ANCESTORS. Cellular memory holds all memory of our forebearers, and we are its vessel. Your children may have memory of your past deeds. Why not, I have linkage to my parents emotional lives they would not dream I knew; and I was not alive then. Perhaps the intuitive person gets its "EMPATH" status from decoding/understanding its DNA parental ancestral beginnings.

akushla99
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Or...everyone's holding only UNO wildcards, reversing ad nauseum on themselves...servo-mechanisms use both (uninfused with divinity, except by proxy)...I'd ask questions too......and some units are 'into' discipline...I have no explanation for it...Å99

Im thinking the scrabble tile/chicklets have been shorted, some are being hidden in someones pockets; (Security hasnt been alerted) the game cant be played (reasonably) without all alphabetic characters. There is no reasoning regarding the hijinks that seem to confound most. The NEW servo-mechanisms seem to exist to warp, twist or push to the death all architypes known to human history and perhaps create new ones. How would I know; I am a progenitor.

vethumanbeing

Greatest I am
My main point is to try to get people thinking of how evolution and our need to compete screws up both God and those who think we always can choose to do good. Do you see it?

You would have to define your idea of 'god', (personally I dont think that being exists (other than its expressions of itself); mammal, animal, mineral, flora, fauna. Needing to compete is not relegated to the human mammal..it spans all specie; survival of the fittest. Evolution is the natural generator or by product of the success of such specie. If one were to inject an actual 'overlord' that proclaimed itself into that mix the blame game (finger pointing) begins. We exist, who created us, whos responsible for this mess etc. The choosing to 'do good' is entirely an individual decision, just as is allowed the 'choosing to do bad' is equally allowed. You just have to have the determination to know self rightously what you are doing is OF PURE INTENT and understand its ultimate consequences. Everything is allowed, you just dont know it.

The Godhead I know is a non-interfering cosmic consciousness who basically ignores us until found. I have no proof of my apotheosis but that belief has nothing to do with my view of evolution.

I don't understand your last.

Where I live, everything is definitely not allowed.

The last time you competed for resources or a job and won, you created losers of those you beat out. They would have seen their loss as evil because if you happen to live where there are no safety nets, the loser might die.

Can you go through life without doing evil from the losers POV when you compete?

Regards
DL

vethumanbeing

akushla99
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Or...everyone's holding only UNO wildcards, reversing ad nauseum on themselves...servo-mechanisms use both (uninfused with divinity, except by proxy)...I'd ask questions too......and some units are 'into' discipline...I have no explanation for it...Å99

Im thinking the scrabble tile/chicklets have been shorted, some are being hidden in someones pockets; (Security hasnt been alerted) the game cant be played (reasonably) without all alphabetic characters. There is no reasoning regarding the hijinks that seem to confound most. The NEW servo-mechanisms seem to exist to warp, twist or push to the death all architypes known to human history and perhaps create new ones. How would I know; I am a progenitor.

Maybe (just an idea, since it involves an incarnate concept of time) progenitor status, eschewing this sector, abides at an elsewhere...And rejoins the game here with better perspective

Casino mahjong benders could probably make you feel like life was a series of tile dispensations...scrabble, more problematic...letters make words...words - sentences, sentences - paragraphs, paragraphs - little golden books...you can't reverse out of that without making concessions...especially to your ante strategy...

The NEW ones are well equipped with 'new & improved' modules...they're just having fun pushing the edges of the envelope...approaching the karma singularity at full speed, testing the waters, cranking it up to 11...just for the heck of it...sometimes crashing, sometimes lifting Fly-like to another 'table'...sometimes you don't need the DeLorean...but cause & effect get addled, and you knoe what I mean...

You can 'help' do evil, but, that 'help' relies on being on-table...chip-hiding, table 50...damned incarnation!

Å99

Greatest I am

vethumanbeing

Greatest I am
My main point is to try to get people thinking of how evolution and our need to compete screws up both God and those who think we always can choose to do good. Do you see it?

You would have to define your idea of 'god', (personally I dont think that being exists (other than its expressions of itself); mammal, animal, mineral, flora, fauna. Needing to compete is not relegated to the human mammal..it spans all specie; survival of the fittest. Evolution is the natural generator or by product of the success of such specie. If one were to inject an actual 'overlord' that proclaimed itself into that mix the blame game (finger pointing) begins. We exist, who created us, whos responsible for this mess etc. The choosing to 'do good' is entirely an individual decision, just as is allowed the 'choosing to do bad' is equally allowed. You just have to have the determination to know self rightously what you are doing is OF PURE INTENT and understand its ultimate consequences. Everything is allowed, you just dont know it.

The Godhead I know is a non-interfering cosmic consciousness who basically ignores us until found. I have no proof of my apotheosis but that belief has nothing to do with my view of evolution.

I don't understand your last.

Where I live, everything is definitely not allowed.

The last time you competed for resources or a job and won, you created losers of those you beat out. They would have seen their loss as evil because if you happen to live where there are no safety nets, the loser might die.

Can you go through life without doing evil from the losers POV when you compete?

Regards
DL

Apologies...that's a more interesting question...

POV is king...and assuming the same divinity (if you do), that person you describe is you at another juncture...you can only be as kind as you can be, because solid objects (containing drivers) will collide...that can't be helped...it is the result of you and many others (trying not to do evil)...in achieving 'one-mind', there will be no need to bifurcate and experience things schizophrenically (love to all the schizophrenics)...that's where we find ourselves...on a battle field, in warfare...against ourselves...

Love one another, as you would be loved.

Å99

akushla99
vethumanbeing
akushla99
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veteranhumanbeing
Im thinking the scrabble tile/chicklets have been shorted, some are being hidden in someones pockets; (Security hasnt been alerted) the game cant be played (reasonably) without all alphabetic characters. There is no reasoning regarding the hijinks that seem to confound most. The NEW servo-mechanisms seem to exist to warp, twist or push to the death all architypes known to human history and perhaps create new ones. How would I know; I am a progenitor.

akushla99
Maybe (just an idea, since it involves an incarnate concept of time) progenitor status, eschewing this sector, abides at an elsewhere...And rejoins the game here with better perspective

Casino mahjong benders could probably make you feel like life was a series of tile dispensations...scrabble, more problematic...letters make words...words - sentences, sentences - paragraphs, paragraphs - little golden books...you can't reverse out of that without making concessions...especially to your ante strategy...

I am always "IN", as whatevers presents itself I will con/enjoin with irreverance and a fearless 'take you outness count-nance Badness person hiding in my crib, tryign to hurt me dog?"

akushla99
The NEW ones are well equipped with 'new & improved' modules...they're just having fun pushing the edges of the envelope...approaching the karma singularity at full speed, testing the waters, cranking it up to 11...just for the heck of it...sometimes crashing, sometimes lifting Fly-like to another 'table'...sometimes you don't need the DeLorean...but cause & effect get addled, and you knoe what I mean...
You can 'help' do evil, but, that 'help' relies on being on-table...chip-hiding, table 50...damned incarnation!

The (our prodgeny children) are much better equiped to deal with the higher frequencies they were born into. This planet is raising itself and species upon it are either raising to the task or dieing. You are as I am changing our frequency form to address this. We are becoming lighter in gross mass, for some its becoming Vegan for others its entirely medical (stop the allopathic pharma meds poisening for profit). There is no wrong in forced driving of say an Alfa Romero Milano 5 speed against a Nisson Maxima? What is the point? the ENGINEERING of the vehicle and its performance. Who is the driver? Who can say the human is performing at its optimum ? NO ONE. WHY WOULD IT? Its pit crew is on a time schedule (SECONDS FOR TIRE CHANGES)=infinate nothing/everything breaks apart as far as life cycle is concerned because of CHAOS, FRACTALS, STASIS, ENTROPY. I have come to the conclusion the only glue for this 'sad sack thinking' is the force energy of love positive" "THINKING OF YOU IN YOUR ULTIMATE MISERY" a musical $4.99 Robert Hall Hallmark greeting card. Should I buy stock in this company?

akushla99

Greatest I am

vethumanbeing

Greatest I am
My main point is to try to get people thinking of how evolution and our need to compete screws up both God and those who think we always can choose to do good. Do you see it?

You would have to define your idea of 'god', (personally I dont think that being exists (other than its expressions of itself); mammal, animal, mineral, flora, fauna. Needing to compete is not relegated to the human mammal..it spans all specie; survival of the fittest. Evolution is the natural generator or by product of the success of such specie. If one were to inject an actual 'overlord' that proclaimed itself into that mix the blame game (finger pointing) begins. We exist, who created us, whos responsible for this mess etc. The choosing to 'do good' is entirely an individual decision, just as is allowed the 'choosing to do bad' is equally allowed. You just have to have the determination to know self rightously what you are doing is OF PURE INTENT and understand its ultimate consequences. Everything is allowed, you just dont know it.

The Godhead I know is a non-interfering cosmic consciousness who basically ignores us until found. I have no proof of my apotheosis but that belief has nothing to do with my view of evolution.

I don't understand your last.

Where I live, everything is definitely not allowed.

The last time you competed for resources or a job and won, you created losers of those you beat out. They would have seen their loss as evil because if you happen to live where there are no safety nets, the loser might die.

Can you go through life without doing evil from the losers POV when you compete?

Regards
DL

Apologies...that's a more interesting question...

POV is king...and assuming the same divinity (if you do), that person you describe is you at another juncture...you can only be as kind as you can be, because solid objects (containing drivers) will collide...that can't be helped...it is the result of you and many others (trying not to do evil)...in achieving 'one-mind', there will be no need to bifurcate and experience things schizophrenically (love to all the schizophrenics)...that's where we find ourselves...on a battle field, in warfare...against ourselves...

Love one another, as you would be loved.

Å99

edit on 10-10-2013 by akushla99 because: (no reason given)

I follow your thinking but that last is unworkable rhetoric and a wish list that as shown by your preceding words cannot be fulfilled.

www.youtube.com...

Regards
DL

Greatest I am

akushla99

Greatest I am

vethumanbeing

Greatest I am
My main point is to try to get people thinking of how evolution and our need to compete screws up both God and those who think we always can choose to do good. Do you see it?

You would have to define your idea of 'god', (personally I dont think that being exists (other than its expressions of itself); mammal, animal, mineral, flora, fauna. Needing to compete is not relegated to the human mammal..it spans all specie; survival of the fittest. Evolution is the natural generator or by product of the success of such specie. If one were to inject an actual 'overlord' that proclaimed itself into that mix the blame game (finger pointing) begins. We exist, who created us, whos responsible for this mess etc. The choosing to 'do good' is entirely an individual decision, just as is allowed the 'choosing to do bad' is equally allowed. You just have to have the determination to know self rightously what you are doing is OF PURE INTENT and understand its ultimate consequences. Everything is allowed, you just dont know it.

The Godhead I know is a non-interfering cosmic consciousness who basically ignores us until found. I have no proof of my apotheosis but that belief has nothing to do with my view of evolution.

I don't understand your last.

Where I live, everything is definitely not allowed.

The last time you competed for resources or a job and won, you created losers of those you beat out. They would have seen their loss as evil because if you happen to live where there are no safety nets, the loser might die.

Can you go through life without doing evil from the losers POV when you compete?

Regards
DL

Apologies...that's a more interesting question...

POV is king...and assuming the same divinity (if you do), that person you describe is you at another juncture...you can only be as kind as you can be, because solid objects (containing drivers) will collide...that can't be helped...it is the result of you and many others (trying not to do evil)...in achieving 'one-mind', there will be no need to bifurcate and experience things schizophrenically (love to all the schizophrenics)...that's where we find ourselves...on a battle field, in warfare...against ourselves...

Love one another, as you would be loved.

Å99

edit on 10-10-2013 by akushla99 because: (no reason given)

I follow your thinking but that last is unworkable rhetoric and a wish list that as shown by your preceding words cannot be fulfilled.

www.youtube.com...

Regards
DL

Love others as you would love yourself.
Do to others as you would have done to you.

Try putting yourself in someone elses shoes...
Try to empathise...

This is 'unworkable rhetoric' for you?

So...you are recluse, who lives on thier own, has no meaningful contact with human (except over interwebs)...it becomes 'unworkable' (or not) in the living of, and being a recluse, you would have no need for the quality of empathy...

...and for future reference, don't bother linking me to anything that has no explanation of what it is being linked to...I do not follow them.

Å99

akushla99

Greatest I am

akushla99

Greatest I am

vethumanbeing

Greatest I am
My main point is to try to get people thinking of how evolution and our need to compete screws up both God and those who think we always can choose to do good. Do you see it?

You would have to define your idea of 'god', (personally I dont think that being exists (other than its expressions of itself); mammal, animal, mineral, flora, fauna. Needing to compete is not relegated to the human mammal..it spans all specie; survival of the fittest. Evolution is the natural generator or by product of the success of such specie. If one were to inject an actual 'overlord' that proclaimed itself into that mix the blame game (finger pointing) begins. We exist, who created us, whos responsible for this mess etc. The choosing to 'do good' is entirely an individual decision, just as is allowed the 'choosing to do bad' is equally allowed. You just have to have the determination to know self rightously what you are doing is OF PURE INTENT and understand its ultimate consequences. Everything is allowed, you just dont know it.

The Godhead I know is a non-interfering cosmic consciousness who basically ignores us until found. I have no proof of my apotheosis but that belief has nothing to do with my view of evolution.

I don't understand your last.

Where I live, everything is definitely not allowed.

The last time you competed for resources or a job and won, you created losers of those you beat out. They would have seen their loss as evil because if you happen to live where there are no safety nets, the loser might die.

Can you go through life without doing evil from the losers POV when you compete?

Regards
DL

Apologies...that's a more interesting question...

POV is king...and assuming the same divinity (if you do), that person you describe is you at another juncture...you can only be as kind as you can be, because solid objects (containing drivers) will collide...that can't be helped...it is the result of you and many others (trying not to do evil)...in achieving 'one-mind', there will be no need to bifurcate and experience things schizophrenically (love to all the schizophrenics)...that's where we find ourselves...on a battle field, in warfare...against ourselves...

Love one another, as you would be loved.

Å99

edit on 10-10-2013 by akushla99 because: (no reason given)

I follow your thinking but that last is unworkable rhetoric and a wish list that as shown by your preceding words cannot be fulfilled.

www.youtube.com...

Regards
DL

Love others as you would love yourself.
Do to others as you would have done to you.

Try putting yourself in someone elses shoes...
Try to empathise...

This is 'unworkable rhetoric' for you?

So...you are recluse, who lives on thier own, has no meaningful contact with human (except over interwebs)...it becomes 'unworkable' (or not) in the living of, and being a recluse, you would have no need for the quality of empathy...

...and for future reference, don't bother linking me to anything that has no explanation of what it is being linked to...I do not follow them.

Å99

Empathy is nice for you to do as you create a victim to your competition. Nice to feel his pain from your evil but it does not prevent you from winning at that competition.

That is the point and the catch 22 we are all in.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am

akushla99

Greatest I am

akushla99

Greatest I am

vethumanbeing

Greatest I am
My main point is to try to get people thinking of how evolution and our need to compete screws up both God and those who think we always can choose to do good. Do you see it?

You would have to define your idea of 'god', (personally I dont think that being exists (other than its expressions of itself); mammal, animal, mineral, flora, fauna. Needing to compete is not relegated to the human mammal..it spans all specie; survival of the fittest. Evolution is the natural generator or by product of the success of such specie. If one were to inject an actual 'overlord' that proclaimed itself into that mix the blame game (finger pointing) begins. We exist, who created us, whos responsible for this mess etc. The choosing to 'do good' is entirely an individual decision, just as is allowed the 'choosing to do bad' is equally allowed. You just have to have the determination to know self rightously what you are doing is OF PURE INTENT and understand its ultimate consequences. Everything is allowed, you just dont know it.

The Godhead I know is a non-interfering cosmic consciousness who basically ignores us until found. I have no proof of my apotheosis but that belief has nothing to do with my view of evolution.

I don't understand your last.

Where I live, everything is definitely not allowed.

The last time you competed for resources or a job and won, you created losers of those you beat out. They would have seen their loss as evil because if you happen to live where there are no safety nets, the loser might die.

Can you go through life without doing evil from the losers POV when you compete?

Regards
DL

Apologies...that's a more interesting question...

POV is king...and assuming the same divinity (if you do), that person you describe is you at another juncture...you can only be as kind as you can be, because solid objects (containing drivers) will collide...that can't be helped...it is the result of you and many others (trying not to do evil)...in achieving 'one-mind', there will be no need to bifurcate and experience things schizophrenically (love to all the schizophrenics)...that's where we find ourselves...on a battle field, in warfare...against ourselves...

Love one another, as you would be loved.

Å99

edit on 10-10-2013 by akushla99 because: (no reason given)

I follow your thinking but that last is unworkable rhetoric and a wish list that as shown by your preceding words cannot be fulfilled.

www.youtube.com...

Regards
DL

Love others as you would love yourself.
Do to others as you would have done to you.

Try putting yourself in someone elses shoes...
Try to empathise...

This is 'unworkable rhetoric' for you?

So...you are recluse, who lives on thier own, has no meaningful contact with human (except over interwebs)...it becomes 'unworkable' (or not) in the living of, and being a recluse, you would have no need for the quality of empathy...

...and for future reference, don't bother linking me to anything that has no explanation of what it is being linked to...I do not follow them.

Å99

Empathy is nice for you to do as you create a victim to your competition. Nice to feel his pain from your evil but it does not prevent you from winning at that competition.

That is the point and the catch 22 we are all in.

Regards
DL

Empathy is not 'nice', and its not something you directly do...it's a feeling that you accept...The crap about 'create a victim from your competition' relegates what you seem to be saying, into a mario carts life and death match...only a 6 year old sensibility throws a tanty when they feel like they're losing a race...'it's sooo NOT fair' and that's a matter of perspective...when you see yourself working on a TEAM, there are no individuals (or shouldn't be) and couching your argument in terms of a competition is lending the implication that you are separate from everyone...I myself, do not have a superiority complex...

Boil the sweetie down, and the issue is what you think sin IS...and, using the rationale I understand you are positing, everything can/and is a SIN and therefore eeevil...paint yourself into that corner, and you ARE in a catch22 (that you painted yourself into!) circular...catch22...

You are right...YOU are in a catch22!

Å99

Greatest I am
akushla99
Greatest I am
akushla99
Greatest I am
vethumanbeing
Greatest I am

veteranhumanbeing
You would have to define your idea of 'god', (personally I dont think that being exists (other than its expressions of itself); mammal, animal, mineral, flora, fauna. Needing to compete is not relegated to the human mammal..it spans all specie; survival of the fittest. Evolution is the natural generator or by product of the success of such specie. If one were to inject an actual 'overlord' that proclaimed itself into that mix the blame game (finger pointing) begins. We exist, who created us, whos responsible for this mess etc. The choosing to 'do good' is entirely an individual decision, just as is allowed the 'choosing to do bad' is equally allowed. You just have to have the determination to know self rightously what you are doing is OF PURE INTENT and understand its ultimate consequences. Everything is allowed, you just dont know it.

Greatest I Am
The Godhead I know is a non-interfering cosmic consciousness who basically ignores us until found. I have no proof of my apotheosis but that belief has nothing to do with my view of evolution.I don't understand your last. Where I live, everything is definitely not allowed. The last time you competed for resources or a job and won, you created losers of those you beat out. They would have seen their loss as evil because if you happen to live where there are no safety nets, the loser might die. Can you go through life without doing evil from the losers POV when you compete?

You need to move (change stratospheres) because clearly your outlook has been changed or infected; manipulated by your toxic environment. No wonder you distrust and seem so hateful.

akushla99
Apologies...that's a more interesting question...
POV is king...and assuming the same divinity (if you do), that person you describe is you at another juncture...you can only be as kind as you can be, because solid objects (containing drivers) will collide...that can't be helped...it is the result of you and many others (trying not to do evil)...in achieving 'one-mind', there will be no need to bifurcate and experience things schizophrenically (love to all the schizophrenics)...that's where we find ourselves...on a battle field, in warfare...against ourselves...Love one another, as you would be loved.

We spend too much time BEING NICE and not ENOUGH time Really giving/sharing HEARTS MINDS and amunition to our nieghbors (not that Im going to arm them). I am thinking of the original movie "Crash" Rosanna Arquette, Dennis Hopper you know the story..metaphorically butting heads/maiming flaying ourselves in the seaching of our truth, a real history proclaimed by our genetic fabricators finally.

Greatest I Am
I follow your thinking but that last is unworkable rhetoric and a wish list that as shown by your preceding words cannot be fulfilled.

akushla99
Love others as you would love yourself.
Do to others as you would have done to you.
Try putting yourself in someone elses shoes...
Try to empathise...
This is 'unworkable rhetoric' for you?
So...you are recluse, who lives on thier own, has no meaningful contact with human (except over interwebs)...it becomes 'unworkable' (or not) in the living of, and being a recluse, you would have no need for the quality of empathy...
Å99

Its got to experience something worse than what its living now or imagine something greater. Its created its own catch 22 and seem to thrive in the chaos, unhappiness.

Greatest I Am
Empathy is nice for you to do as you create a victim to your competition. Nice to feel his pain from your evil but it does not prevent you from winning at that competition.
That is the point and the catch 22 we are all in.

No we are not ALL wearing your shoes (but are empathic). One does not create victims "winning" the compitition. One embraces as the victor (earned right) the other competitors. Id open a company with them and have them as my management team. Winning isnt evil, its just the cream rising out of the top of the ant hill. You dont want the lessor qualified or imbicile running the works do you? That goes against all rules of Darwinism. How does being naturally brighter (genetics freewill to self education) than someone else equate to evil? If its a competion and you felt this way, youd never have entered or competed (due diligence to for some reason uplift the 'fools' ratio; pie chart wedge enlarges). Physical Gods exist, you are one of its expressions. No one can save you but yourself; stop looking for an external savior.

akushla99
Greatest I am
akushla99
Greatest I am
akushla99
Greatest I am
vethumanbeing
Greatest I am

Greatest I am
Empathy is nice for you to do as you create a victim to your competition. Nice to feel his pain from your evil but it does not prevent you from winning at that competition.
That is the point and the catch 22 we are all in.Regards
DL

akushla99
Empathy is not 'nice', and its not something you directly do...it's a feeling that you accept...The crap about 'create a victim from your competition' relegates what you seem to be saying, into a mario carts life and death match...only a 6 year old sensibility throws a tanty when they feel like they're losing a race...'it's sooo NOT fair' and that's a matter of perspective...when you see yourself working on a TEAM, there are no individuals (or shouldn't be) and couching your argument in terms of a competition is lending the implication that you are separate from everyone...I myself, do not have a superiority complex...

Empathy is NOT A nice RIDE; you are spot on; empathy is a curse; its taking on all emotions of others surrounding you YOU CAN READ THEIR MINDS/EMOTIONS and some of us become reclusive because of it. Only the strength of will and determination will lead to an out of the trenches scenario into the front lines-- (regards DL) has no idea what this entails; a dividing/separation of oneself from selfish to be self serving to others. Not only does this require courage but fearlessness (as to psychic harm and disallowing it to occure).

akushla99
Boil the sweetie down, and the issue is what you think sin IS...and, using the rationale I understand you are positing, everything can/and is a SIN and therefore eeevil...paint yourself into that corner, and you ARE in a catch22 (that you painted yourself into!) circular...catch22...You are right...YOU are in a catch22! Å99

Regards DL has its own perspective, and its warped; from its point of view all things are of the shade BLACK. Everything has potenical for evil/sin and is LOOKING FOR IT EVERYWHERE. If one is of that mindset purposely, what to do? Give it a surprise party, mylar/latex balloons; tell it how much we appreciate him/her and support their quest in finding answers to very personal questions (I will be there, but with pins in my pocket).

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True VHB, empathy is not 'nice'...anyone I have ever encountered who was afflicted, never described it as 'nice'...so I am not alone in this assessment..., and one could only conclude from a description of empathy, as nice, that it is simply an intellectual placeholder (until 'we' understand more)...OP at least shows the modicum of inquiry (whether empathy is an issue or not) that would try to make sense of an apparent conundrum viewed waaay close...

Hah ha ha...pins in pockets, that's gold right there!
...but hopefully pins not needed, just available as plan B...besides I love the farting sound balloons make when they expelair slowly...Shout out to John Cooper Clarke...

Å99

akushla99
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akushla99
True VHB, empathy is not 'nice'...anyone I have ever encountered who was afflicted, never described it as 'nice'...so I am not alone in this assessment..., and one could only conclude from a description of empathy, as nice, that it is simply an intellectual placeholder (until 'we' understand more)...OP at least shows the modicum of inquiry (whether empathy is an issue or not) that would try to make sense of an apparent conundrum viewed waaay close...Hah ha ha...pins in pockets, that's gold right there!
...but hopefully pins not needed, just available as plan B...besides I love the farting sound balloons make when they expelair slowly...Shout out to John Cooper Clarke...

Who is this creature John c c.?
Empathy seems to be a reminder to ME that "YES YOUR HUMAN DEAL WITH IT", its your hijinks your plan that you manufactured before incarnating (you have to remember the PLAN IDIOT) I get it. Still, the proceedural manual (3 ring D binder) didnt come with the birth process, (cigarettes and empty beer bottles) so I have to as you do reinvent the 'wheel'. I have to understand my purpose before incarnating and then after incarnating execute my DIABOLICAL PLAN for changing the worlds perception of A GOD, A GOD ASPECT, YOU. Im not sure I put enough on my plate (any ideas for desert?)

vethumanbeing
akushla99
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akushla99
True VHB, empathy is not 'nice'...anyone I have ever encountered who was afflicted, never described it as 'nice'...so I am not alone in this assessment..., and one could only conclude from a description of empathy, as nice, that it is simply an intellectual placeholder (until 'we' understand more)...OP at least shows the modicum of inquiry (whether empathy is an issue or not) that would try to make sense of an apparent conundrum viewed waaay close...Hah ha ha...pins in pockets, that's gold right there!
...but hopefully pins not needed, just available as plan B...besides I love the farting sound balloons make when they expelair slowly...Shout out to John Cooper Clarke...

Who is this creature John c c.?
Empathy seems to be a reminder to ME that "YES YOUR HUMAN DEAL WITH IT", its your hijinks your plan that you manufactured before incarnating (you have to remember the PLAN IDIOT) I get it. Still, the proceedural manual (3 ring D binder) didnt come with the birth process, (cigarettes and empty beer bottles) so I have to as you do reinvent the 'wheel'. I have to understand my purpose before incarnating and then after incarnating execute my DIABOLICAL PLAN for changing the worlds perception of A GOD, A GOD ASPECT, YOU. Im not sure I put enough on my plate (any ideas for desert?)

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Ya, the birth process fairly mirrors the dimension entered...blood 'n guts, cursing and pressure...s'wat you get with materiality...eve burdened with the pain of childbirth (on a material plane)...of course it didn't have to be that way, but, wadaya do? It is what it is...and progress means doing it different, better, faster, so human has time to ponder the more zoomed-out aspects of that progress, the more 'philosophical' questions...keep to the plan VHB, I'm sure you have the aces up your shift sleeve...I have faith in human (although exasperated), if anything we are pliable beyond belief.

The OP is a fair question, but I have a friend who learnt classical piano into her late 30's. Her listening diet consists wholly of Rolling Stones, yet she has no capacity to improvise blues - despite knowing all scales and exercises back-to-front. She has no concept of free form, cannot relate to P.Glass, has narrowed her experience to hard and disciplined classical (which she is very, very proficient in)...this would seem a conundrum...she has all the 'tools' at her disposal, but can only use them in one fashion...where have I seen this before?

Å99