is syria the start of the gog magog war?

just my opinion?
does anyone else think it might be possible.

picture it as russia getting involved and its china & russia versus the U.S and allies with the middle east as the battlefeild.

it will be like east versus west; the middle east will spiral out of control and all out war will break out eventually between many nations. for example all of the nations against israel imagine being dragged into that as well as syria.

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Syria is strategically important because of the Mediterranean sea.

if you can control that area of the middle east then you control the oil routes to and from the middle east; at least to the western nations.

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If that's the case God is gonna rain fire and hailstones on the Muslim nations and the Russians while Israel remains unscathed. If that comes real how would the media explain such miraculous event?

The answer to your question is no. No nation will come to the defense of Israel when the Gog-Magog war starts. Not even the USA. Every nation will sit on the sidelines. Only God will defend Israel. The results of that "defense" will be catastrophic for Russia and her allies.

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The only way I could see that happening at this point and time is if Israel nuked someone. The entire world would be against them at that point.

Belcastro
just my opinion?
does anyone else think it might be possible.

picture it as russia getting involved and its china & russia versus the U.S and allies with the middle east as the battlefeild.

it will be like east versus west; the middle east will spiral out of control and all out war will break out eventually between many nations. for example all of the nations against israel imagine being dragged into that as well as syria.

Gog and Magog happen after the 1000 years of peace on Earth.

Revelation 20

The Judgment of Satan

7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

First, the Day of the Lord. This is 1000 years to come beyond the leaders of the Earth being judged. They will be removed and bound for 1000 years. After this, Satan is once again loosed on a Jubilee. When this happens, the final battle happens. Not until. The war you are aiming for now is Isaiah 17 and Psalms 83.

Nothing we can do will stop it. It leads to peace between Egypt, Israel and Syria. In Isaiah 19, you can read about a road of commerce that is opened between all three regions.

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We around iran or isreal? we really fighting a war with isreal or something?

In a word, No, the Magog war is to take spoil from Israel. But there is a war that is often mixed up with that war that is brought about to destroy Israel ( wipe it off the map) but comes before the Magog war. See Psalm 83.

And Gog is the "ruler" of Magog in the same way that the Prince of Persia was the "ruler" of Babylon back in the book of Daniel .

The chess pieces are being put in place but this is not the Magog war, Israel does not rest in peace and is without walls. But after the coming war it will be and Magog will come to take spoil and take revenge. The country's bordering Israel are taken out first ( and Israel may well be restored to her biblical borders) call this the inner ring of countries. Then the outer ring, Magog, come to take revenge.

But what do I know

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Its interesting that just because a country named itself israel, its assumed that its the biblical israel that God would protect and favour.
What about the covenant that the jews had to keep to benefit that favour? Is this israel being true to that covenant of being righteous and teaching people about God?

The prophecies were written/copied by pro-israelites(scribes) who considered themselves very special. How would they then interpret them and also slip in their understanding because they are certain that no matter what they do, God is still on their side.

I think God is biased only towards truth and justice. So whoever sticks to that would be helped by God.

Its also interesting to see how many christians(zionist christians) are ready to lick the feet of israel blind to all disgusting acts that it commits.

The jews have twisted the scriptures/interpretation to give God an unjust, unconditional israelite loving image and people have bought it up eagerly..

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No, castro.

gog and magog have *nothing* to do with this present m-east.
Sorry.

i know - they want you to beliéve that is does - and that 'russia' is Big Bad gog
and the 'muslimcountries' are then "russias allies"
- Nonsense.

sure; there may be some Concocted "conflict", in order to Lure [especially] fanatic christians into wanting to have their stubborn Lies realized - and im sure the extraterrestials will show some "magical electromagnec shield around present israel" , as if God was ' protecting this edomite nation' ,

- but gog and magog are only at the end of the 7 [?] year dark time on earth,
when He will return visibly
...but satan and his part of Infected mankind will try fight Him
thát is gog and magog
gog=satan, magog=his deluded part of mankind.

because 'gog' is named 'the ruler of the nile', and that is [egyptian] satan.

..whe the 1000 y will start,
the first 7 years into that, people will have to clean up the results of that insane attack against Him

and yes it appears,
that, even after 1000 years of His ' rule - that is: the rule of His people -
there STILL will be a part of mankind that will refuse
- hence it writes ' ...but gog has to be released again a while'

so
for the sake of what is dear to you,
forget this whole present 'israel' and the joke being set-up around it.
- its a Lie.

hope that helps.

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Yes I believe so. My belief is that when the US attacks Syria and they retaliate by sending chemical weapons to Israel, that they will respond by nuking Damascus. That will fulfill the prophecy about Damascus being destroyed in 1 hour and "never to be inhabited again".

You folks do realize that Gog gathers Magog TWICE in prophecy correct? Once before the 3 1/2 year "great tribulation", and once at the end of the 1000 years.

I think it's possible. (and I don't even buy into the book of Revelation). But the behavior of those involved seem exceptionally strange to me ... and I'm wondering if there is a negative supernatural element to their behavior. Obama's luv affair with the Muslim Brotherhood, a luv affair so strong that he has taken us to the brink of WWIII all in order to help the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria ... that's pretty evil IMHO.

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I can see that happening. It is a VERY possible situation. And it could happen in the next few weeks.
I just hope and pray that congress says 'no' and that Obama backs the heck off.
I'm glad that Pope Francis called for a world day of prayer for peace in Syria for Saturday

Ezikiel makes it seem as if this war will usher in the antichrist to see a peace treaty signed so this implies it is a precursor to that. It seems as if we are close, and scholars of prophecy like Rosenberg point out evidence of how we are seeing this fullfilled (he was an expert on foreign affairs and wrote a book specifically about Gog/Magog). I'm not clear on wheth psalms 83 is the same thing or a separate war but I am of the impression we have one war between now and the Gog/Magog war.

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Obama's luv affair with the Muslim Brotherhood, a luv affair so strong that he has taken us to the brink of WWIII all in order to help the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria ... that's pretty evil IMHO.

thats just what is apparent. Obama(USA) is doing whatever its doing to secure dominance of israel in the ME, the saudis and qataris are aligning them with Obama as it just serves their financial interest for now and they are wed with the fate of USA because of petrodollar.
The arabs haven't learnt from the mistakes of WWI when they were backstabbed after they had served their purpose of weakening the Ottoman empire.
The recent example is Al Qaeda being terrorists when it serves US interests and now they are rebels and freedom fighters find what the US media had said about taliban and Osama when they were fighting the soviet invasion.

The israelis have the US economy by the b@lls and can make it come tumbling down at their wish.
Their plan is to do it one day so that israel emerges as the super power and ruling nation of the world as their prophecies promise them.
They want to bring the lost glory from the time of David pbuh. Any chance you know how their weapons are named.
They won't hesistate to nuke the ME if they can make it appear that they were being threatened and their zionist christian friends won't mind as they are God's choosen people and He blesses the ones who bless israel and blah blah..

Originally posted by Dianec
Ezikiel makes it seem as if this war will usher in the antichrist to see a peace treaty signed so this implies it is a precursor to that. It seems as if we are close, and scholars of prophecy like Rosenberg point out evidence of how we are seeing this fullfilled (he was an expert on foreign affairs and wrote a book specifically about Gog/Magog). I'm not clear on wheth psalms 83 is the same thing or a separate war but I am of the impression we have one war between now and the Gog/Magog war.

Ezekiel is the first Gog war and Psalm 83 is about the second one at the end of the 1000 year reign.

I don't know looking for an exact set of events and links to take place seems wrong to me.
Possibly events occur that can be along the lines predicted by our forefathers, moral and wise men of yesteryear trying to look out for us.

But its just an opinion of what will happen. I think it is for us to determine the future, we are not pre destined by biblical prophecies but only informed of opinions.

In the crazy event SHTF all religions will claim they knew about it and it is for the better when in fact there is much better solutions than SHTF.


I also feel this is more than oil this time, Russia definitely seems to be trying to keep its market share of the region, possibly the Saudis or someone have asked the yanks to step in and benefit which they need right now.

Iraq and turkey have massive pipelines and market routes. It is strategic and not 1400 chemical attack motivated that is for sure though. Was a good comic strip showing Syria always having chemicals and no one caring but now its the last straw since they slipped one off. I mean isn't it against the same principles store the chemicals as it is to use it. We were aware they had them! And I think it was a mistake they used them, some small general messing up rather than a military decision. Unless they are the dumbest ever or want SHTF.

By all means correct me if I'm wrong, been a while since bible school. But isn't the anti Christ and the one world government the ones that lead out the attack on Israel?
I believe the battle of Armageddon is the one you are referring to. The one where Christ comes down and saves Israel where the blood of the soldiers spilt could fill a valley up to the horses mouths? After the battle begins the 1000 year reign. There are certain things that need to come to light. Anti Christ, one world government. No doubt we have some conspiracy that there is a one world ruling body but in the end times it should be brought to light first and their should be a figure head in place. NOW does it seem like we are setting up for it in the future? Sure. Once the hold out countries that aren't with the one world banking system are leveled. Yeah. Easy establishment of one world government. Hell citizens thoughts don't matter. We calling congress at 500 to 1 to not go to war but they still pushing ahead. The agenda is set. Now personally there is no symbolism of America in the bible. And we have always had Israel's back. I don't see America being a world power when the battle takes place.
And don't worry about nah Sayers. Science can point to different dimensions and explain the complexity of the universe but they don't believe that anywhere in any dimension there can be a deity that watches us closely. These same people can believe that time can fold over on itself and have a worm hole that links the two. Although no one has seen or have proof of one. Amazing they can believe that but not supernatural powers. To each their own. The difference between Christians and hardcore atheists is if a Christian sees a worm hole and can go back in time they can accept it for exactly what it is. A atheist can have god stand beside him or even touch the flames of hell itself and still come out saying it was a dream or psychological delusion. They refuse to admit maybe there are things that science hasn't explained yet. Personally I prefer the phrase " learn from our past or it will repeat itself". By association I am not a bible beater and read a good bit on sciences theories and views. But if a 6000+ year old book gives a list of things that will bring about the end times I start noticing when things on that list start popping up. Don't know if this is the end times. But if we find ourselves in the 7 years of tribulation soon I see alot of people looking at the bible ( that didn't believe ) like people always look at nostradomas after something he wrote matches a current event. Time will tell. Lets sit back and watch

although I see how people think this war is being manipulated to bring about the end of times I wonder why someone would be so keen, surely they would want to delay this unless they are religious nuts but then again surely a religious nut would see forcing war is not really morally right? unless they see it as their destiny or something that will benefit them?

that's a worrying thought that these Syrians are trying to instigate WWIII as they think the west deserves to be finally dragged into a nasty confrontation...

but surely someone would have spotted this and acted to stop them?