Nostradamus Mabus, US Navy & ObaMABUSh Connection to Syria?

rival
Nostradamus's naming of "Hister" (Hitler) in his most famous quatrain is
the one thing about Nostradamus that defies my mind's ability to debunk.

Actually it is one of the easiest to debunk....

en.wikipedia.org...

This is often interpreted to be a prediction of the war against Adolf Hitler's Nazi state in the twentieth century. However, none of the reputable sources listed support this view. In fact all of them point out that the name 'Hister' (as Nostradamus himself explains in his Almanac for 1554[2

Darkblade71
reply to post by flipflop

 

So what if something like what I stated in my original post happens, is it still drivel?

Just curious on your thoughts on that.

Interesting article by the way, yes I did read it

How accurate are his predictions? You could fill a library with books claiming to match quatrains with major events in world history — all, of course, deciphered and published after those events occurred. The straight fact is that nobody has ever used Nostradamus' writings to predict a future event in specific terms which later came true. Nobody has ever used Nostradamus' writings to predict a future event in specific terms which later came true. Nobody has ever used Nostradamus' writings to predict a future event in specific terms which later came true.

Just to quote a paragraph from your link

Guess I am trying here...lol

And if I succeed, according to your link, I would be the first

edit on 5-9-2013 by Darkblade71 because: (no reason given)

Neither I or anyone else can or wants to change your point of view, I personally do not buy into the assumption of your nostredamus related prediction, and the link is to an external website of which I have not relatioship to, its just a site that carries much info about the aforementioned prophet in this thread/post. so others may take a look and have some more facts to consider that may help them find their conclusions to your proposed connection. as I said previously, no distespect to you, I just can't accept your claim... nonetheless it's a point worth posting and getting it aired.. and as to what if your post statement happens is it still drivel... obviously not, if it happened, but on all past outcomes for nostredamus predicitons, it is highly unlikely... and for those who do go with the point of view of the post, the only conselation I can think of is, that sometimes the outsider does win.

reply to post by flipflop


Yeah, I hope it doesn't happen either, but it was eating at me, so I had to post it.

once the 9th of September comes and goes, I will probably feel a bit better about the whole thing, but you have to admit, the Mabus Obama/bush thing is weird..... even the Ray Mabus.... It can kind of make one go hmmmmmmm.....

at least to me it did.

reply to post by Darkblade71


Bush and Obama fit nicely in being the 2 beasts of revelations as well.

reply to post by Xeven


Kind of a scary thought!

Can you elaborate on the two beast of revelations for me?

reply to post by Darkblade71


Not tonight!

He never used real names in his predictions so I seriously doubt that the mabus he is talking about is a real person named mabus.

If i remember correctly he wrote his predictions in a cryptic type of gibberish so as not be accused of witchcraft or sorcery. he never uses real names of real people in his predictions.

The obama/bush angle is very plausible since obama is basically just carrying out bush`s policies, in fact obama and bush are so much alike in their policies that it would be extremely difficult for most people to guess which policies were enacted by which president.

reply to post by Tardacus


That is why I think it is so strange with Ray Mabus, almost like it verifies the ObaMABUSh thing.
In my mind, Ray Mabus is just to represent naval battle at the time of the prediction,if that makes any sense.

Darkblade71
Century 2, Quatrain 62
Mabus will soon die, then will come,
A horrible undoing of people and animals,
Suddenly one will see vengeance,
100 hands , thirst , hunger , when the comet will run.

Century 6 quatrain 33

His hand finally through the bloody alus,
He will be unable to protect himself by sea,
Between two rivers he will fear the military hand,
The black and angry one will make him repent of it.

Obama
Bush

Oba "maBus" h

Ray Mabus-
Secretary of the Navy

On March 27, 2009, Mabus was nominated by President Obama as Secretary of the Department of the Navy. He was sworn in on May 19, 2009, and held a ceremonial swearing in at Washington Navy Yard on June 18, 2009 where he was re-sworn in by the Secretary of Defense Robert Gates

Wikilink:Ray Mabus


I have a theory if Nostradamus was correct in his visions, that Mabus, is the US Navy,Bush and Obama, the bloody Alus, is Syria and the use of chemical weapons, and a somehow drastic action taken in the Mediterranean that destroys the fleet there followed by massive attacks.
Or it could be that The US fleet does massive attacks followed by an unleashing of chemical weapons on the Middle East on a much larger scale......
Either way, I am thinking the crisis in Syria is about MABUS,the Bloody Alus, (Alus means ship) and the angry black one.

I really think people need to take a serious look at these verses, and possibly others having to do with world war 3 and Nostradamus. It could be happening RIGHT NOW.

If there is a mass wiping out of The US fleet outside of Syria, then this prediction will of come true and we will know who Mabus is.

Now, Mabus, is an anagram, that fits the combination of ObaMA/BUSh, and then Ray Mabus, Secretary of the Navy.

Then there is comet ISON, which will light up the sky in October.
The black and angry one, could very well be Obama, and maybe someone else, or Just Obama, it depends on how you read it.

It does fit to the current situation if there is a wiping out of the US fleet or some sort of massive release of chemical or nuclear weapons in the Middle East.

Or if there is a massive attack on Israel as retaliation for US attacks on Syria.

I am sure there is a lot more Nostradamus 3rd world war quatrains, but these I want to point out, because current events really do suggest at least the Century 2, Quatrain 62 prediction.

I am almost certain this crisis in Syria is connected to this prediction, IF there is anything to Nostradamus.


If anyone else has any other noted Nostradamus Quatrains they think are connected, now would be the time to share those. To those who don't believe Nostradamus and say his predictions could fit almost anything, yeah, they could, however, let's see what happens here over the next month, because if something REALLY BAD happens in the Middle East, Nostradamus nailed it with Mabus,
IMO.


Yes, I know it is Doom Porn, but I think maybe we are starting to see these predictions coming to light.

Only time will tell,
but it is very fitting because of the anagram, and comet passing next month.

If ISON is blue in the sky,
then it will fit the Hopi prophecy as well with the blue star Kachina.
Timing is everything.
And a lot of things seem to be falling into place.

Or maybe it is nothing

edit on 5-9-2013 by Darkblade71 because: (no reason given)

Whatever your viewpoint, the probabilities of the name Mabus which is unusual in the extreme coming from a 500 year old seer is defying all the odds. Especially as this scenario unfolds, at this present time. Couple this in with the fact of the worlds economy, does use wars to reset itself, the next few months could be critical.

I have always been intrigued by Nostradamus's prophecies because of their"crypting" it is a great mystery to me. I do see what the OP implies and as he said himself, we will wait and see and if it happens...

For the people claiming "debunked" due to translations, you also have a point IMO, but we can all say the exact same thing about the Bible. And millions upon millions worship it every day. IMO, There is more chance that the Great Book has been falsely translated because of it's age and original laguage that is way older the 16th century French.

IS this a prediction of things to come?

I say.......
IMPOSSIBLE = NO
POSSIBLE = Maybe
PROBABLE = We'll see

reply to post by Teye22


That is kind of what I am saying, it is possible, because the pieces seem to fit. I can understand people saying he has been debunked, as a lot of his predictions were very vague, however, this is one where things are seeming to fit before something happens, IF something happens.

Originally posted by Darkblade71
reply to post by Teye22

 

That is kind of what I am saying, it is possible, because the pieces seem to fit. I can understand people saying he has been debunked, as a lot of his predictions were very vague, however, this is one where things are seeming to fit before something happens, IF something happens.

I think something is going to happen. If you have the US fleet firing missiles into Syria. With the Chinese and Russian, navies in the same area "Observing". My guess is that they will be observing how good the New Syrian anti ship missiles actually perform. If they take out the American fleet. Then anything might happen, as the chaos gains momentum. The rationale could turn very nasty, like. "The act of aggression on our allies the Syrian people, leaves Russia and China, with no choice but to respond in kind". When you look at American foreign policy (For right or wrong) being the world policeman, isn't because of some wonderful gift to humanity, That the American tax payer coughs up for as a form of foreign aid. Most of the Yanks don't even know where Syria is.! Could we be looking at some form of Cold war foreign policy that staggers on as some form of Automaton, so entrenched in the red tape, that it cant change? Either way its got to the point where Obama is dammed if he does and dammed if he don't.

reply to post by anonentity


Yep, Obama is stuck in a no win situation no matter what he does.

reply to post by Darkblade71


Interesting theory on the quatrains of Nostradamus.

It has been so long since I read the books of Nostradamus, I had forgotten about this one.
It does seem to fit, and the timing is right.

Thank you for bringing it to our attention. All we can do is wait and see what happens. S&F

reply to post by sled735


Well, I hope it is wrong, but it set off alarm bells in my head.

Probably nothing,
but you never know and it does seem to fit in multiple ways.

Originally posted by rival
Nostradamus's naming of "Hister" (Hitler) in his most famous quatrain is
the one thing about Nostradamus that defies my mind's ability to debunk.

As vague and enigmatic as most of his prophesies were I still cannot get
past the fact that at least a few were very close and came to pass...

If Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus decides to sail to the Mid-East and
somehow thru war meets his demise there....I WILL sit up and take notice.

Though I doubt he would ever board another fighting ship in a theater of war...

edit on 5-9-2013 by rival because: (no reason given)

The only problem I have with Nostradamus's vision of Hister is, why hide the name of a man who wasn't born yet? If the quatrains are there to prove that he was right, why not say the name to warn people, instead of a post death "told ya so"?

reply to post by superman2012


No one knows.....

Good question though.

A few weeks ago I came up with the following while seeing the name Mabus.
I don't know if it's been done before or if there is any validity to it, but here it is.


MABUS

Mabus = supposed antichrist
antichrist = against Christ
Christ = declared to be Alpha and Omega
Alpha = A
Omega = O

A O = Christ
Mabus comes between Christ and others
add Nostradamus word play

A O
A mab O - us


reversed

O bam A - us

Obama US


Personally, even if Nostradamus had the gift or certain fore knowledge, I'm not sure i fully trust him.

Perhaps the meaning of "Death" in Century 2, Quatrain 62 refers to "change".

Like:

Mabus will soon [bring change], then will come - etc. etc. (bad stuff goes here)


We all know how Obama and "change" go together.

Anagrams and Nostradamus 101

Words and phrases are scrambled to construct other words and phrases sing the same letters, E.G.

"rapis" becomes Paris or "chyren" is Henry 2nd's latinised name "Henryc".

Phonetics allow for V's to become U's or Y's to become I's, S to become C or I to be J

Nostradamus made his own variations for switching, or replacing letters. 1 or 2 letters can be dropped
E.G. Noir becomes roi - king.

Letters can be added : Hister becomes Hitler , Hadrie becomes Henrie and finally Henri of Navarre.



So we might translate the anagrams for a future antichrist emerging from the middle east like this:
Bear with me I know Gaddafi is dead but this is how would work.

Mabus - mABUs where the first m and last s are dropped. Adaluncatif - Cadafi where the T is dropped and the word Luna stands for the cresent moon, symbolising Islam.

From this you derive the decoded name Cadafi Luna (Cadafi of the cresent)

Abu Nidal was one of Gadaffi's closest closest allies. The anagram Adaluncatif can also reveal his name
A(dal)u(n)cat(i)f.....Nidal. Drop the C and remaining letters A-U-A-T-F can be used to spell "Fatau" Or Fatah
The PLO soldiers of Abu Nidal

Other quatrains referring to Mabus

C2 Q62......................C2 Q30...............C10 Q72.........C8 Q77...............C3 Q30...........C4 Q62..........C10 Q96

There are others but these are a good start

I'll post them later if I get time

Cool thread Dark
I hope that helped clear up Nostradamus a bit for there are other factors to take into account as well such as reverse image word play, names and localities, ellipsis and synecdoche.

But that's a start ................................. I'll be in the corner with a nose bleed

Cody