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First on CNN: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has turned down a Russian request to meet to discuss Syria, his office says.
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by neformore
If only the same reaction had appeared when Afghanistan and Iraq were attacked.
I hope you guys get the result you want from your congress. It appears our Parliament over here listened this time.
I will say this though - Obama has taken this to congress. He didn't have to at all - and yet you guys are still slating him. You are trying to make the guy out to be some kind of tyrant and yet here he is following a democratic process. That, I'm afraid, is just rubbish, and proves that the only thing that matters to most of you is hating on the man, regardless of what he does.
I'll wager if congress votes no to action, and nothing happens, it will be less than 24 hours before there are posts on ATS from haters decrying him as indecisive and weak for not taking action, and making the US look soft to the world.
I'll wager that 24 hours after a vote of "no" passes, Obama will do it anyway.
I'll also further wager that regardless of the vote, Obama has a scapegoat in terms of the results after the attack in Syria.
If it goes well, Obama takes credit.
If it goes poorly, Obama will place blame on congress.
Regardless, Obama comes out of this smelling quite nicely.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by neformore
If only the same reaction had appeared when Afghanistan and Iraq were attacked.
I hope you guys get the result you want from your congress. It appears our Parliament over here listened this time.
I will say this though - Obama has taken this to congress. He didn't have to at all - and yet you guys are still slating him. You are trying to make the guy out to be some kind of tyrant and yet here he is following a democratic process. That, I'm afraid, is just rubbish, and proves that the only thing that matters to most of you is hating on the man, regardless of what he does.
I'll wager if congress votes no to action, and nothing happens, it will be less than 24 hours before there are posts on ATS from haters decrying him as indecisive and weak for not taking action, and making the US look soft to the world.
I'll wager that 24 hours after a vote of "no" passes, Obama will do it anyway.
I'll also further wager that regardless of the vote, Obama has a scapegoat in terms of the results after the attack in Syria.
If it goes well, Obama takes credit.
If it goes poorly, Obama will place blame on congress.
Regardless, Obama comes out of this smelling quite nicely.
Maybe you bash obama too much? Kerry and McCain should be bigger targets based on their stance so far.
I think the government will have to back-out or face terrible consequences from lots of pissed off people.
Just my honest 2 cents!
Originally posted by wildtimes
How many of you members in this thread have contacted YOUR Congressmen?
I have emailed mine. Please do so, and DO IT NOW! The article has a clickable link with a map that will steer you to their contact info. Please DO THIS.
Thanks, OP. S/F. IMPEACH OBAMA! (I put that in my email to my Rep!)
I'm proud of the military personnel holding signs in front of their faces, in uniforms/BDUs, saying "I DID NOT SIGN UP TO FIGHT FOR AL QAEDA IN SYRIA!" (Or TO FIGHT THE POOR FOR THE RICH...)
Check out the article. GO TEAM AMERICA!! That is US! WE are America and WE SAY NO. GOD DAMN IT, NO!!
The American people are war weary. We should pay attention to their common sense. We should not engage in conflicts around the world unless they directly affect our national security. This is not the case with Syria. Both sides of the Syrian conflict are dominated by forces opposed not only to American interests but to American values. For those who say we should intervene against Assad because he's a dictator, we should have learned our lesson in Iraq, which cost us the lives of 6,000 Americans and tens of thousands wounded, not to mention a trillion dollars added to the debt that hangs around the necks of the American people. Even worse, those we sacrificed for are not grateful. Getting involved in Syria would be even worse because it would indicate we haven't learned our lesson. America should not retreat from the world, nor can we police the world. Our military should not be engaged in any way in the Syrian conflict.
I will therefore vote against any resolution approving America's military engagement in the Syrian conflict.