Dissociative Identity (Multiple Personality) Disorder and Past Lives

I've yet to do any research on this as the issue was only just presented to me, and rather than reinvent the wheel I thought I'd put it out to those ATSers that have a bit more years reading on these topics than myself.

A friend of mine, a female in her early 20's, is diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder. She acknowledges there are 3 main people that inhabit her, one of those being a personality of a young child. (those who know about the condition; The usual circumstances in which the condition manifest are present, but we don't need to cover that for this thread).

Anyway today she asks me about past lives, and goes into detail a dream she had last night that she was admit it was from a past life.

The imagery in the dream she recounted is not what I'm having trouble getting my head around. Its this:
She stated that she laid down to go to sleep that night and something punched her in the face as she laid there... then went to sleep had the dream... woke up...

Today she has a black eye in the eye that she claims was hit when she laid down. She said it felt like a small hand that hit her--a childs hand. And claims she was laying in such a way she couldn't have punched herself; I'm wondering--could it have been her child personality that hit her? either physically and her not knowing (part of DI) or even in a non-physical state?

Any thoughts or links to further reading I would be most happy

reply to post by cartenz


Yes, a lot of mentally ill people can self-harm via lack of awareness .

So Id say its her alternate personality acting out.

Like they feel out of control of their actions, they have amnesia .

'just diagnosed'...is your friend aware of her other personalities? i mean, do the personalities communicate with each other? is one 'out front' and another rides shotgun? how extreme is the switching between personalities? can u definitely tell she switched? or does her personage remain fairly stable in demeanor, tone of voice, perspective? when she goes to bed is it the kids out front? or one of the adults?

why i ask these questions...if a multiple is fairly well integrated then the personality switches arent as extreme...if she isnt aware of her other personalities then the switching will be more extreme and there will always be .missing time' and 'where did these clothes come from?' and how did i end up here" those kinds of expressions/questions. then you can approach the question of the incident when she went to bed. if the parts are communicating with each other then the possibility of self harm is less...but anytime a multiple is under stress this will bring out self harm. hope this helps

reply to post by cartenz


One personality punches another? Absolutely. I say this because there was an incident where a woman had apparently cut her wrists in attempted suicide. When we got her into the truck, she seemed lucid but at one point she changed, after asking her who she was she gave me a totally different answer. Turned out she had 7 or more personalities one of them didn't like another personality and as a result slit her own wrists in an attempt to kill the hated personality. Side note, one of the personalities was Satan.

reply to post by cartenz


Does she remember anything about being in a military base undergoing mind control.

You might want to read a free book about Monarch Mind Control at www.scribd.com...

Its possible that she has 3 'alters' or 3 split personalities. They commonly start at age 7 where the initial spirit is so traumatized that it stays at the date of the horrific experience. This is the child that exists or alter number 1.

The woman in this video exposes the truth about Sybil - and the ‘change’ that took place in psychiatrics after attention was drawn to her case. Multiple Personality Disorder was ‘created’ if you will due to Sybil. The problem is Sybil was not an MP.

It’s a great listen.

Author, Journalist and Editor Debbie Nathan took part on the Spring 2012 series, Miscarriages of Justice and Wrongful Convictions on April 3, to talk about her new book, Sybil Exposed: The Extraordinary Story Behind the Famous Multiple Personality Case and how cases like these affect the judicial system.
Sociology and Criminal Justice Professor Emily Horowitz organized the series.

(from video description)

I’ve not done much study up to check out Debbie Nathan’s info - but she sure comes across as completely credible.

Notedly - Sybil's mother did not rape her or abuse her. Most of Sybil's memories were 'created' while under sodium pentothol and 'planted' via hypnosis.

Sybil was diagnoses as a hysteric when she was in college.

The author of the research suggest there is no validity to MPD.

Very interesting stuff.

peace

It's interesting you bring this up - I was thinking about hosting a thread on the subject (this my information).
If there's a great deal of interest here I might.

What I wanted to post though - I hope your friend finds some help. I'm not throwing stones at her - I want to make that clear. I'm only giving you the info you asked for.

Good luck and God Bless!

Edit To Add: If you look up Debbie Nathan on social media there is a LOT of information to be found on her pages. I believe she takes questions also - but don't hold me to that one.

peace

reply to post by zyrktec


Thanks. I wont address the question you asked; I'll take them as rhetorical, tho you have given me something to think about I didn't take into account.

BTW: I said diagnosed, not "just diagnosed"--the diagnosis was long before I met her. Not that it matters to your context.

The nearest way to think of it in normal terms is when someone " blanks out" and then proceeds to beat someone up.

This does happen. There is lack of communication between different areas of the brain basically and certain " buffer" zones hence the different personalities.

Also its like the beginning of a panic attack when someone " zones out". That's what they do

reply to post by silo13


I was aware of Sybil, I knew she would be bought up... I mentioned her to this girl when she first told me about her mental illnesses because I thought she was spinning me BS...

Trauma can do some #ed up things to the mind. Especially to that of a child.

Thanks

go buy a pack of cookies and wrap them in burlap and bind them. keep them in the room. start giving thanks for meals and you will find some balance.

That is very disturbing. I find MPD one of the most fascinating topics ever.

Whether it is natural or artificial is now a debate but it does appear to exist. The shift between eye color and blood diseases and total fluency in foreign languages freaks me out.

Those holding on to "past lives" might actually be many different people that desire to be the same person - a kind of "mating of souls".

This must also be separated from the primal "amalgamation" where one being "pairs" or "consumes" another, thereby becoming more powerful, and must and then continue to divide itself to spawn even more complex creation - a few become one, and then from one becomes many, or in other words, evolution.

Lastly, it must be separated from those whom are trying to "complete themselves" - usually a process of recollection, whereby an individual takes all his effects from time and space, and realises absolute unity. If this realisation is sucessful, one would become a "completed being".

There is also "sourcery" whereby individuals try to "enslave" other spirits and keep them as "pets" or "personalities" in a quest to enhance thier ego. It should be noted here that, such individuals still do not understand that awareness is beyond form and this includes, the physical body, the mind, the brain, the spirit, and even the soul, and also a lack in understanding of karma whereby if such an individual does attain spirithood, his or her spirit would most likely end up being enslaved as well.

I've worked with people with Dissociative Identities and also researched it a bit during my Master's degree (particularly in regards to alien abductees), and yeah switching in sleep is quite common for people with DID. I'd say it could well have been an alternative personality punching her, although from her own arm.

reply to post by RedCairo


I dont have info on eye-colour change in this instance, but it is something she does (mood related)...

thanks

Hi, I felt I had to comment on this thread for the purpose of getting it out there, not expecting any explanations but some opinions would be great.
Ok I am 35 year old lady who has not been diagnosed with any personality issues or any other mental health issues, yet I am sure I have some/many complexities.
I live a rather reclusive life through choice and venture out socially on occasion. I do have a teenage son who I have a very good bond with and I do my best as a parent.
Until I saw this thread I often wondered what the hell is going on with me in the sense of I feel like different people at different times. Sometimes I am full of confidence, bold & brash and quite overbearing if you dont know me, some might say Miss know it all & unable to use tact. Sometimes I am very spiritual and wise and calm, someone that ppl, turn to for an alternative view on there own lives. Sometimes I am shy & insecure, in these times I feel like I am 14 years old. Sometimes I am argumentative and aggressive prone to lashing out verbally or physically for reasons that in a different mode I cant understand why I would behave in such a way. Whilst in each character I see myself in the mirror as I am during these diff times. So when I am in teen I very often get asked for I.D in shops and I feel everybody else also sees me as a teen and so im not confident to express my opinions and views or speak with adults or converse with men as I feel myself turning red and I cant look in a mans eyes for fear of being realized as a mere child. Likewise when I am in my bold phases I am very flirty (verging on predatory). I feel like hot stuff! I am full of banter and very quick witted. My physical image also changes with the changes of personality, although I am the same person when I am a teen my hair is tied back & I wear tomboyish clothes and rarely put any make up on(perhaps lip gloss) when I am the brash me I have ladylike clothes on nice outfits, shoes/boots my hair seems to style long & down very nicely with oomph (it never does if im not in this personality) I wear full make up, even nail polish and mascara matching handbags with shoes the works. When I am the calm, spiritually in tune person with such peace & knowledge I seem to morph into a gypsy woman, flowy dresses and sandals (rain or shine) I am drawn to cook things when in this state of mind, I make jams & sauces and all the food I cook is delicious, I spend time doing rituals for wellbeing using herbs and objects that I have no knowledge of from books or such, instinctively. The person that causes me so many problems in my life is the aggressive type, I actually grow 2 bumps on my forehead above my brow and I instill fear in all who come into contact with me, My voice seems to be deeper and my son says his friends fear me if they see me when they knock on the door and I often get into fights with my own friends/family & strangers during this time. So I stay in as much as possible when I feel I may be this one. Occasionally I change whilst I am out and about and this causes me some probs, when I have been overtly sexual with a guy and suddenly I am a prude and very nervous of the same man that I had been all over 10 mins before. Or when I am having a lovely afternoon with some girlfriends, giving them all the benefits of my wisdom lol and suddenly I am very argumentative and harsh towards them for no apparent reason to them or myself when I try to remember why it all kicked off in such a horrid way. The more I am writing this the more I fear I may actually be mentally ill? I have never said these words to another living soul so I shall now read what I have written & see if I have explained it right. I wont be changing it though because I am at present in a nice calm mindset and the words I have written are from a very rational frame of mind. Please if anybody feels they would like to jot something/anything down in response I would like to read it. Thanks

reply to post by Vviena1606

I actually grow 2 bumps on my forehead above my brow and I instill fear in all who come into contact with me,

I thought you were serious until that.

reply to post by RedCairo


Lol, yes that description does sound rather far fetched but that is the only words I could find to mind. I should then now clarify. My face at those times is so tensed I suppose that my brow does look much more defined than at other times. Ppl have jokingly mentioned the lil horns (jest off course) im not the devil
Hope you can take my plight more seriously now?

Oh & regarding the fear being instilled, I am very serious. I am like a big human ball of aggression. If I do venture out during this time I inevitably end up in a scrap or getting into some sort of violent encounter. As I said before I am not too sure why I have behaved in that way when I am going over the scenario at a later time but whilst I am in that negative persona I feel totally justified in my actions. Dont get me wrong this personality is not a serial killer (I hope) but has some huge anger management issues and major persecution complex. So apart from not taking me seriously what if any feedback might you have?

People who are messed up enough to be labeled DID are hardcore liars.

Have you ever known someone who was such a good liar that they ended up fooling their selves?

Couple that with a wild imagination, and dashes of trauma throughout ones life, and you get DID.

Basically they can't handle reality, so make up lies. They keep lying until they become the lie.

I have little sympathy for DID patients, as most are gaining from keeping up the act.

The one DID chick I knew conveniently slipped in and out of awareness of certain things in order to frame those around her as bad people. She even sent a "friend" to jail over stuff she imagined, and genuinely fooled herself into believing.

They're very weak individuals, who prey on others pity.

reply to post by webedoomed


Wow, thats hardcore.
However I do not take your views personally as I have no idea if what im going through is even that condition. But what I have written I can say with all honesty is true. I myself am only just trying to process these realizations. I wrote it in the hope that somebody would have personal experience in such a matter. I can assure you that I am NOT a liar in any shape or form, never have been. My mum always says that is my big downfall in life, im always way too honest & people she says do not like that. But seriously, all this has become the bane of my life since becoming aware of my definite personality changes but I do wonder if this is a common thing that ppl just dont speak of?
Yes I have gone through a whole lot of trauma in my life and on reflection have always wondered why I led myself down those paths (what was I thinking). Personally I have never got anybody into trouble or accused anybody of anything, even the ppl who have done me harm I have just moved forward in life always believing I brought it on myself in some way. I am NOT a weak person physically or mentally, I do have emotional weaknesses though as im sure many ppl who have been hurt along the way do. That does not give me a reason as to what the hell could be happening to me in my day to day life.
Lastly just to clarify I am not writing these posts for any sort of sympathy or seeking attention, I saw this thread and I thought I could get some knowledgeable feedback to aid me. Have no desire to be put through the NHS system for therapy or zombifying meds.