New Radio Wave Treated Water Called A Miracle. Will Abolish Pesticides... Unless Monsanto Objects!

Is this the same type technology as a product called "Might Wash" used in Hydroponics to kill spider mites. This stuff works wonders and safe to use up to the day of harvest without any pesticide residues. This has been around for a while now!!

Mighty Wash

I'm sorry if I missed it in this thread but can someone please provide:

1. The frequency (and carrier frequency if there is one)

2. The full ramp, if the frequency is a range

3. The output wattage

4. The duty cycle

5. The duration and/or intensity vs. water volume

The input power was already specified as 24V I believe.

This information spread around the world would allow the whole world to try it themselves promptly and prevent large corporations from suppressing the information one way or another.

This information if not provided just makes it all a woo claim which will do few people any good at all.

I happen to have a serious interest in these things and I would be more than happy to experiment and document it, if documentation of the operating parameters were provided.

Originally posted by bottleslingguy
reply to post by Hanslune

 

there's a difference between being smart and right and a being smart and wrong and you and Phage don't know it

Actually we do but you're not able to determine it - ah yes 'MAGIC' water.......what can possibly be wrong with that concept.

Originally posted by Alchemst7
Is this the same type technology as a product called "Might Wash" used in Hydroponics to kill spider mites. This stuff works wonders and safe to use up to the day of harvest without any pesticide residues. This has been around for a while now!!

Mighty Wash

edit on 31-8-2013 by Alchemst7 because: (no reason given)

Stuff

Mighty Wash is a ready to use “Frequency Imprinted” foliar spray. It is imprinted with special frequencies which target fleshy bodied insects. The use of frequency is nothing new to our world, and as you probably know all things have a frequency. What makes our products special is the fact that our proprietary frequencies are holding and stable for at least 2 years and running.

Yep a form of homeopathic thinking - and we know how well that work eh? For thirteen dollars you can have quart of water......

reply to post by Hanslune

Uh oh. Frequency used as a noun instead of a adjective.
Put it down and carefully step away.

Here, lets toss a quart of frequencies in there. That oughta do it!

reply to post by bottleslingguy
You just shoved your foot in your mouth.

You really need to digest what you read and/or post.

There is no problem about making an honest profit at all.

What you originally posted pushed "alkaline water;" i.e. high ph level h2o. That is what prompted me to say scam central.

The 2nd link you posted talked about alkalizing diets. Let me thank you by quoting an excerpt from it:

What is an Alkaline Diet?

Many people become confused in regards to alkaline and acid diets because they think that it refers to the actual pH level of the food itself. This is not the case, as some foods which are highly acidic in their natural form, such as lemons and limes, actually have an alkaline effect on the body.

Are you even able to understand the difference at all?

Did you know pollution and the resulting acid rain makes freshwater alkaline? It's not a good thing.

link

Increased alkalinity in rivers affects drinking water and sewage treatment. It also increases the growth of algae.

The more alkaline the water, the more there is also a risk of ammonia toxicity, which can affect wildlife and food production near rivers.

The most alkaline rivers were found near Washington DC, Baltimore, Philadelphia and Atlanta - rivers which supply those cities' drinking water.

The findings were published in the journal Environmental Science and Technology.

Alkaline water wetter better...yeah right

Like I said...scam central.

You're on a conspiracy site. Your mindset should be "is this alkaline water scam actually making people more gullible; maybe even more...evil?"

Don't say I didn't warn you, huh.

I jest

to me it sounds like it does the same as chelates..which make the root system of a plant take in nutrient more efficiently
its interesting and worth looking into, surfactants are used to make water wetter or reduce surface tension and it is for sure used by variouse nutrient manufactures..this sounds like doing a simular thing sans any chemicals
as far as the not needing pesticides i think the reason being that the plant would be much stronger and pests usually attack sick or unhealthy plants..there would be no other reason that i can see.

reply to post by reject

I haven't sent for mine yet but my point is that some people just make their mind up and that's it. Is it possible this could lead to eliminating pesticides and such? what if it can, wouldn't that be a very positive thing? So what if something sounds weird or quacky or doesn't make sense to some people- there's a lot out there we don't understand so we should just ignore it? What about the link between cancer and acidity should we ignore that? maybe there's something there that's very simple and could replace chemo? I just get tired of the smug attitudes towards anything non-traditional.

Well replacing pesticides would be nice, but if we are merely beholden to yet another corporation for money -- and that would promptly be owned (and patent buried, if necessary) by the big chem corps, just like has been done in food and other industries -- then how much did things really improve?

If this is a natural thing, why not just share the information? There are still plenty of people who would buy it just so they didn't have to go to the trouble of making it themselves. Are the people making it really deluded enough to believe they would stand the slightest chance against the entrenched competition?

I'm a capitalist, yet I see that "lack of altruism" has been the downfall of some of our culture: a few things medicinal and agricultural shared openly, rather than hoarded by people who were then easy to silence if not outright kill, could have made such a difference in our world already.

RedCairo
I'm sorry if I missed it in this thread but can someone please provide:

1. The frequency (and carrier frequency if there is one)

2. The full ramp, if the frequency is a range

3. The output wattage

4. The duty cycle

5. The duration and/or intensity vs. water volume

The input power was already specified as 24V I believe.

This information spread around the world would allow the whole world to try it themselves promptly and prevent large corporations from suppressing the information one way or another.

This information if not provided just makes it all a woo claim which will do few people any good at all.

I happen to have a serious interest in these things and I would be more than happy to experiment and document it, if documentation of the operating parameters were provided.

edit on 31-8-2013 by RedCairo because: (no reason given)

Here the best info so far I think

rexresearch.com...

reply to post by WeAre0ne


Then I need you to enlighten me, because from the physics I learned it came from what was already there...Do you mind explaining what your version of the big bang is?

reply to post by filledcup

So its no big deal because you have heard of it. The ancient technology being rediscovered is going to be the singularity event that Ray Kurzweil predicted he just didn't look backwards, or didn't believe it could exist, for the explanation of how scientific and technological comprehension leaps so far forward so rapidly. Once we see who we are and remember who we were there will be a combining of ancient and modern technology and the economy would only grow before our big meeting with ourselves in which the economy as we know it is abolished due to overabundance of everything. IT STARTED

reply to post by MRuss Honestly, the scientists among us, are really working hard and i am proud of them. President Obama is a lawyer but during his tenure of Office, so many good scientific results have been achieved. This means that his administration is commited to making the human race, to continue to survive and be free of major problems. I like this news because i am an agriculturist with specialisation in Animal science

reply to post by RedCairo


According to their website, it creates a 27 MHz wave, runs on 3 amps and uses only 8 watts of power per hour. That is all the technical data I was able to retrieve from the manufacturer's website that we were given. (www.viaqua.ie...)

I do have some questions about this technology, it alters the configuration of hydrogen in the water molecule to reduce the cohesion of the water itself in order to make it "wetter". Is this a permanent change and if so what will the effects be on the ecology as a whole? I would only have to assume that the effects could only be temporary at best and that the molecules would again revert back to their original formation after loosing the gained energy of the radio waves, but I am no molecular biologist/chemist, so here i am just guessing. Could anyone explain this better to me?

It is all energy medicine. Many people who dont understand something have to come up with orthodox explanations in order to explain it to themself. This happens all the time in lots of situations. I believe that this business with 'altering the molecular structure of water' is a similar thing. Homeopathy was working just fine for ages and kept the Queen Mother alive and fit for many years in spite of herself. Now though, it has gone out of fashion because it does not allow the large drugs companies to charge millions for trials and research into alopathic medicines. The Swiss still use it alongside their normal medicines and many people worldwide use flower and tree remedies for emotional problems as well as physical ones.

Do not dismiss something as fake just because you cannot explain it and it is people like you who force the use of orthodox explanations of this frequency and that frequency to describe energy which science has not been able to get a handle on yet. Some things which just work, cannot be continually repeated either, so get over it.

There is more to this Universe than science currently knows about and the arrogance of scientists who pronounce something as valid or invalid does not foster investigation into the unknown.

Research Albert Abrams to see what I mean. This guy was a well respected doctor in the 18th & 19th century and part of the establishment. He discovered something which no-one could explain and was hounded out of medical circles as a fraud. There have been many well known people who have stuck their neck out only to have it chopped off due to people shouting fraud and scam. What are you all so worried about? If some treatments work for some people why should it be removed for the public's safety? A Nanny State or controlling authorities? Rather like wide-ranging restrictions in the name of National Security nowadays.

RedCairo -

I happen to have a serious interest in these things and I would be more than happy to experiment and document it, if documentation of the operating parameters were provided.

And if it turns out to not need electricity to 'work' then what? Is it going to be pronounced a fake and scam?

Originally posted by rcanem
reply to post by RedCairo

 

According to their website, it creates a 27 MHz wave, runs on 3 amps and uses only 8 watts of power per hour. That is all the technical data I was able to retrieve from the manufacturer's website that we were given. (www.viaqua.ie...)

Thanks very much. That is probably enough, I suppose; square waves and 50% duty cycle and a 26.0001-28.0001 ramp would probably be sufficient to cover whatever effects they are generating even if their details are different.

Hmmn. I would have to buy and introduce pests. Was it specific to the kind of pests?

Also: was it specific to whether this resulted in the destruction of pests vs. the avoidance of pests?

As the latter is often achieved fairly well with the improvement of the plant (without regard to any primary effect on the pests).

Originally posted by rcanem
I do have some questions about this technology, it alters the configuration of hydrogen in the water molecule to reduce the cohesion of the water itself in order to make it "wetter".

You mean it reduces the surface tension, I assume.

Originally posted by qmantoo
Homeopathy was working just fine for ages

Homeopathy has never worked fine, it is just another scam.

Originally posted by qmantoo
...force the use of orthodox explanations of this frequency and that frequency to describe energy which science has not been able to get a handle on yet.

Perhaps I missed the post which got you rather riled -- wasn't the OP/thread actually about a frequency technology?

Some things which just work, cannot be continually repeated either, so get over it.

That approach probably doesn't improve the receptivity of whomever you're speaking to.

There is more to this Universe than science currently knows about and the arrogance of scientists who pronounce something as valid or invalid does not foster investigation into the unknown.

I agree with that. Although pronouncing something as invalid is part of what science is for. I believe the problem point is not with science as a process but with cultural scientism as a sociology.

RedCairo -

I happen to have a serious interest in these things and I would be more than happy to experiment and document it, if documentation of the operating parameters were provided.

And if it turns out to not need electricity to 'work' then what? Is it going to be pronounced a fake and scam?

One of my favorite things is how in many topics, I am considered a skeptic and potential debunker, while the actual skeptics and debunkers are busy stomping holes in me over in other threads.

I believe that the best of real science is done by people who have a blend of the pragmatic, of creativity, and of a desire to look for interesting end-results, for the sake of the interest and the result, without much regard to whether it is achieved via theories we already believe. Another way to say this might be, slightly creative people with an engineering bent, are probably far better equipped for 'real' science than 'technologists.'

This thread is specific to a frequency technology. I am currently interested in this as part of a spectrum of related personal studies. (Puns abound, there.) So that is the thing which I would like to experiment with. One reason is because physical technology-centered approaches tend to be more replicable, as you must know. Well, and another reason is because I'm a layman science-geek so I have a variety of little plant and lab and health efforts and readings on research and experiments going at any given time.

If it "does not require electricity to work" then I would say it has not so much to do with this actual thread and the news media article which spawned it regarding a 27 MHz wave applied to water. I am not saying nor implying that your alternative focus is inherently invalid, in part because this is not the thread for that; only that it would be a different focus than this thread, as then you are referring to radionics [by which I loosely mean what we might call 'homeopathic psi rapport'], not electromagnetic technology.

If, in another separate thread, you wish to discuss or debate the use of either
a) heironymous or other empty machines with knobs;
b) psi rapport with the intelligences of nature;
c) fundamental patterns of geometry and their use with b);
d) eloptic energy, orgone energy, chi or qi energy, et al.
and the application of any of the above to the health and/or pest infestation of plants,

I would be happy to join you there.