Syria military intervention on hold? "Obama: I have not yet made decision to strike Syria"

Well here comes the backtracking. Much to the chagrin of the ATS'ers, this thing "may" not come to fruition. The longer it drags out the less likely it is and dragging out is going to happen.

"As British PM Cameron takes step back on Syria strike amid UK Parliament dissent, US president tells PBS that Washington has concluded that Assad regime behind chemical attack, makes case for "tailored, limited" strike."

IT means the outcry was loud enough they had to pause.

Now prepare for the next Terror attack... Syrian terrorist of course, but not Al Qaeda because they are the rebels, so it will be state sponsored...

Man what a tangle web they weave...

ETA: Many of us on ATS took the time to write our reps as well.

Is al queda(sp?) even real??? I mean I haven't heard any real threat from them ( from the perspective of social media

I just read a report on the Security Council meeting today that supposedly Russia and China walked out of.

Obama had to tell cameron to back off a little as he was being too hawkish....and Obama didnt want it to sound like a UN approval was the be all and end all for an attack.


I do beleive the mass outcry of public opinion against it and the fact no evidence has been proven either way yet has led to the pause.


Then again, it could all be bluff....the silence before the storm.

This thing is getting watered down and weaker by the second. In the end i expect a joint UN Security Counsel statement against the use of chemical weapons all signed by the 5 permanant members. No missile strikes and Obama will show the world that the threat of military action backed by diplomacy is useful and ended with no military action.

Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
I just read a report on the Security Council meeting today that supposedly Russia and China walked out of.

Obama had to tell cameron to back off a little as he was being too hawkish....and Obama didnt want it to sound like a UN approval was the be all and end all for an attack.


I do beleive the mass outcry of public opinion against it and the fact no evidence has been proven either way yet has led to the pause.


Then again, it could all be bluff....the silence before the storm.

You don't tell your enemy you are going to attack them, You just do...

Thats a very good point, could all be smoke and mirrors.

Yesterday I read about a poll that had a whopping 9% agreeing with any attack on Syria, jeez I thought congess had low ratings.

The administration is putting the proverbial finger in the air and finding the wind blows against it, thank god.

As is stated on another thread, this thing has been coriographed, telegraphed, announced etc along with a timeframe, potential targets etc. This was never going to be anything big. It may not happen at all now.

Originally posted by benrl

Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
I just read a report on the Security Council meeting today that supposedly Russia and China walked out of.

Obama had to tell cameron to back off a little as he was being too hawkish....and Obama didnt want it to sound like a UN approval was the be all and end all for an attack.


I do beleive the mass outcry of public opinion against it and the fact no evidence has been proven either way yet has led to the pause.


Then again, it could all be bluff....the silence before the storm.

You don't tell your enemy you are going to attack them, You just do...

Thats a very good point, could all be smoke and mirrors.

How do you figure? Latest news tonight shows serious backtracking.

Originally posted by Phoenix
Yesterday I read about a poll that had a whopping 9% agreeing with any attack on Syria, jeez I thought congess had low ratings.

The administration is putting the proverbial finger in the air and finding the wind blows against it, thank god.

edit on 28-8-2013 by Phoenix because: sp

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It'll probably be another chemical attack to ensure the deal rather than a terror threat.

I heard it on NPR earlier today, the commentator said, US public hasn't bought it into this yet. So may require additional chemical attacks.

Mr. Confusion returns yet again.

How long ago did our President announce the Red Line? What in the world have his military planners been doing? I would suspect that there is a folder on his desk containing the following: "Mr. President, we have identified five possible courses of action in the event Syria uses chemical weapons. Each one has a code word. Pick up the shiny red phone on your desk, say one of the code words, and everything will be taken care of."

By not doing anything, he destroys his credibility, and possibly the credibility of the United States. But if he does something, he's in much more trouble than that. First of all, the "bugs and gas" people suspect it wasn't nerve gas. One of the reasons for this is that someone is not "affected" by Sarin, they are killed by it. There aren't dozens of people recovering from it in makeshift hospitals, there are hundreds of dozens in graves.

There hasn't been any evidence produced that the Syrian government did it deliberately, and only partial evidence that it was done by the government at all.

And just how does he get around Congress? And what is he attempting to accomplish? Kill Assad? Overthrow the regime? We've already denied we want to do either of those. Are we just going to send in a few missiles, blow a few things up and leave? What the @#%& good does that do? We've even announced that we don't want to change the balance of force in the country.

I can't believe that he is considering sending in troops. Not even Obama is that crazy.

I wish I could remember the quote exactly, but when Bush was discussing Clinton's missile attacks, he said "I am not going to send a two million dollar missile to blow up a ten dollar tent, and have it end up in some camel's butt."

Our president has boxed himself with his thoughtless of script remark. What he is doing now is waiting, hoping that something will happen that will give him a way out of this mess. He's also hoping that his speech writers will have time to think of something he can say to cover himself.

Originally posted by EA006
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It'll probably be another chemical attack to ensure the deal rather than a terror threat.

It has to be something that directly angers Americans, The dead children images didn't sway the 60% against action.

Logically it will have to be worst than dead children and civilians.

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I agree with your post. To expand on it, this administration has been wanting to go to war with Syria for a while, but their "excuse" of an unproven chem attack by the "regime" has caused public outcry and now Obama is re-thinking to save face. We've had CIA and special forces training Al-Qaeda influenced "freedom fighters" on the ground doing the dirty work a while now. This could be halted for now, but we'll see for how long. The administration jumped in right off the bat before the inspectors could even do an investigation. Kerry wanted to rush in because he watched a youtube video. We can only speculate why this admin is so gung-ho against this Syrian "regime", but there are lot's of theories. This is a small victory I think, but it's not over.

The statement by Russia is slightly confusing considering they and China walked out of the U.N. meeting today. Not that I would expect Russia to get directly involved but it seems weird that they would announce it. It almost gives this admin another green light IMO. Confusing times no matter how you look at it tho.

Obama dealing with the likes of Al-qaeda may well be his downfall, and rightly so..
we can work with dumb but we cant fix stupid.

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well yeah... the British parliment were scheduled to meet this Friday



and then there's the fact that the UN Inspectors are investigating for another 6-10 days which puts the 'all clear' at friday of next week....

i would have hoped that the 0bama intellect would have figured that out.... an immediate response to Syria was not a doable hing...


but he did get the majority of world opinion on his side, even if his stance was ill advised...

so next time out ---0bama in one of his fits of hubris will not be dragging his feet at all... hope his followers are satisified






like i mentioned a day or two ago... (it would likely be more than 20 days till attack time...not hours or even 2 days)
the Sinai & the Suez canal are ripe for the picking... the USA can keep the sea-lane open as the Egypt interim government dumps all the Muslim Brotherhood thugs from having a political status in Egypt in the new election process


the Sinai is a good staging area for the personnel & equip,ent aboard the Mediterranian Fleet that was tasked with a cruise missile bimbardment of Syria only days earlier...
they have the added benefit of both punishing Egypt for going against USA plans for a MB rule in Egypt

and in acting as a buffer to the Gaza-Vs-Israel no-mans-land of the Sinai... a po;ice force umtil needed to rocket the next transgression by Syria & their future Sarin gas attacks (yeah right)

Originally posted by all2human
Obama dealing with the likes of Al-qaeda may well be his downfall, and rightly so..
we can work with dumb but we cant fix stupid.

Lets just apply hope and change to that thought along with many prayers that we can somehow someway elect mature leadership in this country that has all peoples interests as countryman at heart instead of banksters and privileged under-privileged folks and the ultra rich getting a pass on everything.

Either way this wont be happening in the next 5-7 days at least if not at all.

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interesting thought "...if at all"

I myself am having some thoughts that 0bama is just sliding with the Pupprt Masters' Orders to engage then escelate conflict in Syria at this moment...

0bama might be dragging his feet but letting his proud mouth demnd a pound-of-flesh of the Assad Regime for the act of having chemical weapons at all--- regardless of which side used the sarin on children and unarmed civilians


obama might have a different agenda from the elites that put him in office for their goals...

he might be giving time for the zealot Muslims to swing the tide of battle with the Assad troops


iy might also be thaat 0bama wasn't too hot for the Muslim Brotherhood running Egypt either... because he might perfer the Wahhibi sect of strict Islam better than western puppets the elites are busy installing as Democracies


all these 'leaders' sit at the table and exchange lies is how i see it

LOL YES THEY HAVE!


BREAKING CNN NEWS:
Fifth U.S. destroyer expected to arrive in eastern Mediterranean as U.S. prepares for possible strike on Syria.



Deployment of these ships/crew are millions a day.