Obama's Fall from Grace Sets a Scary Precedent for Future Presidents

The increasing lawlessness with which President Barack Obama has been acting in his second term is not going unnoticed.
In fact, in a strong rebuke last week to the unilateral actions being taken by the Obama administration, a federal appeals court came down hard on the administration’s Nuclear Regulatory Commission by ruling that delaying a decision on a proposed nuclear waste storage facility was in violation of federal law. In the majority opinion, the judges declared that the administration was “simply flouting the law,” and that President Obama “may not decline to follow a statute or prohibition simply because of policy objections.”


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Under this administration we have seen abuses of power unlike anything seen before. The President has taken using Executive Orders to a new level and drags his feet on issues he opposes. He has manipulated and obfuscated more than any of his predecessors setting a new standard for the deplorable behavior which he himself had promised to end during his campaign.

President Obama’s fall from grace as the candidate elected to rein in executive power in 2008 is more than tragic – it sets scary new precedents for the behavior of future presidents from either party.

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Obama has in fact taken parts of his own Affordable Care Act (ACA) and selectively enforced the portions he found most beneficial while delaying other parts of "Obamacare" to be the problem of the next administration and future elected leaders.

The "Hope" and "Change" has all been a farce to get this President elected so he could systematically destroy our national pride and create a climate of discontent. Obama has done more to damage the office of the POTUS than any previous President. He has consistently attacked our Constitution and pitted people against each other. In my opinion he is the worst President in history.

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It is funny how in the second term of every President we hear the same things. And then by the next guy we forget it all and move on to making the same claims about him. Anoyone who thnks Obama is having anything beyond an average second term has no grasp of American History.

Originally posted by MrSpad
It is funny how in the second term of every President we hear the same things. And then by the next guy we forget it all and move on to making the same claims about him. Anoyone who thnks Obama is having anything beyond an average second term has no grasp of American History.

I guess we're all woefully challenged in a basic grasp of American History. Oh, you'll want to get some professional help for a couple instructors I've studied with, inside the Departments here that deal directly with the material.

They seem to have no grasp of American history...either.

Then again? Some folks may just go FAR out of their way to backstop for this President ...to the point where the efforts come off as outright silly at times.

Nothing unusual? Geeze..... That falls short of basic logic.

Even DEMS don't generally try that tack anymore (those who aren't badmouthing this man themselves by now and many are, at all levels)

Nothing to see here tho....Pay no attention to the skyline of Rome, burning in the distance. It's supposed to do that. Really!

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I have a firm grip on American history, both recent and distant, and cannot recall any president breaking so many laws, usurping the Constitution so regularly, and deceiving not only the American people, but our allies as well.

Whereas it is true that a president's popularity has a tendency to drop at this point in their second term, none has ever been embroiled in so many legitimate scandals. Had this administration been a Republican one, not only would impeachment proceedings have already taken place, there would be trials for actual crimes. Any denial of that fact is disingenuous at best and ignorant at worst.

Originally posted by MrSpad
It is funny how in the second term of every President we hear the same things. And then by the next guy we forget it all and move on to making the same claims about him. Anoyone who thnks Obama is having anything beyond an average second term has no grasp of American History.

An 'average' second term? Really? Are you being obtuse or are you really this ignorant?

Obama has consistently abused his power more than any other President in history.

The facts are overwhelming.

Ahh.. gotta be a natural trend.....

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The media/pundits created an image of Obama that he did nothing to dispell.

He was a junior senator from Illinois who had an acedemic background and did some community organizing.

Nothing in his resume suggested that he had leadership qualities. Nothing he has done illustrates those qualities even more.

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Why, we;ve come to a point where leadership experience is an evil and horrible thing to stomp and hate and call names while you scream down anyone who disagrees.

If they were successful in big business? EVIL! They MUST be made to suffer and never see power. Anywhere.

If they were a successful Governor? EVIL! (if the wrong party of course) and MUST be run out of politics by destruction without limit or mercy. Always!

If they were a successful small business, they didn't make that themselves..hence, no leadership ability gained. If they DID make it themselves? Any fool can see they HAD to have done it by destroying and abusing little people along the way. After all, no success on a personal level can ever be had without harm being inflicted upon others!

^^^ This is the absolute Dogma of a fair % of the active political body in this nation. When everyone we're suppose to hate and wish death upon is removed? Who is left but career politicians, screw ups and community organizers? (Some may question whether those are even 3 separate categories at all! )

Originally posted by MrSpad
It is funny how in the second term of every President we hear the same things. And then by the next guy we forget it all and move on to making the same claims about him. Anoyone who thnks Obama is having anything beyond an average second term has no grasp of American History.

No grasp of American history?

Since the 22nd amendment imposed term limits in 1951, only 4 presidents have been elected to serve 2 terms, and served them.

Eisenhower, Reagan, Clinton, Bush.

the second term of every President we hear the same things.

Anoyone who thnks Obama is having anything beyond an average second term has no grasp of American History.

You cast quite a large net in the giant pool of 4 people.

The real precedent being set is that a President can act outside of the law, it then be recognized by a federal court, and yet NOTHING is done about it.

Originally posted by kozmo
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I have a firm grip on American history, both recent and distant, and cannot recall any president breaking so many laws, usurping the Constitution so regularly, and deceiving not only the American people, but our allies as well.

Whereas it is true that a president's popularity has a tendency to drop at this point in their second term, none has ever been embroiled in so many legitimate scandals. Had this administration been a Republican one, not only would impeachment proceedings have already taken place, there would be trials for actual crimes. Any denial of that fact is disingenuous at best and ignorant at worst.

Clearly you must have been asleep during the last President's two terms.

Obama's path was paved quite easily for him by the last 100 years worth of presidents. This is not by accident, but by DESIGN.

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I was wide awake and saw the coup right before my eyes. Obama has elevated criminality in the White House to a whole new level!

Originally posted by MrSpad
And then by the next guy we forget it all and move on to making the same claims about him.

Except, of course, when it comes to George W. Bush; this President and his followers have made a career out of blaming Bush and Cheney for all that ails the country now, and absolving Obama of all possible sin completely, and once blaming Bush started to wear thin, it was all the fault of the Republicans in Congress.

I agree with the OP that Obama is, without a doubt, THE worst President in the history of this country.

For the first half of his Presidency to date, he and his pals in Congress, had complete control of both houses, and yet everything is still the fault of the Republicans, or Bush.

He takes no blame for his poor decisions, takes credit where it is not due him, and disregards the voice of the People, unless of course, the voice of the People happens to agree with his ideology, which, the vast majority of the time, it does not.

He is the 'Welfare' President, and he's as much in bed with the lobbyists as any President before him, yet he claims he's above that.

Barack Obama is the very definition of a corrupt, self-deifying, elitist, race-baiting, con-man, and I hope that America, the America the we know and love, can outlive his legacy.

Obama is a Modern day Nero


Hitler also ran on Hope and Change

Originally posted by Metallicus
Obama has in fact taken parts of his own Affordable Care Act (ACA) and selectively enforced the portions he found most beneficial while delaying other parts of "Obamacare" to be the problem of the next administration and future elected leaders.

Just to clear up one fact here as I sparcely work with ACA as a manager for an IRS group. IRS leadership has been asking for help in the set up of this act as it is the IRS's responsibility to control this. We simply don't have the man power or money (for continuing to hire more employees and train them) to have every component of this act up at once. President Obama has only realized that it simply cannot be done and has order certain aspects (which we are currently working on and the applications will soon be tested) to become effective as of Jan 2014.

We're under a lot of pressure, and it's always better to under promise and over deliver than to over promise and under deliver. Especially with the other news we've been having. Yes President Obama did pick some parts to mandate. But I know for fact that it was also discussed as to what the IRS can actually promise with the limited time that we have before processing taxes next Feb.

I remember thinking back in 2008 that Obama's whole election platform seemed to be fluff and no substance. I couldn't get anyone tell me much more about it other than "Hope and Change" and what I read about showed about the same. But I held my judgment (didn't vote for him though, can't vote for something that has no substance). I saw him get elected and decided to give him a chance. Then things started to happen that made it harder and harder to hold that opinion (like receiving a Nobel Peace Prize without actually having done anything yet). Now 5 years later I look back and see that this is the current state of the country is the result of the people placing their faith in a man who held no substance, but elected him anyways.

Originally posted by beezzer
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The media/pundits created an image of Obama that he did nothing to dispell.

He was a junior senator from Illinois who had an acedemic background and did some community organizing.

Nothing in his resume suggested that he had leadership qualities. Nothing he has done illustrates those qualities even more.

The server was too busy Beez, but I would wait a long while to properly respond.
We've both/all seen him function without a teleprompter.. so much for originality.
Ultimately-- I'd personally rather have a large consortium of sick minds planning my
lack of a future than someone who can't ad-lib: it'll probably be quick and merciful.

In your words, and in those paraphrased from that grumpy legal genius now absent,
J.P.Z. I'll crank it a notch, even though I almost bought the progressive kool aid once.
"Nobody can screw up this comprehensively without help. Where in your gear is
the demon stashed, private? Show me now!" Regrettably Barry's demon is possibly
to debark and show up for the Labor Day cookout. I'm betting 25% for this time.
ps
[MAYbe a little film of moly lube on the receiver will keep the tarnish off when the
green clouds come through..] Time to go fill up a couple dozen more milk jugs...

Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
The real precedent being set is that a President can act outside of the law, it then be recognized by a federal court, and yet NOTHING is done about it.

edit on 26-8-2013 by OptimusSubprime because: (no reason given)

Thank you optimus, and with that short sentence you have defined the innate
inability for mature corruption to police itself. All three branches of what we once
called government has been co-opted by the Money Monsters.

I have to disagree here.

Fall from grace ?

He had to have some first.

Yes another obama is the anti christ thread, i love it, so no other americain president has done anything close to the evil emperor obama, too funny, plz go to your closest library, grab a book on american history and learn something new, fox or cnn dont really count as facts, its mainly sci fi and drama.

Oh and i know you guys dont care but the rest of the world and more than half of americains dont seem to hate on obama.

Oh and when you haters figure out obumer is a pupet that works for both sides might be easier to get the change every president has offered when running for the job.