What is considered "spiritual"?

Originally posted by NiNjABackflip


Do you concern yourself with "nothing" in your day to day life?

When nothing is discovered there is nothing left to concern oneself with.
Peace at last.

reply to post by Itisnowagain

To you 'nothing' is a concept.
Is there any 'thing' that is not a concept?

If you're saying in a strange way that we think and talk about things, then yes, "things" is a concept. I'm still not sure what you're getting at.

reply to post by Itisnowagain

When nothing is discovered there is nothing left to concern oneself with.
Peace at last.

Sounds like death to me, or at least a vegetative state.

reply to post by filledcup

the ones on the thread and others who cant perceive what ur trying to tell them.

It's sad that you had to point that out to Itsnowagain. Too much semantics will turn your brain to mush.

I can only assume that Itsnowagain believes that everything that he/she doesn't understand is placed in the "nothing is something" that I just don't understand and can't explain category, therefore, placing spirituality into that same category.

Originally posted by NiNjABackflip
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

When nothing is discovered there is nothing left to concern oneself with.
Peace at last.

Sounds like death to me, or at least a vegetative state.

To a 'me' it would do!

A 'me' is a believed in 'thing' living in a world of other 'things'.

Really though there are no things - there is just this (which cannot be named and is flowing - life).

Originally posted by NiNjABackflip
reply to post by filledcup

 

Do you concern yourself with "nothing" in your day to day life? Why are you doing it now?

it is all about nothing.

nothing is the center. nothing is everything. nothing is balance. there is no 1 without there first being zero. there is no 0 without there coming to be 1. a zero.. is 1 zeros..

how then is nothing counted without there being a 1?

nothing is the place where the spirit resides. it is made of nothing.. to the regular and untrained eye. but is made of substance to the trained eye.

indeed i concern myself with nothing day and night. nothing is home. nothing is peace, tranquility, the eye of the storm where equilibrium exists. i should never forget nothing. it is so very important. nothing is timelessness as the eternal spirit. without beginning and without end. it is nothing..

but as i said before.. it is not nothing

Originally posted by NiNjABackflip
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

When nothing is discovered there is nothing left to concern oneself with.
Peace at last.

Sounds like death to me, or at least a vegetative state.

close...

a meditative state.. same thing.

reply to post by Itisnowagain

To a 'me' it would do!

A 'me' is a believed in 'thing' living in a world of other 'things'.

Really though there are no things - there is just this (which cannot be named and is flowing - life).

Well in reality we also have language, which uses "things". So I don't think that is entirely true.

reply to post by filledcup


It is the death of the 'me' - the individual - the divided one.
Who would want that? Absolutely no one.

reply to post by filledcup

nothing is the place where the spirit resides. it is made of nothing.. to the regular and untrained eye. but is made of substance to the trained eye.

I agree there is no spirit, and that the spirit resides no where as a nothing.

reply to post by Itisnowagain

there is just this (which cannot be named and is flowing - life).

"this" is a thing.

this |T͟His|
pronoun ( pl. these |T͟Hēz| )
1 used to identify a specific person or thing close at hand or being indicated or experienced: is this your bag? | he soon knew that this was not the place for him.
• used to introduce someone or something: this is the captain speaking | listen to this.
• referring to the nearer of two things close to the speaker (the other, if specified, being identified by “that”): this is different from that.
2 referring to a specific thing or situation just mentioned: the company was transformed, and Ward had played a vital role in bringing this about.

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by filledcup

 

It is the death of the 'me' - the individual - the divided one.
Who would want that? Absolutely no one.

the death of the seen, but not the unseen. and all should want that and seek it. else they will never know in this life the truth and magnificence of the Supreme Creator.

seek to enter the state of nothingness they should.
a meditative state of death is in the realization of the force.

may the force be with you. LOL

i love nothing.

Originally posted by NiNjABackflip
reply to post by filledcup

 

nothing is the place where the spirit resides. it is made of nothing.. to the regular and untrained eye. but is made of substance to the trained eye.

I agree there is no spirit, and that the spirit resides no where as a nothing.

and as a result.. it exists everywhere.. as every thing.

it is One.. timeless and eternal.. and not divided into nothing and something.

Originally posted by NiNjABackflip
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

there is just this (which cannot be named and is flowing - life).

"this" is a thing.

This moment - existence - what this is cannot be named.
Is now a 'thing'?

reply to post by filledcup

and as a result.. it exists everywhere.. as every thing.

Only if one likes to speak in contradictions.

reply to post by Itisnowagain

This moment - existence - what this is cannot be named.
Is now a 'thing'?

Yes. As you paradoxically just named this that cannot be named.

Originally posted by NiNjABackflip
reply to post by filledcup

 

and as a result.. it exists everywhere.. as every thing.

Only if one likes to speak in contradictions.

contradiction hmm?

that is like saying a thing cannot have a front and a back at the same time.

it all depends on the perspective ur looking at it. it depends on where ur standing.. front or back. but if u walk round the back u will finally see the whole picture. the thing u ar observing is made up of both front and back.. and it is One. One thing and not two.

Originally posted by filledcup

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by filledcup

 

It is the death of the 'me' - the individual - the divided one.
Who would want that? Absolutely no one.

the death of the seen, but not the unseen. and all should want that and seek it. else they will never know in this life the truth and magnificence of the Supreme Creator.

It is not the death of the seen. Empty perception is filled with the seen. The kingdom is revealed
When one is empty of time, what is seen is nothing (is empty of meaning) but it is known to be all there is.
It is unconditional love arising.

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by filledcup

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by filledcup

 

It is the death of the 'me' - the individual - the divided one.
Who would want that? Absolutely no one.

the death of the seen, but not the unseen. and all should want that and seek it. else they will never know in this life the truth and magnificence of the Supreme Creator.

It is not the death of the seen. Empty perception is filled with the seen. The kingdom is revealed
When one is empty of time, what is seen is nothing (is empty of meaning) but it is known to be all there is.
It is unconditional love arising.

indeed the seen is not dead, because it rises again after having died.

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reply to post by filledcup


The law of noncontradiction states that something cannot be something other than what it is. It is not about naming different facets of one thing.