What if the conspiracy theories are true?

What if...
1) It is proven through lawsuits and other evidence that 9/11 was indeed an inside job?
2) That corruption in our government is so widespread that this country is in deep deep trouble?
3) That the election was indeed a widespread, orchestrated fraud?
4) That the Afgan/Iraq wars were indeed based on false premises for the corporate globalists to control oil?

I want to know what all you die hard conservatives that are believing what the government is telling you are going to say. Will you appologize? How will you feel? Will you ever trust the government again? Will you change parties? Will you get behind the reinstatement of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights, and renounce the Patriot Acts?

I am just curious, because I think you have it coming, IMO.

MOD EDIT: Decapped Title.

[edit on 11-11-2004 by RANT]

Its my opinion that no body will own up to being a Republican one year from now.

Unseen forces.

Bush & Cheney could have been impeached in April 2004.

It did not happen.

Bush on domestic and foreign policy management issues has the worst track record of any President in US history.

But it appears to Joe Public that his administration has been re-elected.

Sheep cower.

TrueAmericans act.

It's not the 60s any more, but why IS it so different? The new breed of McCarthyism doesn't net as many dissidents or black lists. What is it that people fear?

The biggest fear of all is the reign of apathy.

Well, regardless of party, I suppose integrity, truthfullness, and ruling by will of majority are things that are just pipe dreams on this planet. In fact, I wonder if anywhere on this planet those things exist in ANY government.

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
What if...
1) It is proven through lawsuits and other evidence that 9/11 was indeed an inside job?
2) That corruption in our government is so widespread that this country is in deep deep trouble?
3) That the election was indeed a widespread, orchestrated fraud?
4) That the Afgan/Iraq wars were indeed based on false premises for the corporate globalists to control oil?

I want to know what all you die hard conservatives that are believing what the government is telling you are going to say. Will you appologize? How will you feel? Will you ever trust the government again? Will you change parties? Will you get behind the reinstatement of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights, and renounce the Patriot Acts?

I am just curious, because I think you have it coming, IMO.

GOOD thread dude!
I think that it's much deeper than that! I really think that a lot of things in the world ARE inside jobs, I'm not american but I've searched A LOT on all that you said and my feeling, as a neutral person, there is a lot going on behind the curtains

Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thank you, Amelia. Nice Avatar, btw. Interesting that still no one has answered the actual questions I have asked. I really want to know what these people will say, as with every day that passes, all this is becoming more and more evident. You really think Tenet and Ashcroft resigned due to personal reasons? Not me. I think the heat in the kitchen is getting a little too hot for the cooks.

Okay they will just keep on going like nothing happened, while Fox News, CNN, and all the other networks say things like "it's unfortunate, however...."

All of this stuff is already so well known and that is what you get. Presumably their lock down control of the media is so tight, that it will be pushed to the back pages. Meanwhile and courts involved will suddenly have judges and juries drinking Guyana cool aid, and Bill O'Reilley will tell you it is because they are a bunch of liberal crybabies.

Now go back to your Superbowl, and don't even think about anything!

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Well, regardless of party, I suppose integrity, truthfullness, and ruling by will of majority are things that are just pipe dreams on this planet. In fact, I wonder if anywhere on this planet those things exist in ANY government.

No, they don't exist. They never have, even with our vaunted Founding Fathers. I still find it amazing that people are just now learning that human nature itself is greedy, immoral, selfish, and petty. A quick glance at human history is enough to prove this point. Most of us try to fight it. We can be, and do good, but these bad qualities are survival instincts, without which we wouldn't be the pre-eminent life form on the planet. The powerful dominating and taking advantage of the weak is the way the universe works, at least everywhere that we have been able to look. This is the law of nature and it isn't nice and it isn't fair, but that is the way it is for anyone confined to this physical reality. The Law of Nature is the rule. The fact that some don't like or choose not to accept it doen't change the fact that they have to live (and die) by it in the end.

The really sad part is, bitching about it isn't going to change the nature of power one bit, but it can certainly change how you let the power dynamic effect you. Worrying about things you don't have the power to change accomplishes nothing. If that isn't good enough for you, then you can join with most everyone else and seek more power. It's what you are instinctually driven to do.

So then do you really believe that when the founding fathers sat down for weeks to develop a truely fair system of government, with real internal checks and balances, they implemented deceptive things in the Constitution and Bill of Rights? THAT's where I draw the line. No. They didn't. They tried their damnest to come up with the best way possible to govern. And personally, I think they did a damn fine job. It's not the system they came up with that is at fault. As you say, it is the PEOPLE who have been elected showing all those things you mention that has caused the deviations which are so far from the original intentions of the governmental design. We really need to "revert back to saved".

Originally posted by Ambient Sound
... Worrying about things you don't have the power to change accomplishes nothing. ...

Well, I feel the power to change will come through critical mass eventually. Every last one of us is a conduit to critical mass. But just holing up and saying nothing, or feeling that you can't affect anything is not helping at all. I believe WE can achieve changes over time, but you've GOT to talk about it first. And spread what you believe to be truth after you have examined the evidence for yourself.

All I can SAY to help you trueamerican is that :

-Don't worry about the politics, politics in every important country is corrupted!!!!! If you lose energies in politics, 'THEY' win...just ignore it! They want YOU to worry about them...any parti or any countries

-Start to wonder about DEEPER thing than that! You know life is short, why sould we be frustrated about some old guys who wants to control us! We don't even know them personnaly. They are in the government for Money, oil, power, and most of all enslave us (work, pay bills, laws, religions!) they want you to care about them!

-Ask yourself: Why AM I here on earth today, what do I have to learn in my everyday life? What is the purpose of life itself! Maybe u will die tomorrow! Who knows...so I personnaly start living my own life with people I love....And also live my spirituality! You are here on earth dude! for a short time dude! What ARE you?????? Ever wonder THOSE IMPORTANT question! By the way, don't search in the bible, the bible is another way to control masses, it's the book that is the more saled in the world, if you beleive a little bit in corruption, don't you think this book is corrupted!

Love
Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Here is a link for you to give you some new meaning to life and stop worrying about government...

www.users.bigpond.com...

Hi Amelia, well I do wonder about life and things such as this quite a bit! In fact, I just started the thread below, and have gotten some interesting responses. Please post yours if you haven't done so already. If nothing else, you might find it an interesting read:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Regards,
TA

No TA,

The truth is 51% of America took the red pill, they don't want to know. Lahey and Jenkins wrote christian fiction about people being duped by world powers and false religion, then the people choose a loyalty mark or death. What we've seen is people taking loyalty "Oaths" at bush rallies like you have to belong to the club. The religious right using religion to front their political agenda and only a few religious leaders taking offense to it. The next thing that swarms the scientific community is that human chip implants are being approved. They are going to sell this and people will buy it like a sale on "Play Stations(tm)".

TrueAmerican
1) It is proven through lawsuits and other evidence that 9/11 was indeed an inside job?
2) That corruption in our government is so widespread that this country is in deep deep trouble?
3) That the election was indeed a widespread, orchestrated fraud?
4) That the Afgan/Iraq wars were indeed based on false premises for the corporate globalists to control oil?

1- It's highly probable the pres knew planes were going down on 911, but not towers or the pentagon.
2- I wonder how many companies and foriegn investors are standing on the cork.
3- We will never know all the facts, Bev Harris and others are looking, but human decision was converted to political derision in about 30 states who knows.
4- Agree!
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"You can't handle the truth."

I thought that was pretty good.

Originally posted by plutonian
"You can't handle the truth."

I thought that was pretty good.

SO yes...we all know that everything is a big plan and "they" the ELITE, laugh at us so hard!

Yes, some took the red pill, they can't handle the truth and it's sad, they don't even want to know the truth, that will crap all their beleifs

So, I think we all agree, we are NOT IGNORANT...we are in the right way!

LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!KEEP FAITH
Ameliaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx