Are atheists mentally ill? The Impact of Religious Practice on Social Stability

reply to post by Pistoche


Yes because you were born without the ability to feel it. You feel materialism and lack the ability to feel the spiritual or you would not make such an immature unwise statement. I am sorry for what society has done to you and so many others, its so sad...

Nice bait thread.

Accuse atheists of being defective instead of saying that maybe they were raised secularly and lack exposure to religion and then get back to Benny Hinn throw invisible chi whammies at retired people while getting money for his BMW while quietly tucking scriptures away that say the hireling careth not for the sheep.

Mentally ill? naa...well, maybe if said atheist didn't have the ability to believe in stuff.
I have the ability, and even the desire, I just don't.
My brain wants lots of things. if left up to to my core desires, I would eat sugar until I weighed 4300lbs, drink myself stupid, etc. I have my logic and reason center that has overcome my base desires and instinct...bring it into control.

As far as the health benefits of having faith. That I can agree with. Typically a atheist tends to worry a bit more....no magic space ghost gonna come in and save the day, so when things bigger than self happen, a atheist may spend a bit more time trying to think their way out of something. Worry does cause stress on the body.
But end of the day, you have to be honest with yourself. I am not sure if you can fake faith (to yourself..you can totally pull the wool over others, but to yourself, if you have no faith, your going to worry).

I at times do envy those whom believe in some religion. Keep in mind though, I also envy children around Christmas time..how magical their world is compared to mine. I wouldn't want to revert back mind you, I know there is no Santa, and although I don't know if there are any deities, I am pretty close to sure no earth religion is even remotely close to any deity identification...some interesting mythos, but not my cup of tea.
If I would join a religion strictly for the lore and coolness of the stories, then it would have to be perhaps the old celtic religion, or ancient greek.

Incidentally I did scan the OPs article, and there was a lot of claims. I tried to check some of the claims and came up empty, so I am not sure about the authenticity of the claims presented in the article, but that's beside the point. I know the hard wired god part of the brain is accurate enough, and generally speaking its healthier to believe..so won't do much back research into it. The author is a bit of a moron.

the information in this thread
is not insulting atheists,
it is just describing them.

and describing the benefits
of believing in God.

Its not the A's that are delluded but those that have beliefs in religion doctrine nonsense!!
A's are the hope for mankind not the crutch mobs!

Originally posted by RP2SticksOfDynamite

Its not the A's that are delluded but those that have beliefs in religion doctrine nonsense!!
A's are the hope for mankind not the crutch mobs!

How do you condone rape of any kind as the Old Testament allows?

Athiests for the win.


See a church burn it down. Beat the inhabitants.

No survivors.

Rape is okay, their victims are capable of murder, but murder is wrong.

Give me a break.

Rape is a felony violation of law. Christians should be shot on site. No judge. No jury.

Originally posted by CatherineWheel

Originally posted by RP2SticksOfDynamite

Its not the A's that are delluded but those that have beliefs in religion doctrine nonsense!!
A's are the hope for mankind not the crutch mobs!

How do you condone rape of any kind as the Old Testament allows?

Athiests for the win.


See a church burn it down. Beat the inhabitants.

No survivors.

Rape is okay, their victims are capable of murder, but murder is wrong.

Give me a break.

Rape is a felony violation of law. Christians should be shot on site. No judge. No jury.

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edit on 19-8-2013 by CatherineWheel because: (no reason given)

Whats the above which is usually a realm of the religious groups go to do with be an A and not believing in fantasy island contradictory tosh!!

reply to post by RP2SticksOfDynamite


That's the right on man. You said it all.

The question is are Christians mentally ill. They promote rape and condemn murder which is often the end result of rape.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


Its all comes across as staged, In my opinion we all need to get away from the "be a good little boy" or "be a good little girl" and dont put thumbtacks on grandads toilet seat upbringing.

people must think for themselves, stop relying on your government to make your decisions for you, dont be governed by religions, governments, and / or anyone else... use your own brain to make your own decisions...

reply to post by CatherineWheel


Please explain to me how
when where Christians condone rape.

reply to post by spirited75


Erm, the Bible, both old and new testaments, including your Jesus, supports slavery. Female slaves had to submit their bodies, one way or another, to their masters.

Not to mention that women were sold in marriages into, prearranged in business deals brokered by their fathers.

Originally posted by Pistoche
You believe in an invisible dude with magical powers and you're calling us mentally ill?

^ This

Originally posted by spirited75
the information in this thread
is not insulting atheists,
it is just describing them.

and describing the benefits
of believing in God.

Which god?

The god who couldn't keep his kingdom together and had one third of it's occupants rebel? The god who sent those rebellious angels to earth, where he proceeded to put his divine creation, mankind?

The god who told his people to go out and kill, pillage, rape and plunder the followers of other gods?

The god who required animal sacrifices to atone for his creation's imperfections?

The god who sacrificed himself to himself to save us from his disdain of us?

That god?

Or maybe you meant Zeus, or Odin, or Baal, or Osirus, or Ra?

It is my humble opinion that atheists lack the full understanding of the universe around them. Science itself is coming more and more to terms with the knowledge that the universe has a conscience behind it. They don't understand God but they understand the laws of math and see the perfection so precise that under any chaos scenario we should not exist. The universe should always be unstable, but it is not.

So it would be safe to accept that atheists come up lacking in the end.

Originally posted by Fromabove
It is my humble opinion that atheists lack the full understanding of the universe around them. Science itself is coming more and more to terms with the knowledge that the universe has a conscience behind it. They don't understand God but they understand the laws of math and see the perfection so precise that under any chaos scenario we should not exist. The universe should always be unstable, but it is not.

So it would be safe to accept that atheists come up lacking in the end.

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Your opinion only goes to show how blind and niaive believers are!! And by the way nobody fully understands the universe and least of all delluded crutch needy god shop folk who clearly lack common sense!!!!

Originally posted by RP2SticksOfDynamite

Originally posted by Fromabove
It is my humble opinion that atheists lack the full understanding of the universe around them. Science itself is coming more and more to terms with the knowledge that the universe has a conscience behind it. They don't understand God but they understand the laws of math and see the perfection so precise that under any chaos scenario we should not exist. The universe should always be unstable, but it is not.

So it would be safe to accept that atheists come up lacking in the end.

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Your opinion only goes to show how blind and niaive believers are!! And by the way nobody fully understands the universe and least of all delluded crutch needy god shop folk who clearly lack common sense!!!!

My oh my, I really hit a nerve. Why is it that atheists have to get right down to the name calling. Can't you at the very least give something on a scientific note in defense of your (uh) argument? The fact that science is coming around to a new way of thinking on the universe is not my idea but there's. You really need to delve into it a little more to know this.

This is why I believe atheists come up short and wanting.

Originally posted by Fromabove

Originally posted by RP2SticksOfDynamite

Originally posted by Fromabove
It is my humble opinion that atheists lack the full understanding of the universe around them. Science itself is coming more and more to terms with the knowledge that the universe has a conscience behind it. They don't understand God but they understand the laws of math and see the perfection so precise that under any chaos scenario we should not exist. The universe should always be unstable, but it is not.

So it would be safe to accept that atheists come up lacking in the end.

edit on 19-8-2013 by Fromabove because: (no reason given)

Your opinion only goes to show how blind and niaive believers are!! And by the way nobody fully understands the universe and least of all delluded crutch needy god shop folk who clearly lack common sense!!!!

My oh my, I really hit a nerve. Why is it that atheists have to get right down to the name calling. Can't you at the very least give something on a scientific note in defense of your (uh) argument? The fact that science is coming around to a new way of thinking on the universe is not my idea but there's. You really need to delve into it a little more to know this.

This is why I believe atheists come up short and wanting.

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No names have been called only stated facts about the behaviour and beliefs of God people!!!

Are you sure that its not the other way round! Take the Vaticans recent position!

What you believe dont mean jack! A's dont need crutches or a hope to hang on to for them to be able to get through life!

Lacking! take a good look in the mirror! See the who's really lacking!!

Originally posted by spirited75
reply to post by tallcool1

 

Jesus mentions hell in his
speeches more often than he mentions heaven.

Actually, Jesus may have mentioned "the grave" or "Gehenna" when He spoke - not some fictional damnation in hell. The religious leaders who "interpreted" the original Hebrew and Greek gospels took the Hebrew word "sheol" and the Greek word "hades" - both of which should be more accurately translated as "grave" or "pit" and turned them into the fictional, fiery "hell".

Another deliberate mistranslation is from the Greek word "gehenna" which is actually a place called the Valley of Hinnom where the Jews would throw their garbage to be burned. The place was kept burning by the addition of sulpher and other flammables. Traditionally, murderers and other executed criminals who were deemed "unworthy" of a proper burial had their bodies thrown into Gehenna after they were executed where they would "burn eternally". This is what was referenced when someone was "deserving of Gehenna". Other sources claim that Gehenna was where the Ba'al worshippers would sacrifice their children in the fires...but there's no real evidence that they actually sacrificed their children there or anywhere else.

The early church leaders invented hell in order to get more people (and more importantly their money) into the church where they could be scared into following the religious dogma of the church. Not to mention that eternal punishment in fire does not in my opinion fit the character of an all loving Father God.

Originally posted by CatherineWheel
The question is are Christians mentally ill. They promote rape and condemn murder which is often the end result of rape.

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I'm a Christian. I don't promote rape or murder. I'm even against the death penalty and all of these senseless wars.

Personally, I look at the old testament more as a somewhat inspired history of Israel instead of the absolute word of God. I think that they thought everything was from God. If they won a war, God was with them. If they were overrun and enslaved, God was angry with them. If an enemy was killed in an accident, it was God's justice...etc.

I can understand why you have these feelings toward Christians specifically and religion in general - I really can. But I would also like for you to be aware that there are a few of us Christians who can see through the dogma of the churches and can see where some of the Bible doesn't seem to make sense and we realize that the Bible as a whole was originally written by men and women who wrote through the lens of their own beliefs and prejudices and called it the word of God - and then when all of these writings were assembled into their current form at Nicaea with an agenda of men who desired power...

Jesus tried to explain that the basis of a relationship with God is love. Love of all people, whether they are friend or foe - love them all equally and serve them. As I said previously, when Jesus went all medieval it was against the church leaders of His day - NOT the "sinners". A Christian is called to serve not condemn. When you sit there in church with a superiority complex and feel happy about your belief that sinners are going to burn in "hell" - you are in no way serving our Lord. You are serving your own un-Christian prejudice.