Starlike object zig-zagging in the night sky

reply to post by TellEmRye


I saw something quite similar about 3 or 4 months ago, can't be sure of the exact date.

And no pictures, before someone asks.

Was out in the back garden on a dark, starry night as i usually do and looking up at the stars to the North, North -East direction.

I saw one very small star like object moving quite rapidly in a straight line...ahha classic satellite i thought, and was musing over the technology that went into making it and launching it into orbit, when my eye caught another object that looked exactly the same as the first one.

But the 2nd 'small white star like object' or as i thought then, another satellite, was moving in as straight a line and at the same speed as the 1st one, but they were on what looked like a collision course!

They were moving right towards each other and i was busy thinking that one must be in a miles higher orbit than the other, and they would not hit each other..then i was wondering if they would actually hit or not...but then something amazing happened.

The two objects rapidly approached one another, then stopped completely for around a half to one second, then as though they were performing some elaborate choreograph, at exactly the same instant, one swung out in a wide arc / semi circle while the other did the same thing at the same instant, but in the opposite direction at the same rapid speed as the other, both objects traversed a perfect semi-circle.

When the objects were each in the position the other had just occupied before starting the semi-circle, they both carried on the original trajectory at the same speed, and at the same time.

The whole thing from first seeing the movement of the first object to seeing them disapear behind rooftops, was only about 10 - 15 seconds.

They muct have been REALLY moving.

I checked online to see if this kind of thing is a normal thing for sats, but it wasn't. They do have manouvering thrusters, but none move like the things i saw.

It was porbably one of the weirdest things i've ever seen in the sky.

ETA: Oops forgot to say, i live about 60 miles from you in South Kent (used to live in S. London Myself Croydon born and bred), so looking in the direction i saw the objects they were probably over or near London.

Hello there I'm new to this, I feel the need to reply because I have witnessed this phenomenon on several occasions most recently last night. Im alone when I spot this usally but last night my wife points at it, and says what the hell is that kinda paniced and scared. I look up and I said ha ha you see it too so I'm not crazy huh, Because I was starting to wonder myself and I say that's what I'm talking about! Try explaining that. Investigations lead here. When I call em wandering stars because to me they look lost and it appears like a star, although I don't believe it is one. Its movements Fluid like Its life not machine either. I haven't found scientific explanation I'll believe. I want to say I see em too.

reply to post by Archedduck


They probably look like 'life' because that's how they are controlled.

My hypothesis is that the operators (for want of a better term) of these craft connect with the machines on a biological level, a kind of amalgamation of the mind and machine, which allows the craft to be used as an extension of the operators consciousness...naturally and instinctively, like your brain moves your arm to scratch your nose...it's done almost without thinking...this is how i reckon these craft are controlled, and why they appear to be almost alive.

It's not far fetched at all, if that's what most readers are thinking...we have early versions of this control technology right now in the public arena, and as for the military? They have much better versions already in play.

This technology we're developing today, would be indistinguishable from the mind-machine interface and control systems i've just hypothesised about above, in as little as 30 years.

Imagine the levels of integration achievable if we had started developing this technology a 100 years ago or more?

Now imagine what a hypothetical ET might be able to do with it's craft if their research is only 100 years ahead of our own?

Look in the sky, and you'll quite likely see it.

Just to weigh in and say yes, I've seen this, definitely once and possibly twice, about 50-60 miles outside of London. It remains to be the most puzzling UFO sighting I've had. It started with up and down or the "floating feather" motion and then went into circular motions. Dancing stars are what some people call these, so you're not alone in it, thanks for reporting it, great to see it's happening in the (fairly) local vicinity still!!

And I'd just like to add, a respectable friend saw a glowing blue triangular shaped object which he was able to get fairly close to in a forest (whilst taking a shortcut during his days as a postman) - as he noticed some hyroglyphics on it, it then "zig zagged" away from near ground level way up into the sky, so possibly the same object? He's exactly the kind of guy you could hope to have a sighting because he's extremely rationale, friendly and positive, he deserved to see it!

S&F

reply to post by TellEmRye


Congratulations on your sighting, this will change your life forever. From the information provided you have experienced a genuine ufo orb, the dancing about bit you mention describes them perfectly.

Can you answer a question please. Were you in a very positive state of mind just prior to the experience?

Ufoorbhunter

They are probably trying to burn some excess fuel out of something so it can be brought back into the atmosphere for a controlled burn up. Possibly an old satellite or some sort of government project. They usually steer these things to drop into the ocean out of the shipping lanes..

reply to post by TellEmRye


I haven't read through the thread yet, but I just wanted to throw in my $0.02 because I have seen what you're talking about, but I have no idea what it is. My very first post on ATS (under a different user name, I *think*) was about this very phenomena. My sis and I are avid sky watchers and we first witnessed this about three years ago. We are in Kentucky, btw. We are both very familiar with satellites, planes, space junk, meteors and all the normal stuff you would expect to see in the night sky, but this was something different and I have yet to identify it. Some people think they are plasma critters. I have no idea, because who knows what really exists out there... I try to keep an open mind. I apologize if this idea has already been tossed around in this thread.

I made an animation a few years to give ATS'ers an idea of what I was seeing. I've tried and tried to find it on here using the search and it just isn't coming up. I'll keep looking and I'll post it if I find it and see if what you saw looks anything like what I saw.

Here is my thread about it, btw: Link

I just wanted to throw in an edit to add that I wonder if the military has some kind of weird laser thing that could cause this, especially given the speeds these lights move at. I really just can't fathom an actual craft moving around that fast. A laser being aimed from the ground, or even from a satellite in space might give that visual effect, maybe. It's the only thing I can think of that *might* cause what I saw. But then again, lasers aren't necessarily visible, so who knows! It would be good to find out what they are, though.

And once again my post giving the simplest explanation is totally ignored.

It was most likely a Met Police helicopter at a distance.

I have seen this many times and it looks exactly as the OP described.

I despair sometimes.

reply to post by PheonixReborn


Sure, it's a fine explanation for some low level incident so thank you for thinking into it - but to me that's not what is being described. It doesn't seem to be what the OP, and just about every other poster in this thread is talking about. Most of the reports mention "looking up". No-one exlaimed they were looking to the horizon or at the moon. They're peering into a darkened (but star filled) sky. It it certainly helps to look UP in this game, not toward the horizon... You'll likely spot the real deal when you tilt your head back 90 degrees

I believe everyone here is talking about sightings within the yellow zone:


At that point you really run out of options when it comes to illuminated objects at night. Satellites, planes/helicopters directly overhead, meteors - all predictable movements, sounds and sights. Helicopter overhead would be loud and pretty obvious. Plane would be slow and likely with noise. Meteor would be short, streaking and bright.

Taking this into account and the reports by the OP, myself, the semi circle report, a first time poster and numerous others the likelihood of it being a police chopper and being misidentified are very slim. I have no video or photos from my encounters either, though I did try - the op is right, either the objects/dancing stars are too small or dimly lit (when performing these routines) or too quick (AND dimly lit) when moving along at speed. Being able to make out inconsistencies amongst the blackness of the night sky and the stars helps, sometimes you only get the briefest of moments to encounter this sort of stuff. But it CAN be seen and with just eyes.

People with glasses or certainly those with long distance vision problems may have difficulty spotting these things. Never the less, there are IR videos of these objects out there, and I intend to invest in my own IR equip soon enough because this is a legitimate phenomena above the skies of southern UK, and by the sound of it, globally

reply to post by markymint


I went back and read every single one of the OP's posts just to make sure of this.

At no point did he say it was in the region you claim. He just said he looked up.

You're making some huge assumptions and creating a very pretty graph but there is nothing the OP said to back these up.

Perhaps the OP could respond with a clarification of his observation?

Sure, maybe he will. But, "we all gaze up at the night sky" and "I looked up" don't strike you as the action of looking up? Read between the lines a little perhaps? Stars are barely visible below the 45 degree mark anyway, so I don't see why he needs to clarify, it's pretty clear where he and the others are looking. UP up. Not across up.

Furthermore he's outside, not behind a window. At least, that's the impression I get. And even if this OP has faked a story, it can only be based on previous reports so that should spark up the possibility, as there are hundreds of them out there, I doubt they were always met police choppers Anyway, not bothered - you believe it's a helicopter and that's fine. Those of us that know, know.

reply to post by SloAnPainful


Assuming he did take a recording. Most people on ats will be quick to dismiss it as either..hoax..a scam..gas..a balloon..a dinosaur or a tennis court.

Originally posted by markymint
Sure, maybe he will. But, "we all gaze up at the night sky" and "I looked up" don't strike you as the action of looking up?

Most people look down when they're walking. Mainly to avoid stepping in something they'd rather not. Looking up could be construed as looking away from the ground. I'd like the OP to actually say where he was looking rather than rely on your assumption.

Originally posted by markymint
Read between the lines a little perhaps? Stars are barely visible below the 45 degree mark anyway, so I don't see why he needs to clarify, it's pretty clear where he and the others are looking. UP up. Not across up.

And I repeat... could the OP clarify where he was looking at the time? I prefer not to read between any lines as that constitutes making up any old guff you want to believe.

Originally posted by markymint
Furthermore he's outside, not behind a window. At least, that's the impression I get.

Who suggested he was behind a window? I certainly didn't!

Originally posted by markymint
And even if this OP has faked a story, it can only be based on previous reports so that should spark up the possibility, as there are hundreds of them out there, I doubt they were always met police choppers

Anyway, not bothered - you believe it's a helicopter and that's fine. Those of us that know, know.

I never accused the OP of faking anything. I gave an explanation based on my own experiences.

And how, exactly, do you know?

Originally posted by LevelEleven
reply to post by SloAnPainful

 

Assuming he did take a recording. Most people on ats will be quick to dismiss it as either..hoax..a scam..gas..a balloon..a dinosaur or a tennis court.

I'd hope most people would judge it on it's merits.

If it looks like a frog, croaks like a frog and jumps like frog... it's a frog!

Yet there are still people in this world who will insist it's a cow.

I just don't get this mindset.

What a stubborn piece of work. OP came here to share his experience, not come asking for a breakdown or investigation of it or for people to question him. He shared an experience and the majority responded with their sightings of similar objects too, yet you jump in and demand it gets proven or disproven - your approach is idiotic, it's UFO-forum trolling in this day and age. People with sightings are best off reaching out and talking to other people with sightings, not people coming for a daily feed of UFO news.

I know because I've been subject to various other worldly displays and once that starts happening to you, comments like yours just become trash for those who make out they have no clue. Go out and look at the stars, stop pestering the OP to clarify something he never asked to be clarified in the first place. He is as certain as he needs to be about what he saw and many of us others are certain too because we've been enlightened to such a show in the sky.

Why are you browsing this forum? Is UFO/aliens an actual interest of yours, or do you just like playing armchair detective or something - do you strictly disbelieve in UFOs/aliens etc or are you "trying to find proof" or something? Whatever, your attitude suggests to me you won't see much for yourself, and if you do, you'll probably shut up and never return and say a word.

I realize the above means nothing to you, sigh, this is because you don't "know". You're not part of the club. You may think you are, browsing an internet forum, reading some posts and taking in second hand info - but you're not. Not until you have a legit sighting for yourself. And don't get bolshy at me because that hasn't happened to you yet. It's not my fault.

Say things worked out and the result was, it's a helicopter - what would you say, how would you feel then? Would you even post a reply? And what if ultimately the result turned out to be "not of this earth", then what would your stance be, please? That's a serious question, I'm not trying to be pedantic.

Originally posted by markymint
What a stubborn piece of work. OP came here to share his experience, not come asking for a breakdown or investigation of it or for people to question him. He shared an experience and the majority responded with their sightings of similar objects too, yet you jump in and demand it gets proven or disproven - your approach is idiotic, it's UFO-forum trolling in this day and age. People with sightings are best off reaching out and talking to other people with sightings, not people coming for a daily feed of UFO news.

If you go back and look at the OP his first line is: "Hello people, I want to know my fellow ATS'ers opinions on what I have witnessed tonight."

I gave my opinion. You seem to think I have no right to do that.

I know because I've been subject to various other worldly displays and once that starts happening to you, comments like yours just become trash for those who make out they have no clue. Go out and look at the stars, stop pestering the OP to clarify something he never asked to be clarified in the first place. He is as certain as he needs to be about what he saw and many of us others are certain too because we've been enlightened to such a show in the sky.

You seem very certain in yourself. Perhaps you would like to give your own experiences. I could even comment on them. Or would I not be allowed to?

Why are you browsing this forum? Is UFO/aliens an actual interest of yours, or do you just like playing armchair detective or something - do you strictly disbelieve in UFOs/aliens etc or are you "trying to find proof" or something? Whatever, your attitude suggests to me you won't see much for yourself, and if you do, you'll probably shut up and never return and say a word.

I really think you misunderstand me. I'm actually a believer! I've seen things I simply can't explain. I have seen things I can explain and that's what I try to do to people like the OP. There are weird things going on in our skies but sometimes a frog is just a frog.

I realize the above means nothing to you, sigh, this is because you don't "know". You're not part of the club. You may think you are, browsing an internet forum, reading some posts and taking in second hand info - but you're not. Not until you have a legit sighting for yourself. And don't get bolshy at me because that hasn't happened to you yet. It's not my fault.

You really are making more assumptions about me than you think I am about the UFO phenomena.

I have seen RAF Phantoms chasing a silver sphere over my house. In the daylight. I can't explain that but I'd be more than happy for someone to explain it for me.

Say things worked out and the result was, it's a helicopter - what would you say, how would you feel then? Would you even post a reply? And what if ultimately the result turned out to be "not of this earth", then what would your stance be, please? That's a serious question, I'm not trying to be pedantic.

If it was a helicopter, and I notice the OP hasn't come back to say he was looking "up" yet, then I would say I thought it was. If it was not of this planet then I would be excited beyond belief.

Now, can you calm down because you're sounding very agitated.

In 1993, iwas 12, iwas laying in bed one night after everyone had went to bed. All the lights were off and we lived out in the sticks so there were no street lights or other homes around. The trees and yard in the direction of my bedroom window lit upand i heard a rumbling noise, it sounded like a car with nomiffler. So i took notice then a large white object went zig zagging through the sky and it was pretty low. It was making a loud beeping noise. I threw the covers over my head and froze.

The zig zagging discription is what drew me into this post. Possiblyyour attention was drawn to it on purpose, they wanted you to see them? This is all anunknown giessing game to all of us. Expect people to discredit you once youtell your story.

What does your gut tell you, you saw?

Originally posted by TellEmRye
- - - It also occasionally seem to flash blue & green lights, and change its shape slightly. - - - -

Assuming it wasn't an object miles across in size, then it wasn't located at great distance. Objects like stars are dimensionless because they do not subtend an angle at the eye, so appear as points. You can magnify a star using any optical telescope you like, but it remains a point. The distances are too vast. To change shape, an object must subtend an angle at your eye lens. That's how we discern the physical size and shape of something. To subtend an angle large enough to see it change shape, it must be located relatively close to the observer or be of gigantic dimensions. For example, can you discern by eye the shape of the ISS as it passes overhead? This is several hundred meters across and is at a distance of around 250 miles. I've no idea what was seen. It's very intriguing. Just wanted to help the OP understand how we discern size/shape of objects.

WG3

I have also had some experience with these star-like UFOs. Sometimes they just hover and flash the spectrum of colors (purple, blue, orange, and pretty much every color under the sun). I believe that some people (those who do not believe in ET) possibly train themselves not to see what s clearly there and spend their entire life trying to disprove anything that they deem "unexplainable". The first time I saw one of these things I tried to "force" myself to believe that it was a shooting star, although shooting stars cannot zig-zag like the object I saw as well as OP. I am still trying to figure what I could have seen as well. I firmly believe there is something in our skies watching us.

I saw an object zig zagging across the sky like that years ago, back in the early eighties. This object was up so high, and it looked to be the size of the surrounding stars. It had to have been nowhere near earth. It did move strangely, after it zig zagged a few times it took off like a shot and disappeared. I was, ahem, at the time parking with my boyfriend (sitting on the hood looking up at the sky) at the end of a cul de sac in new housing area. There were no lights around, so we could see tons of stars. We were not the only ones who saw it, while driving home we had the radio on and people were calling in and talking about it.

So, I believe you. If your object was as high up as the one I saw, there is no way it was man made in any way.