William & Kate are the TWO WITNESSES and Prince George THE CHRIST RETURNED.

AngryCymraeg
reply to post by Olivet

 

Strange how all these people who agree with your theory don't leave any comments. Or give your posts many stars. In fact looking back at it any stars.

I see that this thread has a power of attraction on you. You're addicted to it. It's worst than being the OP for the OP is entitled to feed his own thread with new inputs and clearer explanations.

Speaking of stars, or flags, you should consider the 58 flags which were given by the readers to the thread called "End of the World" Prediction [1] October 2013 [Autistic son] that everyone knew the unlikely occurrence far before the given date comes and goes.

Ask yourself why so many people gave so many flags for an obvious non-sense...confirmed by the facts. The odds the end of the world would happen on October 1st were FAR LOWER than Prince George being Christ returned in the future, supported by facts.

Ask yourself why so few people gave so few flags / stars for a thread proving its claim by the facts, but being against the beliefs of the majority, conveyed by secular institutions like the churches since centuries to serve and protect but themselves. The answer is in relation to the state of this world diving into the abyss of the ignorance and stupidity.

So, I don't care about what the scores of this thread, or my posts, are, in terms of stars or flags, for the facts show us how irrelevant are those kinds of scores. They mean nothing to know how true a claim can be, or even would be.

Those who agree with my theory are therefore certainly very few. And they are WISELY waiting for the events announced for there will be the judges. But remember that the sheeps dive into the ravine because they follow each other without knowing why some of them at the front are heading to this ravine, for they don't know the final destination.

As you know, the sheeps are more numerous that the few birds fying above, and seeing, the ravine. That's why, finally, I am happy to have few stars / flags because I prefer quality rather than quantity. I prefer birds rather than sheeps.

Remember that Jesus has died on the cross because of the mob.

reply to post by Olivet


.... ooookay. Anything for a weird life. And by the way this is merely a thread that amuses me. There's no obsession on my part. Just on your part.

AngryCymraeg
reply to post by Olivet

 

.... ooookay. Anything for a weird life. And by the way this is merely a thread that amuses me. There's no obsession on my part. Just on your part.

edit on 3-10-2013 by AngryCymraeg because: typo

If this thread obsessively amuses you, don't repeatedly say that you're leaving it because of its 'non-sense'. Changeable you are, like I already said it. But now, what I see in your behavior is a plan of trolling this thread because it means that you don't intend to address the points I give here, but amuse yourself at the expense of the readers who want arguments instead of childish moves from you.

My only obsession is to make my claim as clear as possible, with new inputs and deeper explanations, for my time here will stop suddenly whenever 'they' decide when the time has come to explode the stale old beliefs.

Olivet

Fapomet
reply to post by Olivet

 

1) The year thousand nine hundred ninety nine seven month,
2) From the heaven there will come a great King of Terror:
3)To bring back to life the great King of Angolmois,
4) Before after Mars to reign by good luck.


Here is the meaning:

1) FULL 1999 + 7 months (July 2000)

2) KING OF TERROR = Hades = Death (from which someone can resurrect in the third line) = card 13 in the tarot deck = 13 Years since heaven could mean the revolutions of Earth around the sun, i.e. the cosmic clock, (PLUS 13 YEARS = JULY 2013)

I stopped directly after this point. That's one god awful attempt at a rational interpretation if I've ever seen it.

Maybe you should put your feet in Nostradamus' shoes. He was an initiate with a deep knowledge of the universal symbolism. His quatrains are full of symbols and intentional 'errors' of vocabulary which hide meanings that anagrams could enlighten, like CHYREN for HENRYC (secondus = rescuer). Nostradamus had his own language. When you learn a language you must change your mind and adapt yourself to the culture related to this new language. It takes times to be accustomed to it. A first reading doesn't help you to immerse yourself in Nostradamus' culture.

That's why this 'Hades' interpretation (and more generally the number 13 which triggers fear in people's mind, hence a great king of terror) is not just an attempt but the right tool not to be trapped in the simpliest view of the year 1999 that comes too easily to the readers' thought. Nostradamus hid many intel to the mob. Otherwise, his style would have been far simplier and easier to read. The year 1999 is therefore NOT what Nostradamus conveyed for his constant will was to loose the non-initiates.

Remember that there are far less students in a Phd course than in a high school for it is more difficult to study more complex matters than mundane ones. For high school students, the Phd vocabulary in a specific field is non-sense. You see what I mean?

edit on 3-10-2013 by Olivet because: (no reason given)

Yeah I see that you're delusional and not that intelligent. I guess you can take mangled words and make them fit, and take inaccurate dates and change them as you see fit since nothing has happened yet relevant to that prediction. It's alot easier that way. But is it accurate? No.

It is the goal of most true occultists to *lose non-initiates. Aleister Crowley is a perfect example, speaking in code so deeply that only those with eyes to see would be able to comprehend what he was saying. His writings are in english, yet seem to be in a different language altogether. "The lips of wisdom are closed except to the ears of understanding." But there's a difference between what you're talking about, and what you did with his prediction. You're simply reaching too far for something that isn't there. There is nothing linking your hypothesis to the original prediction except for vague and irrelevant garbage that you've forced upon Nostradamus's words.

reply to post by Fapomet


This is your POV. But there is not a real argument in your gibberish. However, I respect it.

Except that in July 1999 nothing happened like Nostradamus described it to occur.

Except that in July 2013 the birth of a king-to-be occured exactly like Nostradamus described it, i.e. a KING OF THE ANGLOIS! (for ANGoLmOIS) The year 1999 + 7 months + 13 years = JULY 2013!

That's make a great difference, isn't it?

the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge Prince William and Catherine will be the TWO WITNESSES of the Scriptures, and their boy the Prince of Cambridge GEORGE will be the CHRIST RETURNED

Um .. no. Scripture is very clear. Jesus will return the way He left .. He will come again IN GLORY IN THE CLOUDS. He won't be reborn and He certainly wouldn't be reborn to the English royals. As for the parents of George being 'the two witness' ... they lived together before they got married. I'd say that means they aren't exactly steeped in the 'Word of God' and aren't exactly witnessing to it, ya' know??

Olivet
reply to post by Fapomet

 

This is your POV. But there is not a real argument in your gibberish. However, I respect it.

Except that in July 1999 nothing happened like Nostradamus described it to occur.

Except that in July 2013 the birth of a king-to-be occured exactly like Nostradamus described it, i.e. a KING OF THE ANGLOIS! (for ANGoLmOIS) The year 1999 + 7 months + 13 years = JULY 2013!

That's make a great difference, isn't it?

edit on 3-10-2013 by Olivet because: (no reason given)

No, my problem lies specifically with how you came to the conclusion to add 13 years. Please explain this to me, thank you.

Olivet

 

The odds the end of the world would happen on October 1st were FAR LOWER than Prince George being Christ returned in the future, supported by facts.

There's no objective, testable evidence available to support even the idea of any gods, let alone such a wild claim about the odds of this OP being more likely than the Oct 1st prophecy silliness.
Thanks for the chuckle though, I also find this thread amusing so please do continue presenting your argument in the same manner, it is very entertaining

FlyersFan

the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge Prince William and Catherine will be the TWO WITNESSES of the Scriptures, and their boy the Prince of Cambridge GEORGE will be the CHRIST RETURNED

Um .. no. Scripture is very clear. Jesus will return the way He left .. He will come again IN GLORY IN THE CLOUDS. He won't be reborn and He certainly wouldn't be reborn to the English royals. As for the parents of George being 'the two witness' ... they lived together before they got married. I'd say that means they aren't exactly steeped in the 'Word of God' and aren't exactly witnessing to it, ya' know??

No! I wrote about +300 posts to prove that the Scriptures are very clear.

1) The WAY Jesus left is NOT a description of the likeness of his body (as a grown up) but the MEANS used to make him leave, otherwise the angel would have used different words. This means is a multidimensional spaceship like all the descriptions of the interventions of the angels make that clear. The CLOUDS are ET ships surrounded by the clouds they form around them (condensat Bose-Einstein temperature triggering the vapor condensation principle).

2) Rev 12 clearly describes A WOMAN GIVING BIRTH TO A MALE CHILD who will go to God and his throne to have the authority of the Anointed to rule the nations with a rod of iron. This is a CLEAR description of Christ returned who is born from the Woman of the Apocalypse.

3) The TWO WITNESSES will stand before the Lord of the Earth, aka Christ. Since the Two Witnesses will prophesize the same number of days (1,260 days) that the Woman of the Apocalypse will be fed by God in the desert / wilderness (1,260 days), it can only mean that one of the Two Witnesses IS the woman of the Apocalypse standing before Christ. Therefore, the ONLY other one should be his father standing before Christ too.

4) Being together before their wedding don't mean that the future William and Kate won't be the Two Witnesses since I lengthly explained that both of them will be NEW PEOPLE.

5) Since the birth of Prince George perfectly matches the conditions described by John in the Book of Revelation, including the Red Dragon with 7 heads / crowns and 10 horns (the British monarchy with the exact number of kings (10), including the 7 kings George) which is the first Beast ruled by the second Beast (the City of London) perfectly described by John too (Dragon + 2 horns + all nations speculating with its money), both Beast being the number 666 (for King Solomon 666 talents of gold) therefore what we are waiting for now is the ET abduction (the angels) of WILLIAM + CATHERINE + GEORGE to come back in bodies of light from God and his throne.

But I shouldn't have written all of this if you have followed this thread properly.

grainofsand

Olivet

 

The odds the end of the world would happen on October 1st were FAR LOWER than Prince George being Christ returned in the future, supported by facts.

There's no objective, testable evidence available to support even the idea of any gods, let alone such a wild claim about the odds of this OP being more likely than the Oct 1st prophecy silliness.
Thanks for the chuckle though, I also find this thread amusing so please do continue presenting your argument in the same manner, it is very entertaining

I just explained AGAIN the likelihood of the claim of this thread above. These are objective facts supporting the visions of John. And the events to come will prove them even more. There are thousands of evidences supporting the reality of the UFOs / ETs behaving like the chariots of fire-wheels / angels of the Bible.

The end of the world odds are far lower because we could have got clues about it coming few days / months before. But we didn't. In addition the way this prediction was offered was quite suspicious and at least very 'light'. It even came like hundreds of 'end of the world' predictions which came and went with ...no end.

So, continue to enjoy this thread.

Olivet
If this thread obsessively amuses you, don't repeatedly say that you're leaving it because of its 'non-sense'. Changeable you are, like I already said it. But now, what I see in your behavior is a plan of trolling this thread because it means that you don't intend to address the points I give here, but amuse yourself at the expense of the readers who want arguments instead of childish moves from you.

My only obsession is to make my claim as clear as possible, with new inputs and deeper explanations, for my time here will stop suddenly whenever 'they' decide when the time has come to explode the stale old beliefs.

Do not misquote me. There is no obsession. There is just amusement that is now tinged with annoyance as well as incredularity. There are no arguments that I can make against this thread because you have an obsession about your theory that is worrying and nothing I could say could convince you that this entire thing is based on a foundation of woo.
Your ability to persuade yourself that you have a workable theory is the thing that keeps drawing me back by the way. To laugh.

Fapomet

Olivet
reply to post by Fapomet

 

This is your POV. But there is not a real argument in your gibberish. However, I respect it.

Except that in July 1999 nothing happened like Nostradamus described it to occur.

Except that in July 2013 the birth of a king-to-be occured exactly like Nostradamus described it, i.e. a KING OF THE ANGLOIS! (for ANGoLmOIS) The year 1999 + 7 months + 13 years = JULY 2013!

That's make a great difference, isn't it?

edit on 3-10-2013 by Olivet because: (no reason given)

No, my problem lies specifically with how you came to the conclusion to add 13 years. Please explain this to me, thank you.

Easy. The second line is:

2) From the heaven there will come a great King of Terror:

I wrote:

2) KING OF TERROR = Hades = Death (from which someone can resurrect in the third line) = card 13 in the tarot deck = 13 Years since heaven could mean the revolutions of Earth around the sun, i.e. the cosmic clock, (PLUS 13 YEARS = JULY 2013) (preferably IN THE JULIAN CALENDAR (Nostradamus time) which goes from July 14th to August 14th).

'FROM THE HEAVEN' MEANS THE REVOLUTIONS OF THE EARTH AROUND THE SUN. Hence, a number (13) of years. This number must be added to JULY 2000 (the year 1999 + 7 months) because this is at this moment in time (July 2000) that comes a Great King of Terror, aka the 13 (HADES) years (REVOLUTIONS OF EARTH) to be added.

To be perfectly clear:

HEAVEN = SKY = CYCLES OF THE APPARENT SKY = YEARS.

Now that October 1st, and October 3rd, which consumed a lot of energy of the ATS community, are happily and fortunately almost passed, we can finally look at what resists and remains:

The Return of Christ on October! i.e. this thread.

Stay tuned on the news from the royals...

Olivet

Fapomet

Olivet
reply to post by Fapomet

 

This is your POV. But there is not a real argument in your gibberish. However, I respect it.

Except that in July 1999 nothing happened like Nostradamus described it to occur.

Except that in July 2013 the birth of a king-to-be occured exactly like Nostradamus described it, i.e. a KING OF THE ANGLOIS! (for ANGoLmOIS) The year 1999 + 7 months + 13 years = JULY 2013!

That's make a great difference, isn't it?

edit on 3-10-2013 by Olivet because: (no reason given)

No, my problem lies specifically with how you came to the conclusion to add 13 years. Please explain this to me, thank you.

Easy. The second line is:

2) From the heaven there will come a great King of Terror:

I wrote:

2) KING OF TERROR = Hades = Death (from which someone can resurrect in the third line) = card 13 in the tarot deck = 13 Years since heaven could mean the revolutions of Earth around the sun, i.e. the cosmic clock, (PLUS 13 YEARS = JULY 2013) (preferably IN THE JULIAN CALENDAR (Nostradamus time) which goes from July 14th to August 14th).

'FROM THE HEAVEN' MEANS THE REVOLUTIONS OF THE EARTH AROUND THE SUN. Hence, a number (13) of years. This number must be added to JULY 2000 (the year 1999 + 7 months) because this is at this moment in time (July 2000) that comes a Great King of Terror, aka the 13 (HADES) years (REVOLUTIONS OF EARTH) to be added.

To be perfectly clear:

HEAVEN = SKY = CYCLES OF THE APPARENT SKY = YEARS.

edit on 3-10-2013 by Olivet because: (no reason given)

Thank you. I just wanted you to prove to everyone else that you were f***ing nuts.

It doesn't say "13 years since heaven" it says "From the heaven there will come a great King of Terror"

I guarantee you Nostradamus was not trying to refer to a specific year in such an obscure and refutable way.

Death is not a negative card in the tarot, it is not associated with "terror" at all, in fact, in the tarot tradition, the Death card represents Rebirth more than anything.

Plus the Major Arcana tarot cards weren't even introduced until the 1700's, earlier versions of the tarot existed before that but they were not the ones that you are referring to, so Nostradamus could not have been referring to those tarot cards in the 1500's. Tarot wasn't even popular or used for divinations at all until the 1700's.

Point is, your justification is vague at best, and completely stupid at worst.

reply to post by Fapomet


You don't prove anything but thank you to participate to the arguments presented. It's so good to have someone to talk to seriously sometimes.

However, I have three remarks.

1) The second line is obviously a figure of speech. I didn't know I would have to explain it once more as it is so obvious. We can say: From the sky there will come 13 cycles. The word cycles is implicit. 'From the heaven / sky' can be said as 'from the cycles of the sky'. A great king of terror' can be said as Thirteen (see below why). The sentence is therefore:

From the cycles of the sky there will come 13. Or, in the proper terms:

13 cycles will come from the sky.

What is funny is that this inversion makes us think about how the English people speak compared to the French...announcing the ANGLOIS (English) anagram. The actual English translation doesn't correspond to the English inversion of the French sentence from a French perspective.


2) The death scares the vast majority of people on this planet. You cannot deny it, unless you don't know the human beings. Of course, the process of death is also the REBIRTH. This is more esoteric and even USEFUL TO ECHO THE RESURRECTION OF THE THIRD LINE. But the point is that I didn't really need to used HADES / DEATH / 13 to make my point for THE NUMBER 13 ITSELF SUFFICES TO EVOKE THE FEAR. I guess I don't have to explain it why for I already did it. We just need this number 13 to talk about what is from the sky.


3) The tarot is from the 14th century in France (Nostradamus' country). It appeared PUBLICLY in the 18th century, like I already explained it too. But you certainly weren't here at that moment when I also said that Nostradamus used the tarot symbolism in secret circles, i.e. in mystic schools like the Mystic Temple and the Rose+Croix, and others even more secret. So, the Major Arcana cards were perfectly known by these initiates like Nostradamus. But they remained secret for a very long time...otherwise these schools wouldn't have been secret.

So, your garantee doesn't mean anything for me for I know exactly why Nostradamus used the year 1999, 7 months as a reference to the 13 years to add. The reason was also explained here:

The future father of the male child born in JULY 2013 was also the father of a male child born in JULY 1999, having the first name of the future father!

But this, you cannot know. I would be too much chatty if I had to explain it to you why. But I don't need to insult you to tell you how uninformed you are.

Olivet
reply to post by Fapomet

 

You don't prove anything but thank you to participate to the arguments presented. It's so good to have someone to talk to seriously sometimes.

However, I have three remarks.

1) The second line is obviously a figure of speech. I didn't know I would have to explain it once more as it is so obvious. We can say: From the sky there will come 13 cycles. The word cycles is implicit. 'From the heaven / sky' can be said as 'from the cycles of the sky'. A great king of terror' can be said as Thirteen (see below why). The sentence is therefore:

From the cycles of the sky there will come 13. Or, in the proper terms:

13 cycles will come from the sky.

What is funny is that this inversion makes us think about how the English people speak compared to the French...announcing the ANGLOIS (English) anagram. The actual English translation doesn't correspond to the English inversion of the French sentence from a French perspective.


2) The death scares the vast majority of people on this planet. You cannot deny it, unless you don't know the human beings. Of course, the process of death is also the REBIRTH. This is more esoteric and even USEFUL TO ECHO THE RESURRECTION OF THE THIRD LINE. But the point is that I didn't really need to used HADES / DEATH / 13 to make my point for THE NUMBER 13 ITSELF SUFFICES TO EVOKE THE FEAR. I guess I don't have to explain it why for I already did it. We just need this number 13 to talk about what is from the sky.


3) The tarot is from the 14th century in France (Nostradamus' country). It appeared PUBLICLY in the 18th century, like I already explained it too. But you certainly weren't here at that moment when I also said that Nostradamus used the tarot symbolism in secret circles, i.e. in mystic schools like the Mystic Temple and the Rose+Croix, and others even more secret. So, the Major Arcana cards were perfectly known by these initiates like Nostradamus. But they remained secret for a very long time...otherwise these schools wouldn't have been secret.

So, your garantee doesn't mean anything for me for I know exactly why Nostradamus used the year 1999, 7 months as a reference to the 13 years to add. The reason was also explained here:

The future father of the male child born in JULY 2013 was also the father of a male child born in JULY 1999, having the first name of the future father!

But this, you cannot know. I would be too much chatty if I had to explain it to you why. But I don't need to insult you to tell you how uninformed you are.

edit on 3-10-2013 by Olivet because: (no reason given)

Right....You're the one claiming that the prince of England is Christ reincarnated, and I'm the uninformed one?

And Nostradamus's involvement with secret occult sects was so secret that only you somehow know about his involvement with them...

I suggest you put the proverbial shovel down, and walk away while you can. Even though, at this point, I don't think you can reclaim dignity.

Christ isn't real, there is no second coming.

Nostradamus never claimed to be a prophet.

Not one of his predictions have ever been proven to come true, except of course by "retroactive clairvoyance" haha. Meaning only after significant events happen, can people attribute them to selective passages. Your attempt is no different.

If you're going to make multiple outstanding claims in one post, i.e. Christ's existence and reincarnation into the Prince of England, and the supposed accurate predictions of an "un-prophet", I suggest you provide a little evidence of either before asserting your insane claims.

Hi OP you are as incorrect as your last (only other) thread.

You are as rational as your two year hiding on Reunion Island then calling it an alien abduction to try to make it an "event".

Jahari
If by chance christ is really coming back the chances he choose two people from a bloodline of self appointed royals is slim to none. Don't really seem really jesus like to me. Maybe the guy that mops up urine at the homeless shelter but two royals....I don't buy it! But who the hell am I? I pray to allah, budda and jesus...just to cover all bases.

Actually thats exactly what I would do. Doing that he has money, therfore he can reach the masses. Imagine, a poor person claiming to be crist, he would be scoffed at more than the person who has money and power.

Just a thought.

reply to post by Tylerdurden1


Social conditioning at it's finest right here.

reply to post by OmegaSynthesis


Jesus was poor. Look what happend to him. If he were one of the rich priests...he would have died of old age.