PayPal Tests Facial Recognition

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes


Honestly, everything is invasive nowadays. I have a smartphone, basically because I'm not accomplishing anything by not having one. I'm not one of those who "needs" one and believes it's some survival tool, but they already know where I work, where I live, and they already monitor my Internet activity, phone calls, and text messages anyway. So what am I accomplishing by them not being able to track my every move?

I get what you're saying, though. I don't think it'll necessarily force everyone to get a smart phone. I think we're on our way to retinal scans, though, if not microchips.

Originally posted by DivisiveConformity
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes

 

Honestly, everything is invasive nowadays. I have a smartphone, basically because I'm not accomplishing anything by not having one. I'm not one of those who "needs" one and believes it's some survival tool, but they already know where I work, where I live, and they already monitor my Internet activity, phone calls, and text messages anyway. So what am I accomplishing by them not being able to track my every move?

I get what you're saying, though. I don't think it'll necessarily force everyone to get a smart phone. I think we're on our way to retinal scans, though, if not microchips.

I don't want one simply because they cost too much, and I flat have no need for most of the features. I have GPS, and limited internet, a camera and video, and even music, and that's all I would use. If I need a computer, I use one at home. If I was out a lot more, I MIGHT see a need, but at this stage, I don't, and I resent the heck out of the cell companies trying to force everyone to get one, by not carrying simpler models.

It's very true that they can track us without them. Systems like that discussed in the program Person of Interest are very possible. I even read that in NYC, they have something that used video cameras and other, unspecified systems, for some sort of "law enforcement" use. With a smart phone, it is just simpler. I worry more about hackers and stalking, etc., than the government, though. Apps that allow people to track "friends" through a phone can be accessed by others.

Retinal scans, facial recognition, and even implants are probably coming; I agree. Total invasion of privacy, but people will rush out and agree to it, for the new tech.

This is so easy to fool.
with very high res cameras you take some ones pic.
and it will even fool a retina scan.

the Only way they will Ever make some thing like this work
is with a brain scan !
you can fake all the others.

we need to stop being a part of this sick world.#
that is ONLY out to USE us!

set sup community's.

reply to post by DivisiveConformity


The best way to stop this Intrusion and any further Intrusions is to stop using Paypal!

Better yet.... stop buying things online.... go back out to the shops and use 'cash' again. I always use cash when i'm out and about.... I don't like using my card! I don't shop online either... I have what i need at this present time.

Originally posted by buddha
This is so easy to fool.
with very high res cameras you take some ones pic.

That won't work. You have to "check in" to the store on PayPal's app, then you take your stuff to the check out line, and the store employee selects your face from the system. You'd basically have to hold that same picture in front of your face when you're dealing with the employee and fool them for that to work.

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes


I agree. They've found ways to make these technologies "cool". They market to the idiots, which, unfortunately, makes up a majority of our population. That makes it easier for them to introduce these invasions of privacy on a wide scale.

Originally posted by DivisiveConformity
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes

 

I agree. They've found ways to make these technologies "cool". They market to the idiots, which, unfortunately, makes up a majority of our population. That makes it easier for them to introduce these invasions of privacy on a wide scale.

Exactly! People love the gadgets (and it's hard not to), and ignore, of downplay, the potential issues. Even a phone cam, for example, can have data on the pics from which someone can locate you, to a few FEET. Sure, it can be removed, but most people don't take time for that. That would mean setting the phone differently, and most don't other, or, in some cases, using a program to remove the data. My cell, for example, doesn't locate the pic, but it DOES place, get this, a copyright from the PHONE BRAND on the pics, in the EXIF data. The phone people claim it isn't there, but it's on all of the. The rare times I use it, I open the images in Corel, and remove it.

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes


Yeah, that geo-tagging is ridiculous. I have it shut off. I have a friend who didn't know about it and she sent me a picture once and the picture showed EXACTLY where she lives. The little "pin" on Google maps was directly on her house. Fortunately she has it off now, but yeah, it's still dangerous, especially if you're one of the people who uses social media and dating sites to meet people and you don't really know them yet.

Originally posted by DivisiveConformity
reply to post by MystikMushroom

 

I was thinking the same. Personally, I don't think this is the final step. I used to be sure that we'd someday receive microchips implanted into our skin, but I'm not really sure anymore. However, as far as this particular system goes, I can see this as a first step towards retinal scan systems. The film "Minority Report" comes to mind when I think about that type of system.

Despite what may have been in the movies retinal scanning is unreliable. Many things effect your retinal pattern and being pregnant changes it all together. Retinal scans are not used for security identification. If you have allergies it can fail.

The best forms of biometrics use vien patterns in your hand.

Originally posted by DivisiveConformity
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes

 

Yeah, that geo-tagging is ridiculous. I have it shut off. I have a friend who didn't know about it and she sent me a picture once and the picture showed EXACTLY where she lives. The little "pin" on Google maps was directly on her house. Fortunately she has it off now, but yeah, it's still dangerous, especially if you're one of the people who uses social media and dating sites to meet people and you don't really know them yet.

I saw a news video about it, and was shocked! They did a test, and you could see in what room of the house someone was, from the picture data! So many people use it, and have no idea, too. Some probably do, and think it isn't an issue. It's a stalker's dream!

At least you were able to inform your friend!