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Originally posted by OpinionatedB
reply to post by UnifiedSerenity
He speaks of Stevens possibly selling weapons to the Brotherhood. This is illogical.
Yes some wanted to make a rescue attempt for Stevens and were given stand down orders. (which in my opinion came from the president) This needs to be answered as to why they were given the orders however, they did stand down... they did not go rogue after those orders were given.
None of that goes toward a coup.... military refusing orders even does not make a coup especially if those orders are illegal orders.
Why was Stevens fed to the wolves? IMHO it was because Obama and his administration, Clinton and the like, decided not to try and piss of the Brotherhood whom they have been helping and it was the Brotherhood who wanted Stevens out. This needs answered more than any other damn question... why in the hell have we been helping those who we have been professing as our enemies....? It is a question many have been asking....
It is perhaps some of these in the military are not as "on board" as the current administration would like, and perhaps they are asking some of the same questions as I asked above and the administration decided to put people in place who simply did not care to question... who knows? But that is a logical reason to dismiss people, a lot more logical than some imagined coup to which there is nothing but one man's speculations and is so far reaching as to be insane....
We should be questioning this administration, there policies and practices, what the hell they think they are doing getting into bed with the Brotherhood, a known terrorist organization (whether or not you and this administration agree that is still fact) What the hell they think they are doing to the constitution here in this country, just plain what the hell they think they are doing in general..... and question until we are satisfied with the answers... and impeach him should we find him to have broken laws, or just wait until the next election and perhaps this next time we will do better....
but to fear a coup based on untruths and speculation is ridiculous.
Originally posted by tadaman
reply to post by UnifiedSerenity
I am not too sure of high ranking officials being involved in a coordinated effort to overthrow B. O.
but there were many smaller groups which were poised to do so which is indicative of a greater command structure.
One such smaller group was called "fear". They were compromised of active and retired military personnel .
Their first order of business was to assault the military base most were stationed on and secure as many heavy weapons as possible from an armory. Then basically start a civil war with the end goal of killing B .O
In the end and like 2 weeks before their first armed intervention one of them got cold feet, told his fiancée and was murdered alongside her by the other members since the couple wanted to alert the authorities.
The entire group was publicly labeled as an extremist racially driven group even though they were really a revolutionary movement from within the military.
There are many more from what I understand. Even within special forces and command in all branches of the armed forces.
It is not a hoax. Obama shifted many people from command positions and replaced them with relatively new comers that he could trust more. Especially after the benghazi incident.
Some groups have been around longer but now there is no denying that there exists this sentiment in the military at some level.
why do you think that this administration labeled ex military as potential domestic terrorists .....?
www.eutimes.net...
mobile.nytimes.com...
www.israelnationalnews.com...
edit on 11-8-2013 by tadaman because: (no reason given)
Sorcha Faal reports sometimes appear on conspiracy forums such as Above Top Secret and Godlike Productions, often after being republished by other websites (such as the European Union Times). Invariably, the following amusing pattern emerges: it usually takes only a few posts before the forumites identify the source and the author and start piling verbal abuse on the idiot reposting such bull# and on Sorcha Faal herself, often twisting the name into "such a fail" or some variant thereof.[7] The bad news is that this doesn't stop other forum-dwellers from believing it.
Iranian Press TV: US military planned mutiny on the Bounty to topple Obama. Admiral Gaouette was part of a group of military officers who have been under suspicion for planning a “Seven Days in May” type overthrow of the US government if President Obama is re-elected.
The Obama administration has had American military, both on domestic and foreign bases on high alert since October 1. However, there has been no known terrorist enemy threatening the US. The enemy is called “domestic” but its origins are far from American.
Today, Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette was “fired” from his command of one of the three carrier battle groups back to Bremerton, Washington to face an investigation.
It is impossible to adequately state how unusual this is and how serious.
The Navy was clear that the charges had nothing to do with his personal conduct, no rape or sexual misconduct, no stolen money, no drug use, the things that usually bring down careers in the Navy, that and crashing ships into each other.
Gaouette was sent back because the Secretary of Defense found him unfit for command, sent him across the world in the middle of one of the largest combat exercises in history, one both timed prior to an election and one at a critical location, near the Straits of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf.
Gaouette commanded nearly one third of the Naval and air combat forces in the region.
The decision was made based on a conversation with the Secretary of Defense who, at the end of the talk, believed Gaouette was part of a group of military officers who have been under suspicion for planning a “Seven Days in May” type overthrow of the US government if President Obama is re-elected.
This is not conjecture, dozens of key officers face firing, hundreds are under investigation, all with direct ties to extremist elements in the Republican Party and the Israeli lobby.
www.presstv.com...
By Avalon
theintelhub.com
Special Investigative Report
September 22, 2012
A very interesting NOTAM (Notice To Airmen) was released on September 18th, 2012 which indicate Vice-Presidential Air Travel to the Mount Weather Command Base, located nearby Woodbridge, Virginia.
The link and information to this NOTAM FDC 2/5504 has vanished.
The link to this specific information is broken or the server is not allowing the public access to it for reasons of National Security or a similar rationale, but the information was available up until September 21, 2012 and this information was posted on numerous piloting sites which qualify it as Open-Source.
nesaranews.blogspot.com...
Originally posted by Merinda
How do I put it? Your source is fiction. At least most of it. That the cia is arming and running an outfit in Syria or elsewhere might be true. After all thafs the primary role of the seals thesedays, to provide training to such outfits.edit on 12-8-2013 by Merinda because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Zaphod58
But if you want to believe Sorcha, you have fun with that.
Can a coup happen? I cannot imagine it. Are there CIA operatives closely watching senior staffs ready to arrest them if they appear to be stepping out of line? This article was well worth reading.
Originally posted by redoubt
reply to post by UnifiedSerenity
Can a coup happen? I cannot imagine it. Are there CIA operatives closely watching senior staffs ready to arrest them if they appear to be stepping out of line? This article was well worth reading.
As much as I am NO fan of Mr Obama or the current agenda for this nation, I could not, and would never side-up with some military coup. Even as much as I believe this nation is being misled down a horrible path, military governments are even worse.
No... I would prefer to set this government aside by way of ballot box and maybe even impeachment... but never a coup. Never.
Originally posted by tadaman
reply to post by boncho
the hell are you talking about. The NY freaking times covered the story.
you didn't even read it.
so the standard disinfo tactic is to allude to this being sorcha faal when the only people even mentioning it are those that say its a bad source.
How can you be this blind or willingly blinded.
My sources aren't even an issue when it comes to known public knowledge.
so you are all trying to imply that militias , ex military and active personnel have NOT come under scrutiny by th!e government?why is that?
are you retarded?edit on 12-8-2013 by tadaman because: (no reason given)