Missing 16 year old found, 40 year old abducter killed

Yay another completely mainstream news story thrown into breaking alternative news and turned into a twisted and despicable conspiracy theory blaming victims and justifying criminals. Another member said the other day this is becoming the forum for murders band gun violence, seems about right. The only thing I have left to question in this incident is how it fits in with;
Breaking Alternative News: Member news submissions and discussions covering alternative subjects such as UFO's, conspiracy theory, government secrets, and political scandals.

I guess maybe UFOs did it, I bet there's someone around here thinking it.

This is great news. I would also like to thank the FBI for keeping the taxpayer in mind and offing the jerk saving us from paying for his counsel and lifetime stay at club Fed, where he can eat and live better than many poor Americans.

I believe the young girl will come out a much stronger woman from this experience and her life is destined for better things.

Good Job FBI! That's the way murderers and child abductors should be dealt with. No use having them in prison for the rest of their lives at $50K a year cost to the taxpayers. Instead of a regular funeral this man's body should be thrown into wilderness and have animals finish him off.

Again well done Law Enforcement. Same treatment to given to Castro who kidnapped and raped girls for 10 years.

Do you remember Castro's brothers - for the first few days everyone was "sure" they were guilty too?

Thank god the same FBI agents were not involved in the Castro incident - there would have been two innocent men killed.

It's not well done. YOU are as just as dangerous as the "criminals" you so quickly convict.

Originally posted by Daughter2

Good Job FBI! That's the way murderers and child abductors should be dealt with. No use having them in prison for the rest of their lives at $50K a year cost to the taxpayers. Instead of a regular funeral this man's body should be thrown into wilderness and have animals finish him off.

Again well done Law Enforcement. Same treatment to given to Castro who kidnapped and raped girls for 10 years.

Do you remember Castro's brothers - for the first few days everyone was "sure" they were guilty too?

Thank god the same FBI agents were involved in the Castro incident - there would have been two innocent men killed.

It's not well done. YOU are as just as dangerous as the "criminals" you so quickly convict.

I know..the mean old cops should have asked the nice criminal to quietly come with them. I am sure if they would have used nice words he would have thrown himself on the ground and begged forgiveness.

Real life isn't a TV show. Benson and Stabler don't show up and hand cuff the bad guys because the episode is about to end. Reality is fluid and if the guy pointed the gun at the girl or pointed it at an approaching officer then the right outcome occurred. Don't write me off as being some blind Govt\mil\LEO supporter either. It's certainly possible that an officer acted improperly and if the facts come out to show that then they should face the consequences. I just find the inability for some people here to blame criminals sad.

Originally posted by Daughter2

Good Job FBI! That's the way murderers and child abductors should be dealt with. No use having them in prison for the rest of their lives at $50K a year cost to the taxpayers. Instead of a regular funeral this man's body should be thrown into wilderness and have animals finish him off.

Again well done Law Enforcement. Same treatment to given to Castro who kidnapped and raped girls for 10 years.

Do you remember Castro's brothers - for the first few days everyone was "sure" they were guilty too?

Thank god the same FBI agents were not involved in the Castro incident - there would have been two innocent men killed.

It's not well done. YOU are as just as dangerous as the "criminals" you so quickly convict.

edit on August 12th 2013 by Daughter2 because: (no reason given)

I hear what you say and agree that Castro brothers could have been judged as guilty also. So better to wait.....but only a little! Once it is even proven by more than 50% the guilt of persons like Castro, DiMaggio and other child abductors, they should be shot to save tax payers money. If they really want to live then they be made to work 12 hours a day in hard labor to pay for their prison costs and some payback to the victims.

Also somewhere in this thread there was a mention that abducted girl might be having physical relations with the convict so she might be guilty also. But then there are rules that prevent any adult developing relations with a minor i.e. less than 18 years age. There rules stand good even if minor make advances towards the adult or similar scenarios.

Wonder why such crimes do not happen in Saudi Arabia? Forget about locals, even migrants from heavily criminal countries like S.E. Asia and Africa do not indulge in such unlawful liberties. Wonder Why? Ask the feelings of those whose infants or early teenage kids were abducted, abused and killed by such monsters.


Guess lawmakers are more busy providing more nonsensical perversion in society like gay rights or planning to create civil wars in other countries in order to kill 100s of thousands and displace millions.

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I think you need to pull your head out of that hole in the sand. The regions you cited are rife with crimes of this nature and with much more depravity and frequency. Hell you just cited many lands where parents sell their daughters off before they even reach the age of 12 in many cases. What do you think the buyer plans on doing, putting her through college and teaching her empowerment?? If you want to call me a liar I will just pull a dozen articles a piece from google for you.

Originally posted by Nukeleer


I heard about the disappearance a few days ago, even shared it on my facebook; the heartbreak of a child missing is too much.

I have had many thoughts about this. What this actually a case of abduction?

Is this 16 year old child a victim of Stockholm Syndrome?

Or is this a much more macabre situation? Did she have any part in the deaths of her mother and brother? I seriously hope not.
Thoughts, please.

[url=http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-hannah-anderson-after-dramatic-idaho-rescue-teen-doing-ok-20130810,0,3588407.story]www.latimes.com[/u rl]
(visit the link for the full news article)

I hear 'ya. Something just didn't sit right with me about this story from the beginning, just a gut feeling. That being said, I'm glad the girl is physically ok. I wondered why the parents let her go on trips with this guy if he was that 'creepy'. And if the parents didn't say anything, why did the girl continually go on trips and let him take her to practice (I forget whether it was for, swimming or cheerleading or something). Also this girl wasn't exactly demure. There are photos of her with a lip and belly-button piercings, not that alone justifies this guys actions. I just think there's more to this story than what's being reported.

Originally posted by UnBreakable
There are photos of her with a lip and belly-button piercings, not that alone justifies this guys actions. I just think there's more to this story than what's being reported.

How is that important?
It's nearly impossible to find a woman nowadays without a lip, belly-button , something else pierced. Without tramp stamps or other ink, without dyed hair..
I just don't see how her having those things implies anything.

Originally posted by opethPA

Originally posted by UnBreakable
There are photos of her with a lip and belly-button piercings, not that alone justifies this guys actions. I just think there's more to this story than what's being reported.

How is that important?
It's nearly impossible to find a woman nowadays without a lip, belly-button , something else pierced. Without tramp stamps or other ink, without dyed hair..
I just don't see how her having those things implies anything.

If you read my post, I say that in itself doesn't justify the guys actions. I myself have a sixteen year old daughter and I won't let her get piercings until she's eighteen. To each his own. I just pointed that out as part of the big picture, just a gut feeling there's more going on here than we know. I could be completely wrong.

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Now from what I understand, Dimaggio's father apparently did the same thing in 1988 ? Source

Originally posted by Hollie
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Now from what I understand, Dimaggio's father apparently did the same thing in 1988 ? Source

That's right, and they both died on the same date, Dimaggio shot by FBI, his father shot himself.

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What I want to know is, where is the 16 yr. olds online presence? Facebook? Twitter? Instagram? You know what I mean?

reply to post by DYepes


the migrants from asia and africa when going to saudi arabia do not atleast by 99%, do not indulge into crimes of sorts. reason, you can lose a finger or two and for more serious end up getting head chopped. however, same migrants into more free and liberal societies like US or Europe have higher crime rates.

i do not at all condone 12 year old girls getting forcefully married to 50 year old grand dads. however, each culture has its good and bad points. saudi arabia due to its strict law has low crime rates. it has other drawbacks and negative points nevertheless.

Originally posted by victor7
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saudi arabia due to its strict law has low crime rates. it has other drawbacks and negative points nevertheless.

IMHO Islamic law is criminal in itself. However, I come from a liberated culture, so who am I to judge really.

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It seems like the fbi might be checking into this girls story a bit more. I have thought from the start that she maybe involved a little deeper then just an innocent victim they are now saying that there was 13 calls between the two that day.

Something just don't smell right.

This story is the reason why I returned to ATS after time away. I wanted to see what like-minded people were thinking.

I heard on Good Morning America this morning that the mother and brother were tortured before being killed. Just awful. I'm not entirely convinced Hannah was kidnapped, but I don't think she had anything to do with that part of it. At least I hope not

This made me ask a lot more questions about the given story:

Friend: Hannah Anderson discusses kidnapping on social media

Originally posted by Schillinger

Originally posted by aboutface

Originally posted by Schillinger
And honestly, whats with the constant mentioning of the age of this girl? She's a 16 year old "child", in 2 years she would have been an 18 year old "adult".

Yet another case, void of facts or motive. I'm surprised they didn't burn the cabin again.

You can't be dismissive of her age by saying that in so many years she would be an adult. You want facts, and yet you are ready to throw away the one fact we do know, that she is under age, period. There was an amber alert about her being kidnapped, taken without parental permission to embark on a cross country trip.

Right, and in 2 years the world apparently opens, sea gulls squawk, and she becomes an adult. As if so much changes in 2 years that it's even worth mentioning.

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But Laws are laws and at that age there can be a big difference between16 and 18.
You are still very much maturing.
Would you say there is no difference between 15 and 25?

What a strange thing to go against.

Originally posted by thesaneone
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It seems like the fbi might be checking into this girls story a bit more. I have thought from the start that she maybe involved a little deeper then just an innocent victim they are now saying that there was 13 calls between the two that day.

Something just don't smell right.

...............and also letters she sent to the guy. Only speculation on my part and I hope I'm wrong, but as I said before, there's more to the story and the invesgation continues.

"Hannah Anderson letters found at kidnap suspect's home"

www.cnn.com...

As I said before, this story ain't over yet.

"Family of Calif. abductor requests paternity test for 16-year-old victim"

"Explaining the request for a paternity test, Spanswick said "We are requesting DNA samples from Hannah and anything they can get from Ethan. There are rumors Jim was the children's real father. The parents didn't marry until 2002. We think it's strange he left them so much money with no explanation." DiMaggio named Hannah's grandmother, Bernice Anderson as the sole beneficiary in 2011, replacing his sister Lora Robinson.

Spanswick also described Hannah Anderson's recent behavior as suspicious, saying, "Some things that Hannah is saying on her Facebook doesn't add up so far; her latest posts are disturbing." He did not elaborate.

www.foxnews.com...