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Originally posted by Grimpachi
Cop tazer s will not work you need to ask a healthcare professional to give you electroshock treatments specifically for the implants and they should help you out.
Originally posted by thruthseek3r
Originally posted by denybedoomed
reply to post by thruthseek3r
I'll bite, elaborate please.
The thing is i was asking for input inside this thread, not me putting more information as I am trying to collect datas on the topic.
Thruthseek3r
Originally posted by daskakik
Originally posted by tetra50
I think you do alll who suffer a terrible injustice with a response like this.
Want answers to that question you claim is rarely answered: www.abovetopsecret.com...
Try reading this thread. There are plenty of answers to what you suggest contained therein.
Heff don't waste your time.
I doubt that you will find anything in that thread that answers the question you posed. I know I didn't find any when I asked the same question on it.
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by tetra50
It is a poor metaphor in that rape is most often a crime of opportunity and/or impulse. Obviously the implanting of chips and the long term torture of people via technology cannot, by definition be considered in the same light at all. A directed effort and long term process would be involved - not just an impulse.
As for the need to control people? Of course that need exists and it is more than adequately covered by propaganda, media, groupthink, cultural extortion, economic enslavement, peer pressure and a myriad of other time tested methods.
There are simply too many jumps in logic required to arrive at these answers IMO. Sure, some patents exist regarding "mind control" tech - but a patent neither implies the tech exists or that it would even work... patents only protect the idea of such a device from being copied in a direct way.
Ultimately it is my opinion that the disconnect some people have is that, if they are hearing disembodied voices, it is far more compelling and comfortable to believe that the government is using cutting edge technology to harass and torment them than it is to accept that they may be suffering from medical issues - most of which have very somber implications and diagnoses.edit on 8/9/13 by Hefficide because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by tony9802
reply to post by tetra50
I agree Tetra... you do not need to be chipped for the technology to work on people-- absolutely. This has to be the worst form of human rights abuses imaginable! I hope the topic doesn't become derailed or anything or that bad comments are made.. that would be a bummer.
Here is a website and it has a great deal of info about these things: www.surveillanceissues.com...
P. Baird out of Australia has a great deal of documentation about this so you can take a look at that.
But once again, as you have stated the chip itself doesn't have the be present for the technology to work, but it's a good place to start, because if the technology is operating with the rfid, then you can work on mobilizing it, and deactivating it, and later work on removing it.
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Originally posted by Starwise
reply to post by thruthseek3r
Have you thought about Trigeminal Neuralgia?
Trigeminal neuralgia (TN, or TGN), also known as prosopalgia,[1] suicide disease,[2] or Fothergill's disease[3] is a neuropathic disorder characterized by episodes of intense pain in the face, originating from the trigeminal nerve. The clinical association between TN and hemifacial spasm is the so-called tic douloureux.[4] It has been described as among the most painful conditions known to mankind.[5] It is estimated that 1 in 15,000 or 20,000 people suffer from TN, although the actual figure may be significantly higher due to frequent misdiagnosis. In a majority of cases, TN symptoms begin appearing more frequently over the age of 50, although there have been cases with patients being as young as three years of age. It is more common in females than males.[6] The trigeminal nerve is a paired cranial nerve that has three major branches: the ophthalmic nerve (V1), the maxillary nerve (V2), and the mandibular nerve (V3). One, two, or all three branches of the nerve may be affected. 10-12% of cases are bilateral (occurring on both the left and right sides of the face). Trigeminal neuralgia most commonly involves the middle branch (the maxillary nerve or V2) and lower branch (mandibular nerve or V3) of the trigeminal nerve,[7] but the pain may be felt in the ear, eye, lips, nose, scalp, forehead, cheeks, teeth, or jaw and side of the face. TN is not easily controlled but can be managed with a variety of treatment options.[8]
Also there are many more conditions involving all 12 of the cranial nerves.
Cranial Nerve Review
I also suffer from severe tinnitus due to years of concerts and loud headphones
Books and articles regarding electronic weapons, body and mind control technologies on www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... a search engine for MEDLINE library, service of the U.S. National Library of Medicine and the National Institute of Health:
1. Moreno JD., 2004, DARPA on your mind, Cerebrum;6(4):91-9
2. June 2003, Silence of the neuroengineers, Nature, 423(6942):787
3. Hoag H., June 2003, Remote control, Nature, 423(6942):796-8.
4. Rudolph A, July 2003, Military: brain machine could benefit millions, Nature, 424(6947):369
5. Keiper A, 2006, The age of neuroelectronics, New Atlantis,11:4-41
6. Durand DM, 2007, Neural engineering--a new discipline for analyzing and interacting with the nervous system, Methods Inf Med, 46(2):142-6.
7. Birmingham JT, Graham DM, Tauck DL, May 2004, Lymnaea stagnalis and the development of neuroelectronic technologies, J Neurosci Res,76(3):277-81
8. Kawato M, June 2008, Brain controlled robot, HFSP J., 2(3):136-42. Epub 2008 May 23
9. Glannon W., February 2006, Neuroethics, Bioethics; 20(1):37-52.
10. Fuchs T., November 2006, Ethical issues in neuroscience, Curr Opin Psychiatry;19(6):600-7
11. Butler D., January, 22, 1998 “Advances in Neuroscience May Threaten Human Rights”, Nature, Vol, 391, p. 316
12. Delgado JM, Mark V, Sweet W, Ervin F, Weiss G, Bach-Y-Rita G, Hagiwara R., October,1968, Intracerebral radio stimulation and recording in completely free patients, J Nerv Ment Dis.;147(4):329-40
13. Horgan J., October, 2005, The forgotten era of brain chips, Sci Am.;293(4):66-73
14. Delgado JM, November, 1955, Evaluation of permanent implantation of electrodes within the brain, Electroencephalography and Clinical Neurophysiology, 7(4):637-44.
15. Delgado JM, June 1959, Electronic command of movement and behavior, Transactions of the New York Academy of Sciences; 21:689-99.
16. Faden RR, 1996 May, Human-subjects research today: final report of the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments, Acad Med;71(5):482-3.
17. Heath RG, December, 1963, Electrical self-stimulation of the brain in man, American Journal of Psychiatry, 120:571-7.
18. Heath RG, January 1972, Pleasure and brain activity in man. Deep and surface electroencephalograms during orgasm, Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, 154(1):3-18
19. Adey, W. Ross, December, 1979, Neurophysiologic Effects of Radiofrequency and Microwave Radiation, Bulletin of the New York Academy of Medicine, V.55, #11
20. Bawin SM, Gavalas-Medici RJ, Adey WR., 1973, Effects of Modulated Very High Frequency Fields on Specific Brain Rhythms in Cats, Brain Research, V.58.
21. Elazar Z, Adey WR., 1967, Spectral Analysis of Low Frequency Components in the Electrical Activity of the Hippocampus during Learning, Electroencephalography and Clinical Neurophysiology, V.23.
22. Frey AH, 1965, Behavioral Biophysics, Psychological Bulletin, V.65, #5.
23. Frey AH, 1962, Human Auditory System Response to Modulated Electromagnetic Energy, Journal of Applied Physiology, 17/4, pg. 689 – 692
24. Eichert ES 3rd, Frey AH, June, 1976, Proceedings: Human auditory system response to lower power density, pulse modulated, electromagnetic energy: a search for mechanisms.
25. Frey AH, Feld SR, Frey B., February, 1975, Neural Function and Behavior: Defining to Relationship, Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, V.247
There are 259 articles and books about brain-machine interface, 155 articles about neuroengineering, 80 articles about neural interfacing, 18 articles about neuromechanical systems, 580 articles about neuroinformatics, 20866 articles about neuroimaging, 1380 articles about neural prostheses, 26 articles about artificial and biological neural circuits, 33697 articles about neural control, 3678 articles about neural signal processing, 2658 articles about neural modeling, 2 articles about neuro-computation in MEDLINE library.
1. There are individuals in this country, victims of Psychotronic (or Mind Control, Electronic, Electromagnetic, Directed Energy, Neurological, Non-lethal) Weapons, who are being targeted unjustly or used as human subjects in experiments without their informed consent. Victims of mind/body control detail the most extreme and totalitarian violations of human rights in human history. Criminals may implant people with microchips or nanomaterials and place them under continuous surveillance. They monitor the human brain, continuously alter consciousness and behavior, directly assault and torture mind and bodies of the human subjects.
These are some of the symptoms that targeted individuals may experience:
a). Microwave hearing, torture with loud noise.
b). Visual hallucinations, artificial dreams.
c). Reading thoughts, retrieving memories.
d). Manipulation of thoughts, will, emotions, desires and perceptions.
e). Manipulation of human behavior: forced speech, involuntary body movements, transmission of specific commands into the subconscious, compulsory execution of these commands (i.e. the Manchurian Candidate effect).
f). Debilitation of mental acuity, loss of memory.
g). Sleep deprivation or uncontrollable sleep
h). Cramps, spasms, excruciating artificial pain in any part of the body, manipulation of body systems, including heart attacks and other serious medical conditions.
2. Some victims are subject to harassment and organized stalking in their communities, some victims receive false psychiatric diagnosis and in addition become victims of the systems, from which they are seeking help (medical institutions and law enforcement).
3. The misuse of such brain and body manipulation technology directly undermines the Constitution and Criminal law of the United States.
THEREFORE, your petitioners request that the Government would appoint an investigation in the United States to get to the bottom of these gross violations of human rights based upon the evidence collected by victims for many years. Goals of the investigation should include:
SUBJECT:
References: See Enclosure 1
Protecting Personnel from Electromagnetic Fields
1. PURPOSE. This Instruction:
a. Reissues DoD Instruction (DoDI) 6055.11 (Reference (a)) in accordance with the authority in DoD Directive (DoDD) 5134.01 (Reference (b)) and the guidance in DoDD 4715.1E (Reference (c)) to update policy, responsibilities, and procedures for protecting personnel from exposure to electromagnetic fields (EMFs) from 0 to 300 gigahertz (GHz).
b. Removes laser content, which is covered in DoDI 6055.15 (Reference (d)).
c. Establishes the DoD Transmitted EMF Radiation Protection (TERP) Working Group to provide technical guidance and recommend policy on EMF safety and health matters within the Department of Defense in accordance with DoDI 6055.1 (Reference (e)).
d. Establishes the DoD EMF Injury Hotline.
e. Expands guidance to include exposure to EMFs from 0 to 3 kilohertz (kHz) in accordance with the American National Standards Institute/Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) C95.6-2002 (Reference (f)).
2. APPLICABILITY. This Instruction:
a. Applies to the OSD, the Military Departments, the Office of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Joint Staff, the Combatant Commands, the Office of the Inspector General of the Department of Defense, the Defense Agencies, the DoD Field Activities, and all other organizational entities in the Department of Defense (hereafter referred to collectively as the “DoD Components”).
b. Applies to DoD operations, activities, and installations worldwide, including Government- owned, contractor-operated facilities and non-DoD activities operating on DoD installations.

c. Does not apply to patients exposed to EMFs as part of a diagnostic or therapeutic medical or dental treatment.
d. Does not apply to potential or suspected adverse health effects in persons with implanted electronic medical devices (such as pacemakers), metal implants (such as orthopedic appliances), or stents, shunts, or wires attributable to EMF levels below the maximum permissible exposure (MPE). Exposures to these devices below the MPE are covered by Food and Drug Administration guidelines for each medical device.
3. DEFINITIONS. See Glossary.
4. POLICY. It is DoD policy, in accordance with Reference (c), to:
a. Protect DoD personnel from accidental death, injury, and occupational illness.
b. Protect the public from risk of death, injury, illness, or property damage because of DoD activities.
5. RESPONSIBLITIES. See Enclosure 2. 6. PROCEDURES. See Enclosure 3.
7. RELEASABILITY. UNLIMITED. This Instruction is approved for public release and is available on the Internet from the DoD Issuances Web Site at www.dtic.mil...
8. EFFECTIVE DATE. This Instruction is effective immediately.
Enclosures
1. References
2. Responsibilities
3. Procedures
4. DoD TERP Working Group Functions Glossary
DoDI 6055.11, August 19, 2009
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Abstract
Applied science may once again play a decisive role in changing the face of armed conflict, and the rest of human affairs, by shifting the battlefield to our very brains. The national-security establishment--and particularly the Pentagon's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA)--supports research at the intersection of neuroscience and national security that could ultimately enable authorities to do things like enhance (or muddle, or erase) memory, monitor crowds for individuals whose brain patterns correlate with aggressive behaviors, or control weapons from afar merely with thoughts. What are the dangers of such information falling into "the wrong hands," and are there any "right hands" for this kind of knowledge? Is any extension of human abilities justified by the need for government to protect its society?
reply to post by Hefficide
This is not a judgment at all, even if it might read like one. The point I am trying to make is that addressing the most likely root causes first - and eliminating them as possibilities - is the rational method of discovering what is to blame. A CAT scan, a full neurological work up, blood tests, and psychiatric evaluations would be necessary just to begin to isolate potential causes. Once that was done then the process of trial and error for the treatment of symptoms could begin.
REFERENCES ................................................................................................................................4 RESPONSIBILITIES ......................................................................................................................5
UNDER SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FOR ACQUISITION, TECHNOLOGY,
AND LOGISTICS (USD(AT&L)) ......................................................................................5
DEPUTY UNDER SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FOR INSTALLATIONS AND ENVIRONMENT (DUSD(I&E)) ........................................................................................5 HEADS OF THE DoD COMPONENTS ..................................................................................5 SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE........................................................................................6
PROCEDURES................................................................................................................................7
MPE LIMITS.............................................................................................................................7 EVALUATION..........................................................................................................................7 Measurement and Evaluation of EMFs................................................................................7 Records Maintenance...........................................................................................................7 Multiple Emitters .................................................................................................................8 Inventory ..............................................................................................................................8 CONTROLS ..............................................................................................................................8 Action Level.........................................................................................................................8 EMF Warning Signs ............................................................................................................8 Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) .................................................................................8 TRAINING ................................................................................................................................9 MISHAPS ..................................................................................................................................9
DoD TERP WORKING GROUP FUNCTIONS...........................................................................11
GLOSSARY ..................................................................................................................................12
ABBREVIATIONS AND ACRONYMS................................................................................12 DEFINITIONS.........................................................................................................................12
DoDI 6055.11, August 19, 2009
Originally posted by tony9802
Originally posted by Grimpachi
Cop tazer s will not work you need to ask a healthcare professional to give you electroshock treatments specifically for the implants and they should help you out.
My understanding is that Neodymium magnets can work, otherwise there are jammers, such as professional bug jammers that can work as well, but I'm still doing research on these devices.. Some of them can be costly, but well worth it.edit on 9-8-2013 by tony9802 because: (no reason given)