Domestic Spying Is Dangerous to Freedom - Judge Andrew Napolitano

I read this over several times to be sure that I was posting in the correct Forum, and was assured that I am indeed in the right Forum - "Posse Comitatus: This forum is dedicated to the discussion of conspiracies, scandals, and cover-ups related to the militarization of police forces throughout the world, the NSA spying scandal, and the war on drugs"


Domestic Spying Is Dangerous to Freedom - Judge Andrew Napolitano
DHS, the DoJ, the DoD, the DEA, the CIA, the IRS, and the FBI are all in on it.

This is my first thread, and I am proud to say that it deals with the heroic efforts of one great brave man in his relentless efforts to set things aright in this great nation of ours.

Andrew Napolitano, defender of liberty and freedom extraordinaire was a former judge of the Superior Court of New Jersey, is the senior judicial analyst at Fox News Channel. Judge Napolitano has written seven books on the U.S. Constitution. The most recent is Theodore and Woodrow: How Two American Presidents Destroyed Constitutional Freedom.

Imagine if he were asked to be on the Supreme Court, or as the Attorney General of the United States - or better yet - the highest office in the land. Senator or Congressman wouldn't do justice to his judicial knowledge and to his genius as regards the the Constitution. Imagine what a great president he would make. I am absolutely certain that he would get the nation back on its right and proper course as the Founders had originally intended - this by means of strict adherence to, and proper implementation of the Constitution; the Bill of Rights, and the Declaration of Independence.

Opening remarks

How is it that the government can charge Edward Snowden with espionage for telling a journalist that the feds have been spying on all Americans and many of our allies, but the NSA itself, in a public relations campaign intended to win support for its lawlessness, can reveal secrets and do so with impunity? That question goes to the heart of the rule of law in a free society.
Since Snowden's June 6th revelations about massive NSA spying, we have learned that all Americans who communicate via telephone or the Internet (who doesn't?) have had all of their communications swept up by the federal government for two-plus years. The government initially claimed that the NSA has gathered only telephone numbers and billing data. Now we know that the NSA has captured and stored the content of trillions of telephone conversations, texts and emails, and can access that content at the press of a few computer keys. All of this happened in the dark, with the permission of President Obama, with the knowledge and consent of fewer than 20 members of Congress who were forbidden from doing anything about it by the laws they themselves had written, and based on secret legal arguments accepted by a secret court that keeps its records secret even from the judges who sit on the court.
This massive spying -- metadata gathering, as the NSA calls it -- was also done notwithstanding statements NSA officials made in public under oath and in secret classified briefings to Congress, which effectively denied it. The denials were in one case admitted to -- "least untruthful," as the director of national intelligence later called his own testimony. Then, when even members of Congress who usually support a muscular national security apparatus realized that they, too, had been lied to by the NSA, the NSA responded with its own leaks.

When you have the power to extort people in the legislative and judicial branch the whole thing can become illegitimate very quickly. When banks can call someone in the FBI who can then call the IRS or DEA and target the squeaky wheels, what we have starts to resemble the old East Germany. Remember them?

The US as a Constitutional Republic is a myth.

reply to post by InverseLookingGlass


Well, the government gets its legitimacy from the people. So if it isn't doing that, it has to spend a lot of resources covering it up, and it's a weak point. I think our government wants to transition to military legitimacy, well, I think Obama does, but no one is realizing it.

Originally posted by darkbake
reply to post by InverseLookingGlass

 

Well, the government gets its legitimacy from the people. So if it isn't doing that, it has to spend a lot of resources covering it up, and it's a weak point. I think our government wants to transition to military legitimacy, well, I think Obama does, but no one is realizing it.

edit on 8-8-2013 by darkbake because: (no reason given)

The government acquires its legitimacy by and through the proper implementation of the 'rule of law' as handed to the 'people' in the form of the Constitution - the Bill of Rights - the Declaration of Independence.

As for the remainder of your remarks - I have no idea what you are talking about so I'll let it go at that. I certianly don't want to seem impolite, but what you said about " transition to military legitimacy" and Obama's hand in it sounds like nonsense to me - if you'll pardon the expression, but I cannot think of any other term that would qualify.

reply to post by InverseLookingGlass

The US as a Constitutional Republic is a myth.

Only if we let it.

Only if we give up.

I will never except this idea. People are waking up.

And they are really pissed...