Man Sets Submarine on FIRE

reply to post by BO XIAN


Because she was in refit. She had enough crew on board to maintain the power systems, and that was about it. Most of the people around her were civilian workers, not crew who are trained to fight fires and other problems on the boat.

reply to post by teachtaire


You didn't answer my question why you chose those two specific words "best and brightest". And now you are confusing the industrial occupation of "painter" with one of the most celebrated artist in history.

Just admit you used that term because it is often added as a description of serving military personnel and you made the assumption because he was working on a military submarine he was a member of the military. Subsequent posts after your initial Post brought you to the realization that he was in fact a civilian and your incorrect snide remark now not only seems petty but also asinine to not have even read your own thread material thoroughly.

reply to post by ShadellacZumbrum


It was in dry-dock...most likely, if you are allowed to assume all fire-protection systems are on -- I can assume they were off, any automated systems were as I just said, off. All assumption though.

What pictures are you talking about? Care you share?!

Originally posted by ShadellacZumbrum
There isn't much in there that is flammable.

Paper used to mark off where they're painting. Seats used by the crew, some hoses, hydraulic fluid... There's a LOT on a submarine that is flammable. The most feared event on a sub is a fire, because if it's not put out almost immediately it can mean death for the entire crew.

There are fire fighting materials on board, but you have to have a crew to use them. There was a minimal crew on board because of the work being done.




That's an impressive fire.

reply to post by Carreau


Sorry, best and brightest meaning that you don't want stupid idiots who have a tendency for arson working on your super secret death machines of DOOMPACOLYPSE.

You want people that are GOOD MEN (the "best",) who won't stab you in the back.

And you want people that are bright, because they need to be alert and clever enough to realize they're working on a bloody SUBMARINE and even if they're only scrubbing the walls, a single espionage agent could get everyone killed.

As to the celebrated artist thing... most painters that I know (industrial or otherwise,) are actually decent artists in their own right as well. Besides, just look at modern art, a pile of doo doo counts as having "artistic merit" nowadays. I'll admit that I was stretching on that one.

Basically, I don't think that peoples careers or job is a good measure of how much potential they have. Your wording seemed to imply that industrial painters aren't known for their intellect, and I don't agree with that.


Nothing to do with me repeating the military line of "blahblahblah" my statement was purely in regards to sabotage/espionage and counterintelligence.

If you don't think the work crew for painting deserves scrutiny for a sub, you must know something I don't. I could see how who paints a fence wouldn't matter, but the interior of a submarine is different. That is a very sensitive location.

You could have someone paint a fire accelerant throughout the whole damn place and then you'd be in deep #.

Or you could have someone plant a tracking device which would give away drop zones and other sensitive information.

Do those guys "need" to be the best and brightest?

No.

You could be a quadriplegic pole dancer for all I care.

Originally posted by teachtaire
Your wording seemed to imply that industrial painters aren't known for their intellect, and I don't agree with that.

Dumbass Sets Submarine on FIRE

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reply to post by teachtaire


Shipyard workers don't have to be the best and brightest. All the work they do is gone over with a fine tooth comb by navy inspectors before the boats go back out in the water. And during trials after major work, some of the shipyard workers are on the boat with them.

reply to post by ownbestenemy


Inside a Submarine


As you can see in the pictures, Everything is steel with the exception copper cables which has Halogen in the cloth that is flame retardant. As well as all pipes are either steel or covered with flame retardant fabric.

Though there are a couple of pictures that shows some wood in the crew cabins.

Like I mentioned about the fire suppression system. That would have been immediate even at dry dock. They are going to maintain minimum power to keep the safety systems up.

reply to post by ShadellacZumbrum


It was a 20 month refit. There were exposed wires, and other components all over the ship, besides the paint, paint thinner, paper for painting, etc. She entered drydock on 1 March, and the fire happened in May. There was plenty to burn by then.

Look guys, I know you don't "have" to be anything.

But look what happens when a dumbass gets hired.

A very expensive comedy show.

Sabotage is very real.

Heck, the security guards at bases are a prime example of this. Which, is where I need to stop talking.

$400 million in restitution ! ! ! ! !

Good luck paying that back.

Yeah I can agree with the thread title.

reply to post by ShadellacZumbrum


I will have to disagree , I work on them everyday . The reason this idiot started the fire was so he could go see his girlfriend . They were having issues and he was told he could not go home , he needed to finish his shift . The worst part is now it will be recycled after millions were spent on repairs . And the word we got at work was that he was a federal employee not a contractor . Did you know this fire got so hot it melted the acoustic tile on the hull , it was dripping off . And these tiles are really thick ! Well that's all I have to say , so go take a tour of a modern 688 class boat .

....... The question becomes. How many nukes are missing from the sub......

This is how the cabal steal nukes. Whops sub fire. :/ Same story different day.

reply to post by Ex_CT2


Not all Ohio Class boats are armed with nukes , the SSGN conversion took care of that .

reply to post by letseeit7


melted tile?

Sounds like a flame accelerant to me.

Walks like a duck.
Talks like a duck.
Acts like a duck.
Smells like a duck.
Poops like a duck.
It is a duck.

This is like something out of James Bond 007.

And the funny thing is, he will probably get a lighter sentence because Americans are too brainwashed to see espionage right in front of them.

"I didn't want to work so I lit the submarine on fire."

Yeah right.

Ah well, file for bankruptcy now and go to jail. By the time the dude's out, he'll not only owe nothing but he'll be a free man and his credit will be cleared too. Talk about stupid but I guess it's not as stupid as having him ordered to pay $400million which is clearly impossible.

This right here is why going to Mars is an absolutely terrible idea until we've mastered psychology.

reply to post by Mandrakerealmz


An LA doesn't normally carry them, and it sure as hell doesn't carry them three months into a dry dock period.

reply to post by teachtaire


Doesn't have to have anything. There was acetone, and paint in the area the fire was started.

reply to post by Zaphod58

Fair enough, There's been a few times where Nuclear attack subs caught fire and in the chaos some of the warheads go missing. Kursk attack sub.