E-Cigs and side effects?

Hello ATS.

I recently bought a E-Cig for the first time, it seems to be working. I smoked Marlboro Reds and Lights for a long time.

Are there any side effects to these things that we are aware of? I know this is a new fad and all, and I'm sure there isn't much know about them yet.

I know it's ironic to for a smoker to ask about side effects considering the effects of actually smoking a real cig.

It just seems like e-cigs have a waaay higher dosage of nicotine then a actual cig. (Maybe thats because the tobacco companies knew what they were doing and put a low dose in so you would buy more?)

Just curious if anyone has had any weird side effects from these things.

Cheers!

-SAP-

reply to post by SloAnPainful


I always figured inhaling water can't really be good for you... but im sure inhaling hot smoke is much worse...

I could be wrong

reply to post by Akragon


Right, but I was looking at the liquid paste thats in the e-cig. Who knows what they could put in there, not like the crap in a tabacco filter is any better, I was just curious if anyone had anything happen...

-SAP-

There was a thread a few weeks back detailing some of the bad side effects, cant remember its title, but yes, as far as I can remember they may be worse than the tobacco!

Tobacco comes in many forms. That stuff inside ready made cigs certainly does not resemble what we see in roll your own tobacco. For a start its full of chemicals that make it stay alight etc.
I roll my own and so far!!! I have no ill effects, yet people who I see that smoke ready made cigs are coughing their lungs out every morning.

I have been using an Ego-C Twist for over a month now. From the day I got mine in the mail and started using it, I have had perhaps 3 cigarettes.

Now, if there are some negative side effects of the e-cigs, it's most certainly less dangerous than the tobacco could ever be lol

One thing to bear in mind... Though the amount of nicotine in the e-cigs may be LISTED as higher, it enters the bloodstream in a MUCH different way than smoked tobacco does. It enters more through the mouth than the lungs, as opposed to tobacco smoke. The amount you actually get into your bloodstream is much less than what the "per hit" would seem to be.

As to side effects of quitting tobacco and starting e-cigs, there's a really good amount of info at this link : Effects of Tobacco Cessation and E-Cigarettes

That was a great help for me when I started it all.

I wish you luck with it. It's a big change, but, to me, it has been WELL worth doing. Got myself, my mom and my brother all doing it, and these are all 30+ year smokers coming from 1.5+ packs a day habits. All of us have switched right over to the e-cigs without hesitation and we feel MUCH healthier, can smell again, taste again, breathe perfectly fine, etc.



Oh, to the poster above talking about the water vapor not being healthy... It's actually not entirely water vapor. the e-liquids are primarily propylene glycol, vegetable glycerine, nicotine and flavoring. That's it.

Other than the nic and flavors, the vapor that comes out is essentially the same thing they use at concerts and such to make the fog effects. No one cries foul at that, do they?

Originally posted by VoidHawk
For a start its full of chemicals that make it stay alight etc.
I roll my own and so far!!! I have no ill effects, yet people who I see that smoke ready made cigs are coughing their lungs out every morning.

Are you talking about electronic cigarettes here? Cause there's absolutely nothing in the e-liquids that is lit on fire.

Just making sure of what you're referring to here. I came to e-cigs from rolling my own, after having smoked store-bought's for over 30 years, and I have had ZERO side effects from my e-cigarette, in any way. And I have been at it for over a month. Was able to quit the tobacco cold the first day thanks to it.

Thanks all. I feel content now.

The e-cig seems to be working very well.



-SAP-

I'll wait about forty years before switching over, just incase they recall the e-cigs for health problems. I think waiting till I am a hundred and seven before I start will help with the transition.

Originally posted by Jomina
Are you talking about electronic cigarettes here? Cause there's absolutely nothing in the e-liquids that is lit on fire.

To be honest I dont know. I just remember reading a thread concerning cigy substitutes. I know it placed flags in my mind though.
I'll see if the search can find it for us...

People who smoke are delusional.

Take it from someone who smoked a pack a day for thirty five years. Very rare to survive that long, even harder to quit. Looking back on it now, what must I have been thinking.

Its not that bad a brand.

I don't smoke that much.

I don't smoke as much as--

I haven't been smoking for that long.

Its how you smoke that makes the difference.

I know an uncle who is 80 and he still smokes.

I can quit anytime.

I'll quit if it does me any lasting harm.

I can quit for a while, "clean up" and then go back to it.

I don't smoke all the time.

I exercise to make up for it.

It makes me feel good.

Everybody does it.

reply to post by intrptr

40 years for me

Were not all delusional, some like myself do realise we are addicts!!

reply to post by VoidHawk


Agreed. I hate it with a passion. I hate the smell even... Why I do it is beyond me. Its really bad when I have a few drinks (which I'm trying to quit as well).

-SAP-

reply to post by Jomina


Well, the ATS search function is CRAP! It doesn't even list the date of what it finds.

What I did notice though was a few threads pointing out that the tobacco industry is being hurt by these devices, and therefore what I saw may have been BS pumped out by them, so I'll reserve judgment until I've found more info.

Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by VoidHawk

 

Agreed. I hate it with a passion. I hate the smell even... Why I do it is beyond me. Its really bad when I have a few drinks (which I'm trying to quit as well).

-SAP-

You know, its extremely rare for me to drink alcohol. I just dont like what it does to my head
However, for me its a simple cup of tea that causes 99% of my smoking, and thats a problem because I'm addicted to tea too
The moment I put a cup of tea to my lips that urge to light up hits me.

Maybe I should look a little closer at these e-cigs

reply to post by VoidHawk

40 years for me

Ouch. How them lungs?

Were not all delusional, some like myself do realise we are addicts!!

Whats the dif?

The Patch...

Originally posted by VoidHawk
There was a thread a few weeks back detailing some of the bad side effects, cant remember its title, but yes, as far as I can remember they may be worse than the tobacco!

Tobacco comes in many forms. That stuff inside ready made cigs certainly does not resemble what we see in roll your own tobacco. For a start its full of chemicals that make it stay alight etc.
I roll my own and so far!!! I have no ill effects, yet people who I see that smoke ready made cigs are coughing their lungs out every morning.

-- edit, I just re-read that you said ready made, not e-cigs. the rest of this post can be ignored or read for a 30 second time waster if someone chooses. Gah, must be time for more carcinogen caffeine.

--

The stuff in the e-cig is pure nicotine and propylene glycol which in comparison to anything else you incinerate and inhale, is non-toxic. If you were to eat it, it would be almost impossible to suffer adverse affects. The nicotine is a poison, however. Yet in this pure form, it is all you are inhaling, and as such, yo are not inhaling any of the plethora of toxic particles that you actually burn when you light a cigarette.

Tobacco is an organic material. Taylor made smokes are treated with an entire chemist set of things to enhance flavour, smoke quality, the way it burns.. it's full of carcinogens that when burnt are what cause most of the issues associated with smoking tobacco.

E-cigs are vaporised. The stuff is not burnt. You are inhaling pure nicotine vapour and water vapour. With the addition of any flavourings you include.

They are far more safer to you than burning any plant material.

Roll your own cigs are only slightly better than taylor mades. Shisha tobacco is even safer, as you again only inhale the vapour and do not burn the plant material.

Anything you inhale that is not clean air is bad for you. Life, it's a terminal illness.

But at least, learn what does what so you're not jumping over puddles into the ocean.

reply to post by winofiend

You know, its extremely rare for me to drink alcohol.

This ^^^ is why you've just chased me as soon as you logged on isn't it!!

You cant deny it, we can all see by the name you use that it would rattle your cage

reply to post by SloAnPainful


Do you know that the chemical in cigarettes which does the damage is not usually the nicotine? Although nicotine is one of the most poisonous chemicals on the face of the Earth.

But they also contain:

Tar
Benzene
Arsenic
Cadmium
Formaldehyde
Polonium-210
Chromium
Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons
Nitrosamines
Acrolein

All of these are linked to cancer, and one of them is highly radioactive (probably no need to explain which it is), and Acrolein used to be a component of chemical weapons! They also contain a "laundry list" of poisonous materials.

These include:

Hydrogen cyanide,
Carbon monoxide,
Nitrogen oxides
Amonia

...and much more!

The idea behind the e-cig is that by cutting down the amount of other chemicals entering the body, which reduces the risk of cancer by a considerable margin (no doubt thanks to the removal of radioactive isotopes from the chemical inload to the body, apart from anything else).

Myself, I smoke Golden Virginia, which is a hand rolling tobacco. Seems to me that the fact that hand rolling tobacco, largely speaking, is less messed about with than the dried out crap you get in a regular cigarette, means that one is not throwing quite as much mess down ones neck as one might if smoking some of the other deathstick varieties out there.

See, regular cigarettes contain, as well as the other things I have already mentioned, various chemicals whose sole purpose is to make the cigarette burn faster, thus increasing the number one smokes. One breathes in quite a substantial amount of accelerants in a manner of speaking, as a result.

Now, e-cigs do not burn, and do not contain a vast number of unecessary chemicals and compounds. I personally wouldnt bother with them. I do not want to live for ever. I used to have asthma until I began to smoke rolling tobacco, used to be useless. Couldnt walk more than a hundred feet, couldnt go out in the cold, couldnt go out when the pollen count was high...

I would rather live to the fullest now, and maybe not live as long, than live a long life, addicted to asthma drugs instead, which never really worked for me.

Your experience with electronic cigs will vary based on the brand and type of eliquid you are using.

My first round with ecigs was a cheap brand. I won't mention brand names, but it tasted funky and didn't really work out for me.

I did a little bit of searching online, and found a better brand of ecig. The flavors were amazing and the battery worked to the point where it felt like i was almost smoking a real cig.

The latest step I have done is get eliquid by itself, and adding it to blank carts. This is the best option as you can mix and match flavors.

Ever since switching to ecigs, my real cig intake has lowered dramatically. In this latest stage to improve my health, I haven't smoked a real cig in two days, and I am feeling great.

I know that ecigs are not better than full cessation, but it is definitely a step in the right direction.

a reply to: Akragon

A good quality e-liquid has NO water in it.