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Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by Itisnowagain
Dont believe me, but dont lie to me and yourself if I am able to prove you wrong.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by Itisnowagain
Oh, you must have missed the rest of my reply?
Let me know if you need me to copy and paste it into this reply for you.edit on 8-8-2013 by ImaFungi because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by Itisnowagain
You are wrong, arising in wrongness
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by Itisnowagain
Dont believe me, but dont lie to me and yourself if I am able to prove you wrong.
Are you going to prove what I write is wrong?
Originally posted by ImaFungi
You have to understand that there are no things, or nouns.
But where I claim you are wrong, is if by this statement you meant to discredit an objective existence of 'man'.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
"Man possesses consciousness, and creates concepts about himself and other men"? What did you mean by that statement?
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by ImaFungi
"Man possesses consciousness, and creates concepts about himself and other men"? What did you mean by that statement?
Man is a concept that arises in consciousness.
There is only consciousness and man is an idea that consciousness has.
Man does not possess consciousness.
Man is the story consciousness spins out.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by ImaFungi
"Man possesses consciousness, and creates concepts about himself and other men"? What did you mean by that statement?
Man is a concept that arises in consciousness.
There is only consciousness and man is an idea that consciousness has.
Man does not possess consciousness.
Man is the story consciousness spins out.
A man exists. A man gets knocked unconscious and falls into a coma. Does that man exist? Is that man only an idea? That I can view, and study, and poke, and interact with?
you say "Man is the story consciousness spins out"... So when I choose to do something, what am I? What is making the choice?
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by Itisnowagain
Truth is a perspective of the world.
Is it true?
To know how true it is, it must be looked at from many perspectives.
Those perspective are how we are conscious of the truth.
The world does not come to you and tell you what is truth.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by BDBinc
The world does not come to you and tell you what is truth.
Exactly, you have to seek out the truth.
You must make the effort to look for the truth, and that means collecting many perspectives.
Learning the truth is a building project that requires looking at things from many angles.
The real truth is that nobody really knows the truth, it is far more complex, for greater than our ability to understand. At best we develop a close relationship with the truth, that enables us to successfully navigate through this world.
No, we can not trust the perspectives of others. We can not trust our own perspectives, because we must always consider our degree of uncertainty.