Cop Arrested for Beating Child Rapist, Good Cop or Bad Cop?

I #ing hate Pedo's. But no cop has the right to issue a beating. Let him get a trail and then beat him senseless right before you take him out back and shoot him.

reply to post by neo96


Sometimes a parent must take things into their own hand. Proud of my fellow Texans

Jesus Mora Flores was beaten to death on June 9 in Shiner, Texas, after the 23-year-old father allegedly discovered the 47-year-old Flores in a pasture on the family's ranch on top of his 5-year-old daughter with his pants and underwear down. (News organizations, including Yahoo News, are not naming the father in order to protect the identity of his daughter.)

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reply to post by Grimpachi


Don't get me wrong, I empathize too and if this guy is found guilty, I wouldn't care if you tossed him naked to a pack of hungry rabid dogs face first.

It's just scary to me to think of massive amounts of Americans calling for lynchings in violations of other peoples guaranteed rights as citizens. What they are actually doing is giving the nod for their own rights to be violated in the future, to me at least, it doesn't seem prudent.

Originally posted by Sharingan
reply to post by neo96

 

Sometimes a parent must take things into their own hand. Proud of my fellow Texans

Jesus Mora Flores was beaten to death on June 9 in Shiner, Texas, after the 23-year-old father allegedly discovered the 47-year-old Flores in a pasture on the family's ranch on top of his 5-year-old daughter with his pants and underwear down. (News organizations, including Yahoo News, are not naming the father in order to protect the identity of his daughter.)

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I see i have to make a correction here:

Within a certain limit clearly murdering is not acceptable.

Not proud of that.

reply to post by tanda7


Hes not a bad cop, he did the human thing. He did break police procedures however so I hope the context of the situation is considered when is reprimanded. The child rapist got every thing he deserved.

reply to post by neo96


The cops, the DA and a Grand Jury disagreed.
What if the father had a gun and he walked up and saw a naked man assaulting his very young daughter?
If that were your daughter, wouldnt you believe that her life was in danger? I wouldve shot him but in this case, he had no gun so he used his fists
In most states, this is justifiable homicide. I wouldve done the same thing.

The sheriff says that 19-year old Raymond Robison (above) "was engaging in sexual acts with a juvenile" when a family member of the victim walked in a witnessed the rape of the little boy.

If this had been my boy being raped...well lets just say there would be no need to call the police. This pedophile would be in need of other services and they are not provided by the hospital.

He was caught in the act, there is no assumption of guilt, it's a fact, guilty. Where I live, he wouldn't be seeing his 20th birthday. Now all the bleeding hearts here can defend him and talk all kinds of BS of how he is innocent until proven guilty, he was caught in the act.

Should the cops deal out justice on their own, no. This can lead to all manor of abuse by the police. However, allowing the family to have their way with him while the cop goes and gets something and then takes him away, no problem. If asked what happened to him, the cop says I don't know I didn't see anything. There are places in this world where pedophiles are dealt with and there is no need for a list as there are no repeat offenders.

Originally posted by pstrron
He was caught in the act, there is no assumption of guilt, it's a fact, guilty.

Actually we dont know this.
All we have is a third hand account that the act was witnessed by a family member.
The cop didnt see it.

Do you think family members have ever lied to police before about various things, or made false accusations?

reply to post by alfa1

Do you think family members have ever lied to police before about various things, or made false accusations?

Sure, there are those that will make false accusations, however, rape of a child is a very serious accusation. Not saying that there are not any families that wouldn't resort to such a thing, I'm sure there are. In my neck of the woods that would be suicide of the family as they would be cut off from the community which has dire consequences. It's different here, we don't put up with such nonsense.

reply to post by tanda7


Promote the cop, execute the pedophile.

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by tanda7

 

Promote the cop, execute the pedophile.

Your heart is in the right place but you let your emotion usurp your logic. Advocating for the type of action you just endorsed is a fast track to allowing an already inept, fascist and ever growing totalitarian regime to continue to stomp out the rights of those you find offensive, disagree with or that you deem guilty by the virtue of no other evidence than that of a simple internet post. Soon after that, that action will extend too you and something you have done, or have been alleged too do.

If you truly care about America, if you claim to be a "patriot" as your avatar would suggest then please..... Ask yourself one question.......... Are other Americans rights null and void because the internet or tv made you have a knee jerk reaction because it played up on your emotions?

Deny ignorance. Realize the responsibility you have as an American and stay true to the guaranteed rights afforded by our Constitution and honor a persons right to due process. Be the change you wan't to see.

Originally posted by pstrron

Do you think family members have ever lied to police before about various things, or made false accusations?

Sure, there are those that will make false accusations, however, rape of a child is a very serious accusation.

Sure its a serious accusation, and what I'm saying is that the police bashing was handed out SOLELY on the basis of family testimony.

And there are many on this forum who are perfectly willing to kill, based on
- a users posting,
- of a media report,
- of a police report,
- of a family member's word.

reply to post by tanda7



Very say day indeed. I've read some of the posts in this thread.

Not very good.

A cop is not supposed to do that.

The sheriff says the cop allegedly hit the suspect after learning he was accused of molesting a child; handcuffed him, and hit him some more; put him in the police car, and continued to hit him; and then let a family member of the victim hit him.

What if it was you? Some one accused you and told a cop you did such and such and a cop beat you up and let others beat you up?

We have seen this happen many times.

Oh what if he INDEED did the crime? Still doesn't make it right. We would only lower our level to his.

We are way better than this.

reply to post by Domo1


Even this is a dubious response though. Your over-emotional state is hardly an excuse for adding to the child's trauma by beating their rapist to a pulp in front of them. Or would you be thinking reasonably enough to tell them to cover their ears and close their eyes?

This cop was completely out of line and should never have offered a family member the temptation to succumb to their primitive urges.

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by tanda7
... Raymond Robinson who is accused
Personally I think letting the family member get in a few shots was a nice touch.

And thats a slippery slope that no society should ever go down.
Beating up people *accused* of a crime? No way.

A Guy was beaten up in court because he Killed a kid in a Hit and Run , the Parents Flipped after hearing The Prosecution demanded 240 hours Community service , besides the vehiculair manslaughter he had 15 to 20 other reckless driving counts in a few months.

He got convicted to 7 months eventually .... for taking a kids life....

They are letting Murderers walk in my country , i Agree beating up supects is not smart , but in my country the law is on their side.

TheGreazel.

A Leo is not judge and jury no matter what. He should of kept the family member away from the accused and gave him and the victims the right to a fair trial. Now their is a chance of it being thrown out. Should of let nature take it's course. Guy rapes child, arrested, trial, prison, and let nature take it's course, they don't like pedophiles in prison. Or plan B guy catches pedophile raping child, guy shoots and kills pedophile. I'm a plan B type of guy.

reply to post by hillbilly4rent


Say the pedophile was your best friend or brother, who you had never previously thought capable of such behaviour? A slight moment of hesitation on the trigger?

Just curious and maybe I overlooked it but...how old was the "child" that was raped?

Originally posted by Blueracer
Just curious and maybe I overlooked it but...how old was the "child" that was raped?

Yeah, I had the same question, the article only says the other boy was a juvenile. For all we know the family member could have walked in on two gay teenagers, and the "victim" just happened to be underage. IDK, but it's not unheard of for someone to claim rape if they get caught doing something embarrassing.

Whatever happened the police need to follow the law even more then the average person, and hitting someone in hand cuffs is downright cowardly..

Originally posted by tanda7
James Dipuma arrested, then beat Raymond Robinson who is accused of raping a young boy.
He then allowed one of the victim's family members to beat Robinson while he was in cuffs.
www.wwl.com...

19 year old Raymond Robinson

Anytime the subject of punishing pedophiles is mentioned, most people have very draconian views, on the other hand, we don't pay cops to dole out punishment. Personally I think letting the family member get in a few shots was a nice touch.

What do you think ATSers?
As in the UK your not going to ever get crime low by this mummy cudling court stuff, that guy who raped or tried to rape wont ever dare do that again, simply because he will remember what he got, but without that being done he would rape anyone he got chance to get.

edit on 2-8-2013 by tanda7 because: punctuation