Rise Of The.....MEGA Corporations

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The big international corporations are already expanded into a 'global' atmosphere.

American & International Corporations In China

Look at the names .... very familiar.

The banks are also 'global'.

Many foreign banks (non-U.S.) actually own stock in Federal Reserve Banks because they have branches in the U.S. and are members of the Federal Reserve system.

Foreign Banking Organization (FBO) Supervision

The international central bank system is the NWO.

They've already done it.


The Federal Reserve is a complicated web of ownership.

This article gives a simple explanation....

Q: Who owns the Federal Reserve Bank?

A: There are actually 12 different Federal Reserve Banks around the country, and they are owned by big private banks. But the banks don’t necessarily run the show. Nationally, the Federal Reserve System is led by a Board of Governors whose seven members are appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate.

Federal Reserve Bank Ownership


Many people deny that 'foreign' ownership exists.

But it does through large banks from 'foreign' countries who own stock in Federal Reserve Banks.


Right from the horse's mouth;

Foreign banking institutions, which include foreign bank branches, agencies, and U.S.-chartered bank subsidiaries, hold approximately one-fourth of all commercial banking assets in the United States.

Foreign Banks and the Federal Reserve

in a capitalist society, corporations are given many opportunities to grow.
The governments job is to be the balance between corporate interests and the peoples interest.

Democracy does not work in a corporate oligarchy.


Whereas democracy is the stepping stone towards communism, capitalism is the stepping stone to corporate oligarchy. We have seen our democracy waning, (durned socialist Pelosi Obama etc etc ad infinitum) and of course within that void, capitalism rapidly converts to the aforementioned corp olig.

It really is a choice, because both unrestrained leads to disaster.
we can choose democracy (and inevitably will be difficult to tell a difference between communism and demo)
we can choose corp (and be locked into a servant role to board members we don't elect)
or we can demand a balance of two and try to define clear roles of both.

"Atlas Shrugged" isn't a novel to this administration, it's the operating manual.

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Whereas democracy is the stepping stone towards communism, capitalism is the stepping stone to corporate oligarchy. We have seen our democracy waning, (durned socialist Pelosi Obama etc etc ad infinitum) and of course within that void, capitalism rapidly converts to the aforementioned corp olig.

It really is a choice, because both unrestrained leads to disaster.
we can choose democracy (and inevitably will be difficult to tell a difference between communism and demo)
we can choose corp (and be locked into a servant role to board members we don't elect)
or we can demand a balance of two and try to define clear roles of both.

Good analysis.

But what would "WE" do to enforce the 'choice' ?

The international corporation cartel is the most powerful organization in world history.

Originally posted by xuenchen
Good analysis.

But what would "WE" do to enforce the 'choice' ?

The international corporation cartel is the most powerful organization in world history.

I don't know.
I don't see things changing. its too big. a flea asking how we stop a hurricane.

First time I learned about SERCO was in 2009 from this animation:

Youtube

From that time they are probably much bigger. Video is from some Australian series ... they did same for Google (and at least one other corp.) I was really surprised how large it became over just few years of existence. If somebody can pinpoint authors of the animation and other parts of series I would be very pleased.

Finally I found it. It is from Hungry beast series and it is really worth of study. Some of the videos - aka "beast files" - are accessible only from .au domain so put its name in search engine combined with "hungry beast" phrase.

Originally posted by jacobe001

Originally posted by olaru12
The Right wing, conservative, control freaks wet dream. All the while parroting the "freedom, less government, back to the Constitution" mantra; then handing the control to the corporations.

The Democratic Republic has been replaced by the Corporate Oligarchy.

Dystopian Nightmare is an appropriate description. I'm so glad I don't have any kids to experience this BS.

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We have separation of State and Religion to protect us from those that would go into office and impose their own religious views on everyone else.

We need separation of State, Big Banks and Multi National Corporations, because they are also going into office to kill the small business and entrepreneurs in order to impose their Globalist Corporate and Banking Model on this country and the whole world.

I have no doubt that the Police State we find ourselves in and the loss of our freedoms is all to give more control, power and wealth to these $$$Globalist Fascists$$$

But how can you believe that we have separation of state and religion unless you don't understand the true meaning of the word religion? You are taught religion is Christianity, Judaism and Islam and any cult deemed insane. You are specifically taught time after time that Hinduism, Buddhism and Freemasonry for example aren't religions. It's why you cannot see the occult architecture that swamps our nation, the phallus, the pentagrams, the statues, the political correctness etc Every corporate logo out there declares its allegiance. Religion is a system of man that furthers the belief of anything that it comes up with as dogma and teachings. Every time that this state is judging a belief or act or word to be acceptable or unacceptable, it is placing a moral or ethic code onto you. Please tell me what the difference is to the Bible declaring the Ten Commandments -Thou Shalt Not Murder. The state comes along and gives its population Do Not Murder but then gets around the letter of the law by declaring that unborn babies are not life and therefore are exempt from this commandment. Please tell me how this is any different than you starting up a religion of your own today? Religion is a set of beliefs developed by man which govern behaviour. How is the state therefore not religious? Everyday now we are witnessing the state do this as it makes it's proclamations that this is acceptable and that is unacceptable, that this is to be your child's belief and that is not, it forces your children to be taught evolution and not creation - That IS religion. So whilst it has you busy believing that religion was separated from your child as prayer to Jesus was removed, it's just substituting its own religious beliefs, the doctrines of men and the teachings of the elders. My friends child was just taught in school that men and men and women and women sexuality is "love is love". THAT is a moral code and ethic now foisted upon that child from a state that has defined its own religious code based. That is not separation of state and religion when you understand what religion is. Corporations are enforcers of government mandated religion. If the Freemasons on Capitol hill declare that there is a "third gender", it's fellow Freemasons and occultists as heads of those corporations start herding it's employees to stop using gender specific terms in letters, reports etc. Everything is done this - its no different than what Jesus Christ found in Judea - a population that couldn't recognise truth standing in front of them because their minds were so steeped in the traditions and teachings of the elders that they could no longer reason without coming up with a false conclusion.

Our state governments have declared everything illegal. They have declared that driving a car is illegal for everyone - Thou Shalt Not Drive an Automobile - unless you apply for a license to break their commandment. Our governments have declared Thou Shalt Not Fish or Hunt - unless you apply for a license to break that law. The state has issued the commandment Thou Shalt Not Marry - unless you apply for a license to break that commandment. Do you not understand that IT IS A RELIGION? You will not see it whilst you believe what the state and it's pulpit the media define as religion. It's how they accomplish everything without people realising what is happening. Today many are scratching their heads as these same governments are driving the news laws on sexuality, marriage and such. There has never been a separation of state and religion. The state institutes it's own.

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Corporate power is enabled in a number of ways, and mega corporations are always going to be bad for salaries in the long term - I will explain the impact on salaries further down in this response.

There are two main practical reasons why corporations have been able to increase in size so much, and one underlying reason.

The underlying reason for the growth in size of retail and manufacturing corporations is because existing financial corporations WANT to have large corporations, and have been facilitating the death of small business for many years. The financial corporations want retail and manufacturing consolidated into large corporations purely because those can be more easily controlled by financial interests. By buying all the bonds issued by a corporation, the financial entity can effectively hijack the retail or manufacturing giant, and assume control.

Now the practical reasons;

Firstly mega corps can indulge in labour arbitrage. That is they can do the labour intensive portion of their business in nations with low salaries. Small business cannot do this, and so the corporations are given a significant advantage.

The second, and primary reason is the increasing costs of govt tax rules, regulation and compliance with health and safety etc. Large corporations have more overhead, which makes them less efficient - but in a highly regulated environment, then all the extra accountants and lawyers are able to be deployed. The cost burden on small business of all this govt interference drives them out of business.


Now for the final impact on the average person, why we should not want mega corps.

Given the concentration of wealth and power, and the lack of accountability due to the legal description of a corporation we have a lot of reasons to be more than concerned. Probably the most egregious problem with corporations is that they are considered persons, legal fictions.

A corporation however is just a folder of papers, if it is sued or 'punished' by a legal ruling - it simply doesn't care, it won't 'learn its lesson' - it can't - its not human, it has no conscience. All kinds of criminal acts can be undertaken, and so long as the costs do not exceed the profits - then the corporation will continue to act illegally, and immorally.

Another very important reason is due to the impact on salaries, with the destruction of small business - salaries will always fall.

It is the existence of the marginal capitalist that drives up salaries, and determines the distribution of wealth between capital and labour. This concept is simple, but requires a little explanation.


The marginal capitalist is just a guy who decides to work for himself, maybe a lawn mower guy, maybe a lemonade stand. He uses a minimum of capital, and mostly his own labour, and maybe he hires some young people to help him out.

When this guy is making more money running his own business than he would earning a salary, then he keeps working for himself. By doing this, he removes himself from the labor market - and he also takes away business from corporations. His money is coming directly out of the pockets of the most wealthy, he is limiting the growth of large corporations.

Therefore if small business is healthy and competitive, large corporations lose profits and are kept in check. Additionally, the marginal capitalist is completely responsible for keeping salaries high. When he runs his business, he is removed from the labour market - which causes it to tighten - then whoever needs labour needs to offer him enough money to leave his small business and go to work for a salary.

in other words, the more small business you have the higher the average salary is going to be. This effect is critically important to keeping a balance in society between the wealth created by capital and the money you earn for labour.

It is purely small business that ensures a fair distribution of wealth between workers and businessmen - and govt regulation is destroying small business.

Expect lower salaries, more unemployment and greater disparity between rich and poor - all because of the govt killing off the small businessman.

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While we all sleepwalk through life everything that those "crazy conspiracy theorists" have been shouting about for so long is already here. Mega corporations that run entire countries. Companies that can cause entire countries to go bankrupt.

Secret meetings behind the scenes by secret powers that plan to take over the world. Scenes that could have been taken from a bad sci-fi movie. But it is and have been a reality for quite a while now.

It's like they say. If your gonna hide from the police, hide in the police station. Thats the last place they will look. Same thing here. Don't hide your intentions. Try to take over the entire world in the open and no one will react before it's too late.

The difference is that these companies don''t care at all for control or politics. They don't even want to control people. They just want profits. At any cost. That's why this type of almost NWO movement doesn't fit in with the old conspiracies. They don't want to implant chips in our bodies to control or restraint us. They want to track our shopping habits and our desires. As soon as you walk in to a starbucks or a McDonalds they want to know what you like from your Facebook likes. As soon as a president tries something that is against their interests, they will bash him in medias and let lobbyists harass him until he either resign or changes his mind.

Our ordinary weak political instruments have no chance against these structures. It doesn't matter who's president in the US or if EU is run by the left or the right side.

The problem is that if they don't succeed we will all suffer from it. If they go down, we all go down with them. Our economies is far to dependent on them.

By the time we are told we have emerged from "recession" I figure everything will have been privatized. The world is currently a capitalists wet dream.

Business Insider - "If Corps dont start paying their workers better, we may need unions"


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Originally posted by Amagnon

It is purely small business that ensures a fair distribution of wealth between workers and businessmen - and govt regulation is destroying small business.

Expect lower salaries, more unemployment and greater disparity between rich and poor - all because of the govt killing off the small businessman.

Excellent Post Amagon.

The most important thing I came away with from your post is that control and power in fewer and fewer hands, be it the Government or Multinational Corporations is never a good thing for society. Many small business as you rightly noted distribute the power and wealth among many as well as increased competition and innovation, just like the idea of the founding fathers to have 50 states to instead of one big one that would have all the power.

Originally posted by Damian65
We just haven't come to terms and acceptance of the fact that these mega corporations are calling all the shots. In time, when they realize that this or that works to their benefit....we will see changes.

I believe the word is fascism....but hey...i am just an educated idiot....what do I know.

The mega corporations back certain representaives and candidates....and 'we the people" get to choose from the candidates that they have decided on....broken system.

Oh well....our founding fathers knew this day would come. They warned and even gave means to "undo" it...but we are weak, stupid and poorly prepared....welcome to the end.....

Well this is an honest reply. Fascism is a good word I think.

Corporations are a powerful entity. Their narrow focus, which just happens to be profits for the corporation, is very effective. The founding fathers were concerned about corporations, and I believe The United States as a nation or America as a concept, is as much a flight from increasing corporatism in Europe, as it is a cry for independence.

Corporations by their very nature, thrive on the individual. and control of the individual is a primary goal of corporations.Corporations are effective. and provide many desirable comforts. Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on your viewpoint, they are assuming complete control of your existence The problem is, the focus while successful as to profits, often involves significant human collateral damage. We can go into the psychology of corporatism and how it promotes the psychopathic nature. and it does. But.

What are the remedies? I don't think there are remedies, and I think the best we can hope for is a slow play out of the future ahead.

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Now you know the true meaning of movies, to prepare us subconciously so we don't have to worry and this all looks normal. No wonder why the majority of the people don't even realise it is taking place.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
in a capitalist society, corporations are given many opportunities to grow.
The governments job is to be the balance between corporate interests and the peoples interest.

Democracy does not work in a corporate oligarchy.

Whereas democracy is the stepping stone towards communism, capitalism is the stepping stone to corporate oligarchy. We have seen our democracy waning, (durned socialist Pelosi Obama etc etc ad infinitum) and of course within that void, capitalism rapidly converts to the aforementioned corp olig.

It really is a choice, because both unrestrained leads to disaster.
we can choose democracy (and inevitably will be difficult to tell a difference between communism and demo)
we can choose corp (and be locked into a servant role to board members we don't elect)
or we can demand a balance of two and try to define clear roles of both.

If you have a look at my earlier post, I elucidate the role of govt in facilitating the rise of the mega corporation.

The govt should not have a role in balancing individual interest vs corporate interest at all, what it should do is get out of the way. Or more precisely, the people should limit and destroy the unwarranted power of govt, so that power cannot be purchased by powerful interests.

The main thing that govt can do is repeal regulation and legislation, this makes small business more effective than large corporations - and they will be forced to reduce in size. The other absolutely critical thing that must be done, is remove the legal definition as persons, also the legal indemnity introduces moral hazard - this then allows prosecutors a far easier time to target individuals inside the corporations who are driving criminal activity - only individuals respond to the fear of prosecution, corporations have no fear.

One more thing that needs to be done by govt, is to hire enough regulators and ensure enough internal audits and checks so they are not captured by the industries they are meant to be policing.

When their is a problem with fraud, ALL corporations will insist that the problem is not enough regulations, this is their standard response because more regulations actually benefit them. This will be the mantra that you will hear from MSM also. This is purely false.

The real reasons why fraud is so prevalent is because regulators have been captured by industry, they are offered lucrative jobs if they 'assist' corporations with compliance - rather than moving to prosecute. The other general reason is the lack of regulators in numbers and skills. We all know that so much of a nations wealth is now controlled by the corporate interests, lets say 90% - so if you are going to distribute police to control crime, why wouldn't you put the most police where the most wealth is concentrated - thats where you are going to see most of the big crime. This isn't the case - war on drugs and such nonsense takes the budget away from the white collar police - rendering them ineffective, and also lack of sufficient internal auditing allows them to be easily captured, becoming 'dirty cops' in the white collar crime industry.

Regarding the impact of political ideology on corporations, there are some obvious things that should be noted.

It is obvious, that if govt is controlled by a corporate oligarchy, then democracy is no longer functioning. You also assert that democracy is a stepping stone to communism, and capitalism is a stepping stone to corporatism (fascism) and suggest that the trend is more or less inevitable, and that some balance of the two is the desired outcome.

While I agree you have identified the correct possible trends, I think there are a couple of logical flaws. Firstly that the choice is somehow limited by these two idea's - and secondly that some degree of corporatism is in anyway desirable.

Neither corporatism or democracy are in any way desirable as a method of governing. Democracy is desirable only in creating and maintaining a legal structure, but a nation should be ruled by law, not by men. This is a fundamental idea postulated by the US constitution.

Corporatism (fascism) is not desirable in any form, because the controllers of corporations are men - and this suggests a ruling elite.

So the heart of the problem is that law, the legal process and the creation of law have been usurped and lies not in an independent group who work for the benefit of the people, but for the benefit of a small group of men.

Originally posted by olaru12
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How you can compare Marx who was a Socialist with Capitalism/corporate fascism run amok is beyond ludicrous.


www.econlib.org...

:www.brill.com...

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Marx's work contains all the background. Socialism-Capitalism and all other isms are all part of the ''orthodox'' view of right - left - centre. Marx's own ideology doesn't count, he didn't describe only his beliefs. He analysed the whole thing, he gave out the manual.

In my own opinion though the whole right-left-centre axis is such a primitive way of perceiving things, even for late 1800s.

The focal point of any system, political, economical, societal should be mankind, humans and our needs. Self-determination on a mass scale. This could only be achieved through Direct Democracy though. But i see nobody talking about these kinds of concepts.

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Great post. Thanks. As it happens, some of my favorite sci-fi writers actually worked in policy and development, and some of the best works are what's called a 'scenario' or 'worst case scenario.' ...Scenario development involves looking at an action's implications and asking, "Where might this lead?" Lots of disciplines rely on such analysis to inform their activities - from lawmakers to social engineers.

...It was all predictable and as many think, probably planned.


S&F&

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Hi Xuechen, I've read your posts with great interest. From what I can gather, any political movement ending with 'ism was created by 'them', 'them' being the hidden hand behind mankind's history, guiding world events, revolutions and wars, all on the path to a NWO.

I started a thread a few months back about a theory I had, would love to hear your opinion on its plausability-

The past 100 years has been an experiment?

The premise is that since the banking elite gained full control over America with the Federal Reserve System, the world saw the acceleration of a world wide social experiment, Communism emerged and we have seen how societies function under both covert and overt control, with the controllers testing and fine tuning their methods for their planned NWO.

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You are hitting the nails square on the heads

I will read your thread.

Thanks !