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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by The GUT
Not much in there about mind control.
Except that speculative bit about the possibility of projecting "voices". Spoooooky.
No. But then, I'm not making any claims. I'm discussing the information in the OP.
I'm providing documents, are you?
Originally posted by Phage
I mean that you would have to have line of sight to your "victim" to use the microwave hearing trick (if it would work over any significant distance). I mean that there are better ways to make someone think they're going nuts if that's what you're intent is.
No. But then, I'm not making any claims. I'm discussing the information in the OP.
The Army’s very strange webpage on "Voice-to-Skull" weapons has been removed. It was strange it was there, and it’s even stranger it’s gone. If you Google it, you’ll see the entry for "Voice-to-Skull device," but, if you click on the website, the link is dead.
The entry, still available on the Federation of American Scientists‘ website reads:
Nonlethal weapon which includes (1) a neuro-electromagnetic device which uses microwave transmission of sound into the skull of persons or animals by way of pulse-modulated microwave radiation; and (2) a silent sound device which can transmit sound into the skull of person or animals. NOTE: The sound modulation may be voice or audio subliminal messages. One application of V2K is use as an electronic scarecrow to frighten birds in the vicinity of airports.
I assume that is a rethorical question.
One thing I'm quite sure you would agree on: Science and Technology advances, no?
Such as? What is it I have said for which you would expect some documentation?
Yes you are making claims. Many of them.
The subject matter is the research proposal about the physiological study of the effects of narrative. Yes, I have stated some of my opinions about that proposal.
Alas, they are in the form of opinions separated from any apparent or significant research into the subject matter.
Why u no open mind?
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Eidolon23
Can you point out where I have expressed any patriotism in this thread?
Can you point out where I have said there is no chance the research could be used for "devious" purposes?
A few people are having a rational discussion here. Why don't you try it? It's good for the brain.
Originally posted by Phage
Why do you keep trying to make the discussion about me?
...we may not even have the ethical concepts to encompass the possible uses of this technology, which sounds like something out of Ramez Naam's novel Nexus. It also sounds incredibly disturbing. Are we opening the door to new vistas in human cruelty, or new avenues of communication between species? Hopefully our ethical development will outpace the development of this technology.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by WhiteAlice
But. But. Didn't you just say it's unlikely to work?
I'm just saying that it is possible, maybe not now, but maybe soon. Also, that you'd only need to equip 1/1000 devices w/ it to get a good sample.
Radiation is obviously not the same as EMF, but you can use radioactive material (even something as simple as a Na/H2O reaction, wouldn't even need the isotopes), and extract and direct the energy. Unfortunately, yeah, you'd have to shield the hell out of it (20 lb, for sure), but they're doing some cool stuff with super-light ceramics.
Or, you could contain that field within another field, generated, say by the output of the laptop's primary functions.
And the sensory apparatus, if you'll pardon my 19th cent. vernacular (we can also call it the pick-up and amplification software), could be developed to compensate for the loss on the magnet. As long as the readings, however faint, were isolated by way of effective shielding, it's sort of possible.
The cheapest components I can come up with are sodium and water, and some kind of clever engineering, but... I can't bring the math to it.
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