Custodians of the Plan to Kill all Who Won't Evolve

Originally posted by randyvs

You assume to much. I have never belonged to a church or any affiliation I really
don't like religion. But I love Jesus Christ. Can't help it I do. He's my hero.
I'll stop.

I had to star you. By not affiliating yourself with the church you're actually closer following Christ's teachings than most. You've earned my respect.

reply to post by UnifiedSerenity


what i found interesting was how he provided proof that the leaders don't actually believe the religion. they use it for various nefarious purposes, mostly relating to power and wealth, otherwise, they view it like any atheist would -- fairy tales. now one or two things is possible here: 1) it really is fairy tales or 2) they highjacked it and then used it as a patsy to blame things on, and being literally untouchable themselves, let the every day man or woman take the blame for the whole thing. either way, it doth sucketh the raw tomato

Originally posted by undo
here you go.

Simply Brilliant. Feel free to share any salient videos that you like. I love the issue of seeing who is the exception to the rule.... In America, Congress always exempts themselves from the laws they pass for the people they are supposedly representing. Shouldn't they be the first in line for their wonderful new law?

Edit to stay on topic.... I see this applying because with the NWO / New Age religion they are focusing a judgment against Christians and putting themselves above others freedoms.

reply to post by Garkiniss


nice straw man. you didn't answer the question. you diverted it down a totally different stream.
i like you so i won't continue this conversation out of concern for hurting your feelings by my completely
irritated position on this subject.

reply to post by undo



I'll attempt again. You wrote...

Originally posted by undo
if you watched the video, and recall the question he asked "who gets to ignore the rules?" and his response to his own question, "it will always be those in power"

To which I responded:

"Power is an illusion. Wealth is an illusion. Fear is an illusion. Illusions fueled by those who accept them."

You continued with...

i would just like to know, when i was put in power so i could be held accountable for the actions of rulers who had the same exact beliefs as mine. This should be good.

And I thought I answered that with:

"The only real power in this world lies in numbers."

Meaning; you/we've always been in power. The fact that you believe this world has "Rulers" is what gives them their power.

there's nothing wrong with being religious.

what's wrong is when it's used as a weapon.

the foundation of all religions is the golden rule.. ie. do unto others as you would like them to do unto you, because if you don't then bad things will happen.

people always seem to forget that.

reply to post by tachyonmind


The Ethic of Reciprocity. Exactly.

reply to post by Garkiniss


and that wasn't the point. the point i made was addressing your request that we rein in our fellow christians. now i dunno about you, but last time i looked there were as many different kinds of christians as there are different kinds of atheists, so that's an order that can't be fulfilled. secondly, you do not want there to be an universal church upon which others can make demands, because that will eat us all alive. last time we had one coordinated religion, inflicted by force of arms, it was hell on earth. shudder. you don't want to wish that on anybody, even those you disagree with otherwise.

new world order + one world religion = anybody seen that transport to a different galaxy!? you do not want to be on the planet when that happens, take my word on this.

thirdly, the leaders are the ones calling the shots. you can ask them to stop but you maybe didn't realize that the holy roman empire was also the government. you didn't know that, apparently.

Originally posted by undo

and that wasn't the point. the point i made was addressing your request that we rein in our fellow christians. now i dunno about you, but last time i looked there were as many different kinds of christians as there are different kinds of atheists, so that's an order that can't be fulfilled.

Why not? Catholics handle Catholics, Protestants deal with Protestants, Baptists with Baptists. In fact that simplifies things.

If every Baptist church in this nation that disagreed with the Westboro Baptist Church got up and voiced their disapproval of that organization's actions, and declared them not followers of Christ, then the nation would believe that and respect that, and as such WBC would lose all of its Christian affiliation. This would accomplish two things (1) it would strip WBC of their power, and (2) it would show the world that other Baptist churches don't believe the same things WBC does.

secondly, you do not want there to be an universal church upon which others can make demands, because that will eat us all alive. last time we had one coordinated religion, inflicted by force of arms, it was hell on earth. shudder. you don't want to wish that on anybody, even those you disagree with otherwise.

My wish is the disbandment of all large churches, not religions (I don't mind the diversity), but of the churches, as mass organizations commanded by a few. Remember, I'm not anti-religion or an atheist. I actually like the idea that many different peoples believe many different things. I just don't like people allowing their beliefs to be dictated by a few that would twist those ideals into something malicious.

It's just a cycle.

People have a need to tell their selves stories. That's what culture is all about. The best stories get ingrained as beliefs, which get reinforced with rituals, rules, and mores.

Even the atheists, agnostics, and and new agers have their stories they like to tell their selves. There is no god, we can't know of a god, all is one.

Meh, I see the stories, and chew one each flavor for funzies as it best suites my company. Now, to be entirely outside of the culture, that is pure insanity. I suggest long to medium durations of it, but try not to remain in this state. You'll likely end up with no friends, or with your head chopped off.

So the problem isn't really a problem, per se, it's more of a transition towards... well we haven't yet written that story yet.

You see, usually societies go in somewhat regular cycles, birth, growth, collapse... but this time there are no boundaries. No new lands to conquer, filled with new resources to discover and use up. This time we can communicate on any two points of the earth within a second. So ideas are being slung around faster than ever.

I look at this as a new tower of babel. The one language we're speaking in google, and the google gods like to confuse us, so the sharing of our different stories (culture) is what's causing us all to babble around and flip out.

In the process of having so many damned variations of the same types of stories (religion), people yap, and yap, and it leads to one of a few scenarios:

1. The emerging global culture via the internet brings the youth together in a borderless awareness, while the old die out. Within a generation this transition is complete and the species pusher closer to a type 1 civilization.

2. Collapse. People can't take all these ideas and spreading of information. We were too idealistic and naive, and didn't realize what our attempts to infect other countries with these outside ideas would lead to in reality. Instead of uniting globally, we first collapse the estates, and regroup as religious & ethnic factions which battle each other for the remaining resources.

3. Hybrid model. We don't come together towards global governance. Instead, we decentralize, and keep a very thin infrastructure and standards globally to allow for efficient and effective means of transportation and communication. There are now millions of small communities which each have their own stories to operate from. You can pick your colony of choice and be transported to be integrated.

4. You're an idiot. I don't know what I'm talking about, but am just rambling. Thanks for allowing me to entertain my ruminations on the subject, however off topic this ended up being.

I tried going to church once, a long time ago.

I was going through some rough times so decided to go with my best friend, who I actually couldn't stand at the time. I grew up with this guy, met him at school when I was about 10. Eventually he turned christian and stopped hanging out with me and became very arrogant and judgemental.

I was about 20 at the time this happened, my hair was long and both of my ears were pierced (I was, still am a fan of Marilyn Manson) Anyway, I decided to go with him and after church service was over he introduced me to the preacher. We talked for a second then all of a sudden he asked me why my ears were pierced, and then he had the audacity to ask me if I was "Queer" and everyone started laughing.

So I answered him kindly, although looking back at it now I wish I would have answered him with a kind punch to the mouth. After this he started questioning my hair, at which point I was ready to get the hell out of there. He started insinuating that it was wrong for me to be wearing my hair the way it was by quoting some moronic bible verse.

Finally, I guess he couldn't hold back his very mature thoughts. He broke down and told me that only Jesus could have long hair and it is a sin for me to emulate Christ. I started running, by the time this whacko was done I would have been bald from pulling all my hair out.

Beware of these people, they're not good, but evil. Especially southern baptists. 75% of these people are snobby hypocrites. Some of the worst kinds of sexual perverts come out of this church, these sadistical individuals become christians so they can justify their sick minds in some weird twisted way.

The TBN types are the worst, like Cre-Flo Dollar and that lady that looks like a scary version of barbie doll. Beware.

Thank God christianity is dying.

P.S. To the christians: Please don't try to justify what that retarded preacher said to me. I know there are 2 definitions of Queer, I don't care. This was 13 years ago.

Originally posted by faust833
I tried going to church once, a long time ago.

I was going through some rough times so decided to go with my best friend, who I actually couldn't stand at the time. I grew up with this guy, met him at school when I was about 10. Eventually he turned christian and stopped hanging out with me and became very arrogant and judgemental.

I was about 20 at the time this happened, my hair was long and both of my ears were pierced (I was, still am a fan of Marilyn Manson) Anyway, I decided to go with him and after church service was over he introduced me to the preacher. We talked for a second then all of a sudden he asked me why my ears were pierced, and then he had the audacity to ask me if I was "Queer" and everyone started laughing.

So I answered him kindly, although looking back at it now I wish I would have answered him with a kind punch to the mouth. After this he started questioning my hair, at which point I was ready to get the hell out of there. He started insinuating that it was wrong for me to be wearing my hair the way it was by quoting some moronic bible verse.

Finally, I guess he couldn't hold back his very mature thoughts. He broke down and told me that only Jesus could have long hair and it is a sin for me to emulate Christ. I started running, by the time this whacko was done I would have been bald from pulling all my hair out.

Beware of these people, they're not good, but evil. Especially southern baptists. 75% of these people are snobby hypocrites. Some of the worst kinds of sexual perverts come out of this church, these sadistical individuals become christians so they can justify their sick minds in some weird twisted way.

The TBN types are the worst, like Cre-Flo Dollar and that lady that looks like a scary version of barbie doll. Beware.

Thank God christianity is dying.

P.S. To the christians: Please don't try to justify what that retarded preacher said to me. I know there are 2 definitions of Queer, I don't care. This was 13 years ago.

Marilyn Manson tells his fans to cut themselves, to commit suicide and to kill Christians. His lyrics drip hatred and bloodshed and sodomy. And yet, a preacher querying why it is you pierce yourself and wear your hair long offended you. Have you never given thought as to WHY you do those things? Have you never given thought to the honest answer to his questions? If you were honest, you'd have to conclude that the self confessing satanist put on this planet to destroy Christ (his words), told you to do those things. There, I've done what you should have done. And like your friend, you would have run as fast as possible from evil. Instead, the gospel preached by marilyn Manson wins in your life. He does exactly what he says he's on this planet for - to destroy Christ and those who follow him.
How do you get a population to reject any attempt at correcting their chosen path? You teach them to love evil as good. The natural response then is to reject good as evil. You get a population to be hypocrites in demanding that the very words which are designed to convict them of sin are labeled judgemental, whilst not recognising that they themselves have already judged evils to be good. Everytime a person supports the right to kill babies through abortion for example, they have already judged the practice to be acceptable. The fact is, Marilyn Manson has sung his gospel into your mind. The fact that someone QUESTIONING you as to WHY you do what you do was lost on you because that wicked gospel fills your mind.

Christianity isn't dying, it's morphing into the rising religion as given in this OP's thread. "Love, light, Jesus, oneness" are the buzz words captivating hundreds of millions. And they love it because it keeps them from experiencing chastisement - His grace teaching them to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts. Marilyn Manson is a destroyer too and tragically, the fact that they both profess to be destroyers goes over your head. Destroyers, destroy.

People tattoo themselves because the media tells them that it's cool and they see their idol do it. People murder babies because the media told them it was ok. Kids cut themselves because types like Marilyn Manson tell them too and does it onstage in front of them. Kids commit suicide because Marilyn Manson tells them too. Kids seethe against Christians because types like Matilyn Manson tell them to. Kids lash out at anyone who doesn't accept these types of behaviours that people like Marilym Manson says are acceptable.

You stated it - the preacher asked you why you did what you do. There is your answer. Someone came along and told you to by simply upholding all of those things as cool. Can you not see how the herd is rushing headlong into oblivion, nearly all thinking that they are doing "good"? And it's "good" as defined by self-professed destroyers?

Originally posted by WhoKnows100

You stated it - the preacher asked you why you did what you do. There is your answer. Someone came along and told you to by simply upholding all of those things as cool. Can you not see how the herd is rushing headlong into oblivion, nearly all thinking that they are doing "good"? And it's "good" as defined by self-professed destroyers?

You make some good points, but the opportunity to reach out to this hurting young man was lost on this disciple of Christ. Where was the love? All I hear is a judgmental attitude. Do you really think Jesus gives a crap if you have pierced ears or long hair or holes in your jeans? Of course he doesn't but so many Christians care more about the places of honor and looking good and fitting in that they don't even see the hurting souls.

I was raised Catholic. I was reached out to at a very high point in my life, one month before graduating from college. This woman who invited me to her spirit filled Lutheran church could have been a Mormon or Unity, but the love I felt from that congregation ministered to me. She then gave me 2 bibles, one and open study bible and the other an NIV study bible and a book called, "Lessons from a sheep dog" by Phillip Keller. I did not know that book would forever change my life. I still get tears in my eyes as I go back to those memories. They were not a perfect church, but by God, they loved those who came there. That to me is the sign of a disciple of Christ. By the love you show one to another, they will know you are my disciples, he said.

Here is a video that I think sums it up



There is a remnant gathering and it is not in church buildings. We meet in off chance and our spirits recognize one another. I cannot explain it, but I know when I meet one of the remnant. You will not find me in this den of vipers.

This topic has haunted me for years now, I mean literally haunted me! I am so horribly divided on what to believe, it has to be the most perplexing thing I have ever come across. On one hand I too used to fall for all the new age deception, and had bought into all of it's creed's so deeply, that I was blinded to the agenda behind essentially the entire machine. Through diligent research, prayer, networking with other "seekers" I came to realize that people like Alice Bailey, Aleister Crowley, Helena Blavatsky, Benjamin Crème, Barbara Marx Hubbard, even the director behind Zeitgeist! Were all advocating a very satanic creed, based on complete deception. It was unreal, once I starting seeing the patterns emerged, they all had slightly different versions of who the "God" of the bible was, all had slightly different utopian visions for the new age, but the one thing they had in common is they truly hated everything to do with Christianity, and actually looked at it as a plague on people. I found it very suspicious, that they had no problem accepting other forms of other spiritual movements and philosophies but all of them would become seriously offended by Christianity.
The plot got even stranger, once I started connecting the dots between Aleister Crowley's famous quote, "Do what thou wilt" and the new age explosion with the release of the book "the secret" that essentially says you are your own God, you create your own reality, you can do whatever you want essentially.
Now while I believe in free will, there's a fine line and a serious danger in believing you are your own God who is liable to nobody and nothing for your actions. And If we really were all our own God's , howcome we are so limited within this 5 sense reality? How come we cant cure cancer overnight? Or prevent a war from breaking out?
the scariest part of all though, is biblical prophecy and how it's predicted that a lot of this would happen. It talks about how in the end times there will be "false prophets who claim to be the messiah" It talks about how they're will be rising tensions between nations. And how the Anti-Christ will come and deceive most of the world, claiming to be the messiah who can cure all the world's woes.
Now If you look at the New age movement, there is an eery parallel with Hitler's idea for an "Aryan Race" . Both have had messiah type figures ( Guru's, Hitler) who were so manipulative and spoke with such charisma, they have been able to put people into almost hypnotic trance like states where they cease to be free, independent thinkers and instead are blinded by the massive amounts of energy and deception being heaved their way. The Nazi's were ruthless are we all know, and their horror show was not just limited to the Jews, they eliminated homosexuals, many of those with disabilities, essentially anyone they didn't deem fit for their standards of what a perfect race should look like.
Now the new age movement, may look harmless and seemingly be all about personal enlightenment but when you really think about it, for the most part it's aim is for you to "become enlightened", "shine" "connect with the inner you", "manifest your own reality" etc.. the problem is , it is all exclusively a focus on, "ME" Whereas true spirituality incorporates healing on oneself but never once loses sight of grace, compassion and a realization we are all a part of divine creation, and are perfect just the way we are. We don't need to look a certain way, act a certain way, conform to a certain style, project ourselves in a certain way. So many people become so driven by this need for perfection, so obsessed with finding enlightenment and getting in touch with a spiritual center, that they forget that God al ready loves them just they way he has created them.
It's dangerous because In the end times, the bible says the world will be forced to take the "mark of the beast" ( what exactly this means, is widely open for speculation) But If you look around at all the FEMA camps being built in America, If you've been focusing on the heightened race wars being invoked by the media, the rising tensions between the Arab World and the United States and Israel. One would get the sense that something explosive could happen, and that would set the grounds for the anti-Christ to return and promise peace for the people. The same way the New age is promising peace. The only problem is though, this peace is a deception, and there will more than likely be massive genocide of those who are scapegoated. Now just because I believe in the bible, I am not naïve, nor do I carry a "holier than though" attitude to me. To be brutally honest, I'm passionately seeker, and many nights I even question whether the bible has been tampered with, or whether the Zionists have orchestrated things within there. It won't surprise me if Muslim, Christians, Jews, and Atheists etc.. all are persecuted

Simply because they will be scapegoated, and those who are following this "messiah" type figure who is attempting to lead a one world government who will have deceived a stunning majority into a state of hysteria will have no problem carrying out orders to eliminate certain races, religions because they will be so blinded as to believe that they were "terrorists, threats" etc.. some may due it out of complete fear for their lives and the lives of their family.
If you think that is far fetched, just ask yourself this. Do you really think all of those who lost family members, friends, and their fellow Americans on September 11th in the world trade centers and pentagon were rational and in a right state of mind when the news constantly bombarded them of images of the "supposed" Terrorists who commited those atrocities? When you are experiencing a complete nightmare, it is human nature to be in shock, eventually that shock will give way to intense anger/bitterness or intense sadness. And before all of this 9/11 corruption became exposed, many of us never could fathom the mainstream media could be owned and completely controlled like puppets to usher out brainwashing hate filled messages to deliberately target a race to start brewing tensions. People who found themselves just "much more" irritable, and potentially hostile in line at the movies when they saw 2 men with a turban conversing in front of them, would truly realize if they were honest with themselves, it's because subconsciously they were carrying a lot of resentment, uncertainty, paranoia, potentially even rage because they were being conditioned to hate all who adhered to Islam, even though in their rational minds, in their conscious they knew it was wrong, they were blinded by lie after lie after lie.
Similar things happened when Hitler scapegoated the Jews, so many just went along with it, because Hitler spoke with such conviction, confidence and had a knack for erupting massive emotions of of vulnerable people, who were easy preys for cleverly crafted lies.
This is what is happening with the new age movement. It is praying upon people left, right and center. Now I am no saints, And like I've said earlier, even though I'm exploring the bible and Christianity pretty deeply. I am still taking everything with a grain of salt, because it seems almost as if everything has become compromised/altered in this day we live in. It is growing increasingly more difficult to trust any religious movement, sadly enough because most have impure motives behind them. The Illuminati no doubt, has it's hand in mega church movements, among countless amounts of other religious movements. It seems like we're getting to a point where all we have left is eachother, and a connection to something very powerful and loving in this universe, that for some strange reason has remained very quiet amidst the chaos we see current day ( maybe this is for a reason- to allow human beings to bond with eachother, and faithfully, patiently await, and fight for freedom in hopes of a better day for mankind

If you still believe a lot of these new agers are not very mentally ill, or just downright satanic please listen to some of these quotes. Some times Fact is stranger than fiction.

We are. We are in charge of God’s selection process for planet Earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death. We come to bring death to those who are unable to know God…The riders of the pale horse are about to pass among you. Grim reapers, they will separate the wheat from the chaff. This is the most painful period in the history of humanity…”
- Barbara Marx Hubbard: ( a seemingly pleasant old lady)


"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." - David Spangler

This is messed up!

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Originally posted by freedom7
This topic has haunted me for years now, I mean literally haunted me! ..., it has to be the most perplexing thing I have ever come across. On one hand I too used to fall for all the new age deception, and had bought into all of it's creed's so deeply, that I was blinded to the agenda behind essentially the entire machine. ...
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I came to realize that people like Alice Bailey, Aleister Crowley, Helena Blavatsky, Benjamin Crème, Barbara Marx Hubbard, even the director behind Zeitgeist! Were all advocating a very satanic creed, based on complete deception. It was unreal, once I starting seeing the patterns emerged, they all had slightly different versions of who the "God" of the bible was, all had slightly different utopian visions for the new age, but the one thing they had in common is they truly hated everything to do with Christianity, and actually looked at it as a plague on people. I found it very suspicious, that they had no problem accepting other forms of other spiritual movements and philosophies but all of them would become seriously offended by Christianity.
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The plot got even stranger, once I started connecting the dots between Aleister Crowley's famous quote, "Do what thou wilt" and the new age explosion with the release of the book "the secret" that essentially says you are your own God, you create your own reality, you can do whatever you want essentially.
.

Now while I believe in free will, there's a fine line and a serious danger in believing you are your own God who is liable to nobody and nothing for your actions. And If we really were all our own God's , how come we are so limited within this 5 sense reality? How come we cant cure cancer overnight? Or prevent a war from breaking out?
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the scariest part of all though, is biblical prophecy and how it's predicted that a lot of this would happen. It talks about how in the end times there will be "false prophets who claim to be the messiah" It talks about how they're will be rising tensions between nations. And how the Anti-Christ will come and deceive most of the world, claiming to be the messiah who can cure all the world's woes.
.

Now If you look at the New age movement, there is an eery parallel with Hitler's idea for an "Aryan Race" . Both have had messiah type figures ( Guru's, Hitler) who were so manipulative and spoke with such charisma, they have been able to put people into almost hypnotic trance like states where they cease to be free, independent thinkers and instead are blinded by the massive amounts of energy and deception being heaved their way.
.

The Nazi's were ruthless are we all know, and their horror show was not just limited to the Jews, they eliminated homosexuals, many of those with disabilities, essentially anyone they didn't deem fit for their standards of what a perfect race should look like.
.

Now the new age movement, may look harmless and seemingly be all about personal enlightenment but when you really think about it, for the most part it's aim is for you to "become enlightened", "shine" "connect with the inner you", "manifest your own reality" etc.. the problem is , it is all exclusively a focus on, "ME" Whereas true spirituality incorporates healing on oneself but never once loses sight of grace, compassion and a realization we are all a part of divine creation, and are perfect just the way we are. We don't need to look a certain way, act a certain way, conform to a certain style, project ourselves in a certain way. So many people become so driven by this need for perfection, so obsessed with finding enlightenment and getting in touch with a spiritual center, that they forget that God already loves them just they way he has created them.
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It's dangerous because In the end times, the bible says the world will be forced to take the "mark of the beast" ( what exactly this means, is widely open for speculation) But If you look around at all the FEMA camps being built in America, If you've been focusing on the heightened race wars being invoked by the media, the rising tensions between the Arab World and the United States and Israel. One would get the sense that something explosive could happen, and that would set the grounds for the anti-Christ to return and promise peace for the people.
.

The same way the New age is promising peace. The only problem is though, this peace is a deception, and there will more than likely be massive genocide of those who are scapegoated. Now just because I believe in the bible, I am not naïve, nor do I carry a "holier than though" attitude to me. To be brutally honest, I'm passionately seeker, and many nights I even question whether the bible has been tampered with, or whether the Zionists have orchestrated things within there. It won't surprise me if Muslim, Christians, Jews, and Atheist

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Originally posted by freedom7
Simply because they will be scapegoated, and those who are following this "messiah" type figure who is attempting to lead a one world government who will have deceived a stunning majority into a state of hysteria will have no problem carrying out orders to eliminate certain races, religions because they will be so blinded as to believe that they were "terrorists, threats" etc.. some may due it out of complete fear for their lives and the lives of their family.
.

If you think that is far fetched, just ask yourself this. Do you really think all of those who lost family members, friends, and their fellow Americans on September 11th in the world trade centers and pentagon were rational and in a right state of mind when the news constantly bombarded them of images of the "supposed" Terrorists who commited those atrocities?
.

When you are experiencing a complete nightmare, it is human nature to be in shock, eventually that shock will give way to intense anger/bitterness or intense sadness. And before all of this 9/11 corruption became exposed, many of us never could fathom the mainstream media could be owned and completely controlled like puppets to usher out brainwashing hate filled messages to deliberately target a race to start brewing tensions.
.

People who found themselves just "much more" irritable, and potentially hostile in line at the movies when they saw 2 men with a turban conversing in front of them, would truly realize if they were honest with themselves, it's because subconsciously they were carrying a lot of resentment, uncertainty, paranoia, potentially even rage because they were being conditioned to hate all who adhered to Islam, even though in their rational minds, in their conscious they knew it was wrong, they were blinded by lie after lie after lie.
.

Similar things happened when Hitler scapegoated the Jews, so many just went along with it, because Hitler spoke with such conviction, confidence and had a knack for erupting massive emotions of of vulnerable people, who were easy preys for cleverly crafted lies.
.

This is what is happening with the new age movement. It is praying upon people left, right and center. Now I am no saints, And like I've said earlier, even though I'm exploring the bible and Christianity pretty deeply. I am still taking everything with a grain of salt, because it seems almost as if everything has become compromised/altered in this day we live in. It is growing increasingly more difficult to trust any religious movement, sadly enough because most have impure motives behind them.
.

The Illuminati no doubt, has it's hand in mega church movements, among countless amounts of other religious movements. It seems like we're getting to a point where all we have left is eachother, and a connection to something very powerful and loving in this universe, that for some strange reason has remained very quiet amidst the chaos we see current day ( maybe this is for a reason- to allow human beings to bond with eachother, and faithfully, patiently await, and fight for freedom in hopes of a better day for mankind

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Bo Xian- what do you think after reading that? Am I hitting on some topics that are true? What's your take on all of this?

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I FELT AND FEEL that you made many correct observations that are congruent with how I construe and experience reality.

I need to re-read it later today after I've had a lot more sleep before I feel up to commenting very substantively.

I was quite impressed with your candor and the long trek you have made from evidently a high level of confusion to a very EXPERIENTIALLY BASED foundational sorting of the evidence and arriving at some real solid insights and understandings.

I pray that you don't allow so many still wandering, self-obsessed, hedonistic, rebellious etc. sorts on ATS to undermine your hard won understandings and perspectives.

You have been through the mill of sorting through deceptions, distortions and confusions. No need to go back to such muck to any degree, imho.

I think your insights can be of great value as Holy Spirit uses them to wake some others up--those who may still have some shreds of fair-mindedness left sufficiently to more objectively sort through the evidence.

CONGRATS to you for that and to Holy Spirit who has clearly led you through many a wilderness and desert to arrive at some water of truth and understanding.

Sometimes we just have to say . . . to ourselves, to the enemy and to others . . .

I KNOW BECAUSE I KNOW BECAUSE I KNOW. I know it now in my bone marrow and all the fallen angels and demons in hell cannot dislodge my convictions founded on THE ROCK.

May He bless you abundantly.

Heading back to bed shortly. Thanks for the honor of your query.

I trust you understood by my reformatting--most folks simply will not read a wall of text. Our eyes--particularly older eyes like mine--MUCH NEED the micro-rests afforded by the white space between 5-7 lines per paragraph.